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From what I understand part of the development team wanted third-party native apps at launch, but Steve Jobs was opposed to it. After launch, Steve Jobs' opinion started to shift and I guess it was a sum of multiple factors, both internal and external, that ultimately tipped the balance and made him reconsider.
In Jobs's official bio, Art Levinson (on the board) claimed the sticking point for Jobs was the security of native apps. He didn't think Apple would be capable of policing bad apps on the platform. The App Store was the solution.
 
I represent myself being part of it, and the EU represents me and others as a whole. I don't see anyone else here representing it even in part while being against it.

Also, news already broke and I guess this article was merely used to identify leakers.
Well people can lay claim to different things. And yeah, the news broke.
 
“, but the WSJ today provided new details citing people familiar with the company's plans. “

Really, this is “journalism” at its best… so going forward take comments like “familiar with the plans” with more than a grain of salt… only a day later Apple makes announcement that proves the entire “article” BS
 
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I think sideloading in authoritarian countries would also do a service to citizens who don't get to enjoy the human rights their countries have actually signed on in the UN charter.
That is what i have said several times elsewhere, for example in China people would benefit a lot from sideloading as Apple listens CCP "Vinnie pooh" and blocks certain apps that CCP do not like.
 
Desktop computers certainly weren't oriented around web apps and neither were consoles.
That’s a logical thought until you find out about the spiritual ancestor of this (web based apps): thin clients and mainframes
 
Microsoft never intended to make native apps. They wanted to compete in the App Store with other game developers that did make native apps. So Apple's requirement that Microsoft submit each game individually was supporting fair competition within the App Store, i.e., Microsoft wasn't allowed to undercut those sellers that had taken the time/expense to port the games to native iOS format.
This POV on game streaming apps aged like milk. 😂

 
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That’s literally the point. That’s not a problem. It requires a conscious decision by the user to run an unsigned app. That means it provides security while still allowing folks to use the platform as they need. The requirement is that if you’re taking that extra step you’re aware of the risk

If nothing unsigned could run they’d lose a huge amount of tech folks and others that use macs literally immediately. It would cripple my ability to work on a mac for instance
I had to get used to this when I got my Mac Studio. For years it was the App Store. lf got used to having this safe harbor of trust worthy app's that isn't to say they were all useful but at least they were not going to be harmful. With the Mac I learned that not all of the App's I had used on the iPhones for years were available on the Mac. As I have pointed out the Mac App store is a joke compared to the iOS one. But for computers I came from the PC world we didn't have no stink'n app store, at least not until a few years ago and that one really is a sidewalk loaf. I mentioned up thread I found a lot of the apps I had been using for years on my iPhones when searched pointed to WebCatalog. I have it loaded and I am very pleased with how it works, yes I have to pay a yearly subscription but they have to make an income to maintain it and the old statement, "you get what you pay for." counts. My family is mostly Android. So when I clue them into a app I alway direct them to the Google Play Store.

The one thing that I had to learn was the hassle of digging into the system preferences to allow unsigned apps to run on the Mac. Even after doing this some of the Applications have to be re-authorized to open with a restart. You get a popup that says something like, "If you open this app you Mac computer will blow up in your face." This warning is something of a joke to me, coming from the Windows world where a Windows Update can cause so much grief.
 
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Pretty sure I’ve never once bought something because of a YouTube sponsorship and I don’t see that changing. Advertising only works if you’re interested in being sold something.

I'm hard pressed to say if I bought anything from a sponsored add either. If one doesn't like advertising, don't consume advertiser sponsored/paid for content. You can fast forward but nuking the add before it's presented will eventually either kill the content. I happily pay for YouTube premium to skip YouTube's adds, I largely fast forward through the sponsored reads especially if the product has zero appeal. I still know who the sponsor is, and for them that may still have value. For Podcasts I listen to, I will generally always listen to the first airing of the sponsor read.
 
Apple isn’t just setting their margins. They’re acting as a player and a referee by taking a 30% cut from direct competitors. As for the rest of it, most people don’t subscribe to your libertarian fantasy that would end with a decimated environment and a handful of corporations owning everything.

I don't want a handful of corporation owning everything. But if that is to change, the laws needs to change. And until political systems shift such that corporations don't have the power they do today it will continue. "We" enable this behaviour by buying the products and shares of the company.

In today's business world there is seems to be one prevailing strategy; grow big, grow fast, get acquired by an even bigger company. Stop growing and you're done and worthless. It creates a vicious circle where you end up with a few large players. I hate that this is what is happening but feel powerless to stop it.
 
I just skip whatever I want if the platform allows me to.

I'm OK with skipping adds, I do it to. But using a plug in that completely eliminate the add is a completely different story. If creators loose revenue from in add sponsor reads, they will just insert more adds, sometimes just to survive. Most people have no idea as to how much effort goes into producing those 15 minute videos. The revenue of sponsored add reads make the contention creation viable and profitable, if both can't be true, the content dies.

P.s. The reason I reply to single threads responses that is too hard to keep the conversation going when you do a 10 post multi quote reply.
 
Harmonyos has about 3-4 percent global share. Even windows phone had a higher market share so yes it is highly irrelevant. Its success mainly is from china and that makes sense. I’m not downplaying the OS. I’m stating facts. Android and iPhone still have higher market share presently than harmony.

Your facts about the Windows Phone are wrong.

As of mid 2023:

Android - 3.6 Billion Users
iOS - 1.5 Billion Users
HarmonyOS - 60 Million Users.
Windows Phone - 1 Million Users
 
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Your facts about the Windows Phone are wrong.

As of mid 2023:

Android - 3.6 Billion Users
iOS - 1.5 Billion Users
HarmonyOS - 60 Million Users.
Windows Phone - 1 Million Users

iOS is about half of Android. HarmonyOS is about half of iOS. There is no comparable 4th mobile OS.
How is 60M half of 1.5B?
 
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In Jobs's official bio, Art Levinson (on the board) claimed the sticking point for Jobs was the security of native apps. He didn't think Apple would be capable of policing bad apps on the platform. The App Store was the solution.
Jesus. You know that Apple not once mentioned here money being the issue? Sure, enough people will believe them but it's a spit in the face of any customer with an IQ higher than five.
That is what i have said several times elsewhere, for example in China people would benefit a lot from sideloading as Apple listens CCP "Vinnie pooh" and blocks certain apps that CCP do not like.
I'd even give up my EU right for sideloading if the Chinese could get our model and be reconnected to the normal iCloud.
As did a lot of other tirelessly pro-Apple comments in this thread lol.
Apple could sacrifice a rat on the Genius Bar and they probably wouldn't even mind. :D
You get a popup that says something like, "If you open this app you Mac computer will blow up in your face." This warning is something of a joke to me, coming from the Windows world where a Windows Update can cause so much grief.
Trust me, more often than necessary, said updates from Apple also do that thing.
The Mac vs PC guy ads do no longer work because Apple OS' simply don't just work anymore. They lost that juice the same as Google lost their "don't be evil" mantra.
I'm hard pressed to say if I bought anything from a sponsored add either. If one doesn't like advertising, don't consume advertiser sponsored/paid for content. You can fast forward but nuking the add before it's presented will eventually either kill the content. I happily pay for YouTube premium to skip YouTube's adds, I largely fast forward through the sponsored reads especially if the product has zero appeal. I still know who the sponsor is, and for them that may still have value. For Podcasts I listen to, I will generally always listen to the first airing of the sponsor read.
A lot of content creators have ads for things that are domestic-only, or out of my reach in any regards, logistically or otherwise.
It's my choice to skip or to tell someone to skip. In the age of AI, automation should not be a new or controversial topic.
How is 60M half of 1.5B?
Some people just want to see the world burn.
 
Your facts about the Windows Phone are wrong.

As of mid 2023:

Android - 3.6 Billion Users
iOS - 1.5 Billion Users
HarmonyOS - 60 Million Users.
Windows Phone - 1 Million Users

iOS is about half of Android. HarmonyOS is about half of iOS. There is no comparable 4th mobile OS.
Your math is off by an order of magnitude, look at your numbers again. That’s not 1/2 iOS, that’s less than 1/20th (to be exact 1/25th). HarmonyOS doesnt have 50% of iOS’ marketshare, it has 4%.
 
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Look at it this way the eternal war between Apple and jailbreakers will end. Never had a reason for even trying this with and iPhone. As one person pointed out there are over 200 fart apps in the App Store why jailbreak one so you can load the other 600.

There is one thing an evil friend of mine does. He has a fart library available and he sends out random Airplay transmissions. Every so often he catches someone with wide open Airplay the results are hilarious.
 
Stop repeating this lie.

There is no standard margin in retail. Sure, some high end boutique stores may get 30%. But grocery store typical margins are 1% - 3%.

While I agree that grocery runs on extremely small margins those are usually padded with slotting fees or buying shelf space, money for operating costs and profits gotta come from somewhere. High end boutique stores are getting way more than 30%.

My industry is a standard double up on cost with a few categories in the 25-40% margin range.
 
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