Wake me when there is customization of news preference and not what Apple employees feels is news that’s force fed to us.
I paid for WSJ and Economist. Do you think that got rid of ads? Nope. Still tons of ads.
I would GLADLY pay for no ads and I often do on my iOS apps, here on Macrumors, etc... Just pisses me off to no end that I can pay $300/year for WSJ, Economist, NY Times, LA Times, etc... and STILL get ads on their website and this goes for most subscriptions today.![]()
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Ublock and ghostery for the pros. Ghostery is actually fantastic. What's alarming is just how much data mining is occurring when you visit websites and use apps.
I applaud Apple for not taking the google route and peddling anything goes advertising. Worse off is the total breach of our privacy.
Heck, has anyone ever noticed how you say stuff while Instagram is open and then ads appear regading that very product. They claim it's because their algorithms can predict your thoughts. Bull ----, it's because they are listening to us via the app.
Apple users are probably conditioned to pay for things and not click on ads. Of course Android and Windows as revenue is higher. Just make it so I can tap a button like on Medium with claps. 1 or 5 cents per clap or something
This is exactly right. Either ads and free, or ad-free with a subscription. Can't have it both ways. I apply this for nearly all media I consume. Netflix and HBO get my money because they are ad-free (internal promotion doesn't count). Same applies to written content: if I pay, that means I shouldn't see a single ad.
What an entitled point of view.
Wake me when there is customization of news preference and not what Apple employees feels is news that’s force fed to us.
Does anyone remember the internet in the late 90's to early 2000's? Remember when you were done Googling those three things you wanted to read about, and you had to click away dozens if not hundreds of popup windows that had manifested while you "surfed" the web?
The difference here is how ads are presented.
AppleNews:
1. Banner only
2. Hard to accidentally click
Direct website:
1. Higher quantity of ads
2. Full screen unavoidable ads
3. Scrolling ads
4. Cross site tracking
5. Auto play video ads
6. Deceiving layout to encourage accidental clicking on ads disguised as fake news articles
It’s not about the ads, it’s how they present them and force them upon the user as to why they aren’t making enough.
Vote with your wallet, block them until they get reasonable.
I agree but what I dislike is that the VPN gets turned off every 24 hours or so. Seems it’s just a problem of iOS in general from what I’ve read but the local DNS proxy is only good while it remains turned on.Just use Adblock, like 1BlockerX. Surf the websites ad-free. I’m sorry but banner ads are about all I can stand. The stupid rolling ads, and the full page ads are a nuisance. Vote with your wallet, block them until they get reasonable.
I agree but what I dislike is that the VPN gets turned off every 24 hours or so. Seems it’s just a problem of iOS in general from what I’ve read but the local DNS proxy is only good while it remains turned on.
I’ve been using AdBlock and as long as it is not shifting between WiFi and cellular it seems to stay on but gets flaky when switching connections.With AdGuard my vpn stays on all the time. There is an option to make it persistent or something like that (kinda hidden).
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I'd rather have some kind of micropayment system in place than have to endure ads. Sometimes I'll read an article that's well-researched, written, edited and photographed and frankly I'd be fine with some kind of easy way to pay a little for it, if it supported the people who made it. I get that adblockers exist, but I just don't see how any of this is a sustainable solution for funding good reporting.
Apple News would be an excellent platform for this. Show me a little preview of the article, then charge me some reasonable amount through Apple Pay to read it. But they seem all in on the Texture "all you can read" model and I wonder if the publishers are just going to get screwed even more...Google tried this. I beta tested it for about 4? months before they shut it down and released a public version that was so bad, it never really took off. https://contributor.google.com/v/beta I liked the idea. You could replace the google ads with pictures of anything or a "thank you" - with charts showing where your $ went to on a monthly basis. I thought it was so great.![]()
I take it you both work in media? Because that’s the ONLY person who willingly accepts badgering, nuisance, invasive and tracking advertisements. I guess you totally missed what I said. Let me try and make it easier for you to understand a second time. I said that I accept banner ads. I do not accept bandwidth heavy auto play videos, ads that force me to click off them, scrolling ads that impede my ability to read the article.
If that makes me entitled, so be it. Forbes and NYT paywall.. I just go elsewhere now. By forcing them to lose revenue on adblockers, they are learning what types of ads were are willing to accept.
Call me entitled, too.
Entitled? That’s like saying I’m “entitled” because I don’t want a guy with store flyers literally laying on the hood of my car and shoving them against the windshield when they could just be stuck to the bulletin board.
The difference here is how ads are presented.
AppleNews:
1. Banner only
2. Hard to accidentally click
Direct website:
1. Higher quantity of ads
2. Full screen unavoidable ads
3. Scrolling ads
4. Cross site tracking
5. Auto play video ads
6. Deceiving layout to encourage accidental clicking on ads disguised as fake news articles
It’s not about the ads, it’s how they present them and force them upon the user as to why they aren’t making enough.
You can see first-hand proof of this using the Opera browser. It shows you the time it takes to load a site with and w/o ads. There is a huge difference. Ad companies have brought this on themselves.