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Please fix laptop display sizes while you’re at it. MBA, 13” and 14.5” … MBP, 14.5” and 16.2”. And fix MBA port variety problem (full interoperability with MBP in all situations, just give MBP three or four Thunderbolt 5 as its distinction) and don’t make MBP thinner, make it a powerhouse with power cooling, the more airflow the better, along with that full capacity battery. There’s no need to go thinner, MBA covers thin and both should be a distinct dramatically different in thickness to help clarify the thin vs power customer communication.

Do you want portability or do you want power? That should be the single question Apple staff asks the customer. MBA doesn’t need to be gimped, MBP just needs full commitment to its pro-ness. Further, get rid of any MBP model without at least a “Pro” chip.

MBA, M6
MBP, M6 Pro / M6 Ultra
I would love a14.5 pro. Just a teeny bit more space without going 16 would be nice.
 
As someone with a Tandem OLED iPad pro, burn in does not exist. This will be the same when it comes to Macs.

Even the OLED iPhone and Apple Watch does not have burn in.
You having not experienced it so far, is not the same thing as it not existing, especially as an iPad is usually used rather differently than a Mac. Oh, and one of my best friends literally has an iPhone with burn-in.
 
My M4 MBP spends about 90% of its life connected to an external monitor, so I'm less interested in an OLED panel than I am to see what else comes with the full redesign.
 
last week stayed at friends who have a 5 year old LG OLED 65" tv.
looks great.

then i noticed the centre had this weird effect: skin tones were grey.

i pointed it out to the owners who hadnt noticed.
once you see it you can't unsee it.

it was one month within warranty and i did a quick Google.
apparently there are known issues where content with head shots in the centre wear out the red pixels.

a few years ago they changed the panels with larger red pixels to combat this wear.

he's put in a warranty claim and waiting to hear the outcome...
 
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I would love a14.5 pro. Just a teeny bit more space without going 16 would be nice.
100%. "Pro" branded Mac laptops with power should start mid-sized. In the modern era 13.6" is not mid-sized it's on the small side. At near an inch larger 14.5" would be a welcome display upgrade for the pro line. Besides, bezels are getting narrower, further reducing device footprint. Should the customer want smaller or thinner they would have two great MBA models to pick from: 14.5" (mid and thin) and 13" (small and thin).
 
Ugh, I really don't want an OLED Mac, burn-in is still an issue (I have a TV that's painfully a good example of this).
Yeah, not a day goes by without some article about how bad burn-in is on Windows OLED laptops! /s
To be honest, with the screen care features built into Windows OLED panels, any burn-in that might occur is minimized or eliminated. I don't really get it when people (who don't even have an OLED laptop) complain about burn-in on laptops. I don't really see anyone complaining about burn-in on laptops and many come with 3 year burn-in warranties.

But, sure...Apple will give you a better OLED for >$2000 for a base MacBook Pro, while Windows OLED laptops are now easily had for $600.
 
Pros doesnt have oled either...maybe Apple will make you an Macbook Air with mini-led and promotion when they move to tandem oled into the Macbook Pro
That would make all the sense in the world, but since Apple didn’t do that with the iPads, I’m guessing they won’t with the MacBooks either.
 
You having not experienced it so far, is not the same thing as it not existing, especially as an iPad is usually used rather differently than a Mac. Oh, and one of my best friends literally has an iPhone with burn-in.
Tell your friend they are using it wrong. :D
 
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As someone with a Tandem OLED iPad pro, burn in does not exist. This will be the same when it comes to Macs.

Has anyone done long-term burn-in tests of these displays like the way rtings.com has done for TV? Seems like there's only been 1 year of experience with the Tandem OLED iPad Pro.

Even the OLED iPhone and Apple Watch does not have burn in.

Can't speak for the watch but I've seen it on OLED iPhones. And the usage profiles are different between iPhones and Macs. A Mac used for business persons seems far more likely to trigger burnin than typical use of an iPhone.

The question I have for OLED in a laptop is, can I leave it in Light Mode with my Menu Bar and Dock left on (i.e. not auto-hide), my favorite background, and desktop icons for 12 hours a day x 365 days for 10 years without burn-in, permanent wear, etc patterns? And/or is the screen going to use "screen shift" / "pixel orbitors" or will I be expected to run periodic screen washing/compensation patterns?
 
Yeah, not a day goes by without some article about how bad burn-in is on Windows OLED laptops! /s
To be honest, with the screen care features built into Windows OLED panels, any burn-in that might occur is minimized or eliminated. I don't really get it when people (who don't even have an OLED laptop) complain about burn-in on laptops. I don't really see anyone complaining about burn-in on laptops and many come with 3 year burn-in warranties.

The average Windows user may be less discriminating than the average Mac user. And/or they seem to replace their laptops more often. It wasn't that long ago that the corporation I worked for replaced all (Windows) laptops every 2 years.

However, I don't have an OLED laptop because I don't want to think or worry about burn-in. I don't want to have to remember proper "screen care".
 
It would be great to have this in earl 2026 with redesigned body. I was planning to delay my purchase this year because of redesign rumors of 2026 so this is good news for me.

And as far as thinness goes, I prefer power over weight. It would kill the "Pro" again if they make it like MBA, I remember 2017 thin MBP very vividly. The worst laptop I've ever owned.
 
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Oh nooo, they're focussing on thinness... this again 🙄

Seriously, if thinness comes at the cost of sustained performance and/or battery life (and it always does), then nobody cares about a MacBook Pro being thin. Those who want maximum portability get a MacBook Air. The Pro should be optimized for performance and nothing else.
 
Global market share of Windows vs macOS says you're wrong.

Global market share of Windows is driven by price (you can have much cheaper Windows computers than what Macs cost) and business use (almost all large corporations run on Windows), not because people like Windows better. Literally anyone I've ever met would prefer macOS if given the choice.
 
I dunno switching to OLED would be tjqt groundbreaking. Mini LED is great, and switching to OLED wouldnot result in thinner chassis.

Is there anything on MBP that would make it a must-upgrade? I think MBP as it stands right now is a near perfect laptop.

To me the only real difference it could make would be making it last 48 hours in one charge.
 
there is so much space on a laptop vs a phone i don’t understand why they thought it was a great solution to put the camera into the screen area. a pill shape cutout would be no better and still be a bit annoying. if for some reason you really, really needed to cut into the screen area, why not make the apple logo in the upper left a punchout and put the camera in there.
 
If Apple wants the Mac to be a serious gaming machine as Apple claims, you aren't going to get gamers to switch with that.
I think Apple would actually need games to make gamers switch and not a 5kHz refresh rate display when the games gamers want to play are not available.
As someone with a Tandem OLED iPad pro, burn in does not exist. This will be the same when it comes to Macs.

Even the OLED iPhone and Apple Watch does not have burn in.
They didn't get the memo: https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/apple-iphone-15-pro-max-displaying-oled-burn-in-issues

Think a moment about how OLED works on a physical and chemical level. The burn in process starts the second you turn on the display. From there, the only factor is time. When will it be noticeable to the human eye? And that in turn depends how the display is used.
 
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Oh nooo, they're focussing on thinness... this again 🙄

Seriously, if thinness comes at the cost of sustained performance and/or battery life (and it always does), then nobody cares about a MacBook Pro being thin. Those who want maximum portability get a MacBook Air. The Pro should be optimized for performance and nothing else.
I mean, true. But it's still a portable. If you want performance and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE....get a desktop. You're getting a laptop because you have to travel with it, or want to use it away from the desk occasionally. That means portability IS a factor, even if it's a secondary or tertiary concern. Personally I'd like to see a 20" MBP, but if they're staying with the 16" and maintain the same great performance and battery life while making the casing slightly thinner and lighter, that's a worthy goal.
 
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Disagreed. The screen sizes are fine. Make the MBP thinner and lighter. It's too damn heavy.
Or at least make some models thinner and lighter. The non-pro chip macbook pro would benefit as something closer to the Air with a better display and cooling, but maybe still leave the ones with Max chips with bigger batteries and the extra weight that comes with it. Not sure where the Pro chips would fall, but it wouldn’t be much different than the split between the Mac mini and Mac Studio where the bigger chips get the bigger case with more cooling and power.

Odds are they’ll make them as light as the lower battery consumption of the OLED panels and whichever M-series chip these get allows them to roughly match the current models’ battery life, rather than keeping a bigger but heavier battery that’d last longer.
 
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