looking forward to this device. i don't mind that it runs the iphone os, as long as all my apps work with it!
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Suspect you've closed your mind. But, you can't curl up with a laptop, perhaps you can, I can't. Which laptop do you have that has touch and can run all of those apps? Which laptop do you have that has the Pixel Qi screen for eReading? I'm really ready to follow you, I'm not a leader, perhaps you are.
People, if the tablet doesn't seem like it's going to be useful for you, you are not the intended market for it. You don't have to buy it. You can get the macbook instead. It's not going to replace it.
There are people with desktops only (or even if they have iPhones) who'll want the tablet to carry with them around the house to do stuff. Imagine eating breakfast and you want to read the news or a book, you can take the tablet down to the kitchen and eat there. Or if you're cooking and you want to check emails or whatever social networking you want to do. What about staying outside or in the balcony to enjoy the sunny weather? How about working on the car in the garage and you need to figure out how to fix something, you can just use the tablet instead of going up to your room to check on the internet.
Now, you can say that iphone can do all of those, yes on a 3" screen. But not everybody have an iphone and yes while they can get iPod Touch, they might not want the 3" screen as it might be too small for them. 10" might be perfect size for all people including elderly.
There are people with desktops only (or even if they have iPhones) who'll want the tablet to carry with them around the house to do stuff. Imagine eating breakfast and you want to read the news or a book, you can take the tablet down to the kitchen and eat there. Or if you're cooking and you want to check emails or whatever social networking you want to do. What about staying outside or in the balcony to enjoy the sunny weather? How about working on the car in the garage and you need to figure out how to fix something, you can just use the tablet instead of going up to your room to check on the internet.
Now, you can say that iphone can do all of those, yes on a 3" screen. But not everybody have an iphone and yes while they can get iPod Touch, they might not want the 3" screen as it might be too small for them. 10" might be perfect size for all people including elderly.
Think you've stated it appropriately. We, including me, tend to be too technical. This is a device for the masses whom are captured in your post. Thanks ...
I don't need a laptop that can have a touch screen. I type 84 words per minute. How many can you write?
Look, this product will appeal to some people. I have a macbook, it suits all these needs just find. This is going to be a color kindle with a really nice screen or a big iphone. If you like it, go buy it.
I'm just surprised that people are SHOCKED that it's just a big iphone. That's all it was ever meant to be.
I'm SHOCKED that you know what the product actually is, you impress me.
Let me be fair. I want to be able to annotate, it's not speed it's convenience. I hold the device with one hand and write with the other, it's really meant for thoughts, not speed. I do agree you can type faster, but I just want to take notes while concentrating on the speaker or reading, whatever. There are multiple ways of providing input, I want them all.
What I'm slightly annoyed about is that people are making so many different opinions, ideas, decisions, and assumptions on a product that they haven't seen.
Just...wait....till...it...is...out, that's all people have to do.
The other point is that even though a laptop can do everything the tablet can (assuming that's true), eventually people get to the point where it's time to consider buying a new laptop, and if the tablet does everything they need - but cheaper and in a more intuitive and user-friendly way - they'll likely buy the tablet.
Don't worry, I won't be here to rain on your parade while you guys are gushing and crying about how Jobs is the second coming of Jesus and the iSlate is the most amazing device, how he's the only one who could have possibly thought of it and how Apple is the most amazing company known to man, my god it's like they're a part of you, and all you can do is try to keep your trembling hands steady enough for a few line drawings in iPaint and musings in iScrawl.
Well, maybe I will.
Except it's running the iPhone version of OSX. When Logic gets ported to it I'll think about it. Here are some things that it would take to impress me:
1) Completely waterproof.
2) You can turn the power off, and the next 50 or so pages are stored in a capacitor and can be read.
3) Battery life of over 20 hours with full usage.
Don't worry, I won't be here to rain on your parade while you guys are gushing and crying about how Jobs is the second coming of Jesus and the iSlate is the most amazing device, how he's the only one who could have possibly thought of it and how Apple is the most amazing company known to man, my god it's like they're a part of you, and all you can do is try to keep your trembling hands steady enough for a few line drawings in iPaint and musings in iScrawl.
Well, maybe I will.
Except it's running the iPhone version of OSX. When Logic gets ported to it I'll think about it. Here are some things that it would take to impress me:
1) Completely waterproof.
2) You can turn the power off, and the next 50 or so pages are stored in a capacitor and can be read.
3) Battery life of over 20 hours with full usage.
Okay, you no longer impress me. You seem to be too impressed with the mirror. I, I, I, me, me, me.
That's if the tablet is a laptop competitor. As of right now, most believe that it can't even connect to a USB drive. How can you backup your tablet if that's the case?
In order for it to replace a laptop, it has to replace its most basic duties. Right now a $300 netbook can do all of this and more. Multitouch may be more fun and intuitive but you're asking them to spend extra in a slowly recovering economy.
We don't know what's coming and I hope that Apple introduces something truly revolutionary.
Like it or not there are a tremendous number of people who don't back up their stuff and don't want to. If a tablet stores data in the cloud or "syncs" like an ipod, they're thrilled with that. The tablet may not be for you, but it's for a lot of other people. It doesn't have to do all the things a netbook can - it only has to do all the things a large number of people need it to do. As a business traveller I can tell you that even a simple tablet with Apple's attention to detail is incredibly relevant - the ability to view and lightly annotate business docs (office formats and pdf), send and receive email, maybe show powerpoint/keynote presentations, maybe video conference, surf the web, with ipod media functions, all in a package that's no bigger and no heavier than it needs to be, is incredibly compelling to someone who spends a lot of time on planes and in hotel rooms. Yeah, I can do that with a laptop, but why carry weight to support things I don't need (keyboard, optical drive, fans, bigger batteries to support x86, etc.)
But where's is it syncing to in the cloud? Apple has just started hiring to move iWork into the cloud. They currently have no music, TV and movie subscriptions in place. The latter two will take years just for a US deal. If it still syncs to your computer, then on the road you have nothing if you have to restore. Apple currently stores no info of the app you have to easily restore. You either have to guess, take a screenshot or keep all the receipts of all the apps you purchased. You are asking Apple to think of all of this on a 1.0 product that is based on the iPhone OS.
Let's say that the tablet weighs around 2 lbs.. Is it really going to break your back to carry 3 extra lbs.for a MBP? You've been getting along so far and if weight was that much of an issue you could get an MBA which would be 1lbs. more. Chances are very likely that both machines will give you far more power and the full potential of OSX.
This product is compelling and I believe it is the future of Apple hardware. As of 1.0, there will be many questions about this product and the future of a locked-in platform model . At the very least many need it to be able to restore on the road for not only tablet but potentially the iPhone as well. While iWork is nice I can assure you a third party like Dataviz would take its place if Apple didn't make iWork "Touch".
I think your dead on...
a Slate is for two kinds of people, those who needs don't need the power that even a basic laptop has these days and those for who the most powerful laptop doesn't have enough grunt but would still like something portable for the things they do out side of that (image/video/sound) rendering engine that always wants more power.
iDisk. Google Apps. Etc.
See above, at least re: data. For music we have simplifymedia, and possibly even lala support since the web browser might be much more functional. And if I lose my music/movies on the road, oh well.
I don't understand what you are trying to say. Apple knows all the apps you've bought. If you try to buy them again from the phone, it tells you you already have bought it and asks if you want to re-download. Are you trying to say something different?
Yes. When I was a boy I didn't have to wear seatbelts, and somehow I got by. My grandparents didn't have computers, and they got by. Just because things work doesn't mean you stop trying to get things to work better.
Heck, when I carry my laptop on the road I *never* bother to pull it out of its bag while sitting on a plane. I keep my bag up in the bin. A nice light tablet that fits in the seatback pocket and easily on my tray would be plenty sweet.
It'll just sync via iTunes. The software is there, all Apple has to do is update iTunes and it'll be just like iPhone sync.
Tablets or more specifically slates are not laptop replacements. It's a third form of computing. Desktops, laptops and slates can co-exist just like tablets has been co-existing for the past few decades. People with desktops can get slates instead of laptops if they choose.
People please fix this wrong idea in your heads, tablets/slates are not laptop or netbook replacements.
That isn't fair. C'mon, tell us what features would impress you. Is there any potentially missing feature that would disappoint you?
Not this...
But if you can do all those things, and more, for a laptop or netbook that costs hundreds less, why would you buy a tablet?
But if you can do all those things, and more, for a laptop or netbook that costs hundreds less, why would you buy a tablet?
Who says that you won't be able to get Photoshop for the iSlate?
The iPhone OS and the Mac OS are both OS-X, just with different User interfaces on top. It is the (lack of) power of the CPU and GPU that will limit what you can realistically do with the iSlate, not the OS.
What do you do with this "third form of computing?"
What can you do with this "third form of computing" that you can't do with the devices you already have?
That's the mystery. We all agree that it doesn't replace a notebook or a desktop or a phone or a netbook. What things does it do better than all those other devices.... so much better that millions of people will step up to buy?
What can you do with this "third form of computing" that you can't do with the devices you already have?
That's the mystery. We all agree that it doesn't replace a notebook or a desktop or a phone or a netbook. What things does it do better than all those other devices.... so much better that millions of people will step up to buy?
Why buy 1500$ laptop when people can do the same thing on a netbook for 300$?
Hell, why buy Macbook Air when you can get macbook 500$ cheaper? Why buy 13" MBP when you can get plastic white macbook for 300-400$ cheaper?
They all have pros and cons.
Slates are more comfortable than laptop or netbooks if people just want to consume data in living room watching tv, reading book on the tablet in bed or any other situation where laptops are too heavy and netbook is just too small/keyboard not needed/whatever.
No chance this thing supports carbon, and it certainly won't be x86. At a minimum a recompile, and more likely a complete re-write of apps like photoshop.
Absolutely nothing that can be done on slates that can't be done on any other forms. It's how you use the computer that differs.
1) Why have a desktop when your laptop can do the same thing? Expandability and upgradability. People want to game and only desktop can offer upgradable GPUs that's much faster. More Ram, pop it in. More hard drive, pop it in. More anything, pop it in.
2) Why buy laptops when you can do everything on desktops for cheaper too? People want mobility, to bring their computer to work or other places.
3) Why buy netbooks when laptops can do the same thing? People want simple, cheap and very light computers that they can carry around and do basic stuff with and not have to worry about paying more if the netbook breaks.
4) Why buy tablets when netbooks can do the same thing for much cheaper price? Good question and that all depends on how the slate is designed. We have to wait till the thing is out first before i can tell you. If it is just iPod touch that's big, then pretty much the following..
A)How about taking notes or drawing diagrams which is hard to do on laptops or netbooks?
B)Some people want full screen applications that's optimized to the fullest with multi-touch technology that can be bought and downloaded from a single source. For example, web browsers in full screen mode still takes up too much room that waste estate and require more mouse movement due to limited resolution. There are no central source of applications on Mac/Windows. (Linux have repos but dependences is the main issue). As for multitouch, the ability to use your hand to move stuff, interact can be much more natural than with a mouse with optimized softwares.
C) With no keyboard, it might be easier to read books, especially magazine with full colors on a slate than it is with netbook/laptop. People can get e-ink reader but why when this can be much more functional if it is less than 1000$. 9" Kindle goes for 500$ and people still buy those.
D) How about the ability to get Push notifications on the tablet via Wifi?
E) How about no messing with antivirus/firewall/drivers (yea i had to install drivers for netbooks, w7 isn't perfect) or any of that sort since the Apple slate will just work straight out of the box?
Touch will not replace the keyboard especially for writing anything longer than a quick email. However, some people might be better off with an iMac at home and an iSlate to carry around, instead of a laptop.
The iSlate is going to be more portable than a laptop; smaller, lighter and much easier to slip into a bag to take with you. It really depends how much typing you do whilst away from your desk. Some people absolutely need a full laptop, whilst others don't and could easily get away with a tablet.