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I would be very surprised if it offer 8 HP Core.

I am predicting it would stay the same 4 + 4 CPU Core, with majority of space going to GPU and NPU.
 
Didn’t the butterfly keyboard live on in the iPad Pro case?

You speak of the Smart Keyboard Folio? I got one. In my view, it is totally different from the butterfly keyboard. "Butterfly" is like typing on a concrete block. The SKF, as I shall be going to call it, feels much more comfortable. It has a hint of key travel which is underlined by the smooth surface of the keys. Much less noise with the SKF, also.

Some miss the background light the SKF lacks. Doesn't matter to me as 1) I usually do not use the iPad Pro in the darkest night, 2) when I do, the screen gives some light and 3) I have learned touch typing when I was young.
 
You speak of the Smart Keyboard Folio? I got one. In my view, it is totally different from the butterfly keyboard. "Butterfly" is like typing on a concrete block.
Butterfly on the 2015 and 2016 MacBook is like typing on a pizza box (as Ars Technica described it). The 2017 MacBook's keyboard is distinctly different. Not great, but noticeably better than on the 2015 and 2016 MacBook.
 
I guess I didn't follow the news around the single-port 12" MacBook back in the day. How did it even get used? Constant multi-port adapters and docks? Was the target consumer someone who wouldn't be plugging things in often? Two ports I could live with but one seems crazy.

This MacBook was aimed more at light usage. One port is fine for people like that. When I had my MacBook the port was only ever used to charge it.
 
This MacBook was aimed more at light usage. One port is fine for people like that. When I had my MacBook the port was only ever used to charge it.
Yeah, besides, so many things are wireless these days. Files are shared online, entertainment is streamed, apps are installed via the web. Mice, printing, all that stuff can happen wireless. Airplay let's you share screen without wire. Apps can developed over network connection.

Most of the basic user stuff doesn't require physical connection, so expect few ports I'd say.
 
this makes the most sense out of all the first apple silicon rumors.

the last 12-inch was severely underpowered. apple will show it'll be nearly as powerful as MBP, but not quite enough ports for pros to switch over. then it'll show what apple silicon can do with better thermal design in the MBP.

I disagree. I still use the 2015(!) MacBook running virtual machines (Windows), Office suite, Teams meetings and even editing 4K drone videos.
 
You speak of the Smart Keyboard Folio? I got one. In my view, it is totally different from the butterfly keyboard.

I was thinking of the floating magic keyboard for the iPad Pro, but I am wrong. According to the macrumors post about it, it was a scissor mechanism not butterfly.
 
I disagree. I still use the 2015(!) MacBook running virtual machines (Windows), Office suite, Teams meetings and even editing 4K drone videos.
Disagreed. I too have a 2015 MacBook. It struggles to launch Safari alone. Barely can leave a video playing while doing other things
 
Presumably with smaller bezels, the 12 inch MacBook will be more like the size of the current 13 inch MBA & MBP screens.

And presumably like the IPP (and the original MacBook) this will have no fan.

Sounds like this will be a fantastic ultraportable laptop.
 
I disagree. I still use the 2015(!) MacBook running virtual machines (Windows), Office suite, Teams meetings and even editing 4K drone videos.

I disagree, but it all depends on what you define ‘use’ as.
For example I don’t expect my computer to hold me back in a single operation. If it does, it is getting replaced.
However my partner has been fine using Remote Desktop over the last 4.5 months, where it would drive me insane.

One persons expectations of technology are vastly different to others. It is the level you believe is acceptable that matters.

I had a macbook and sold it as soon as I could, as it didnt meet my needs. It obviously meets yours, but this is all anecdotal.
 
I have been using Mac / Apple products since 1993 (anybody here remember Appletalk?). Recently, I bought a 17" LG Gram laptop and that one is super light. I was wondering why can't Apple take a cue and make their products lighter? The 17" Gram feels like a feather compared to my 13" Mac Book Pro.
 
I guess this super light under 1kg mac will get some ipadpro+keyboard users
The only users that will still wants ipads+keyboard are the one who likes ipados
The price of an macbook will be the same as an ipad pro plus keyboard, the weight almost the same, the arm mac now will run, literally any app from iphones, ipads, macos, linux, while the ipad will not
So in the end will be about who likes ipados and touch and who wants everything else
 
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I have been using Mac / Apple products since 1993 (anybody here remember Appletalk?). Recently, I bought a 17" LG Gram laptop and that one is super light. I was wondering why can't Apple take a cue and make their products lighter? The 17" Gram feels like a feather compared to my 13" Mac Book Pro.
I had the 15” gram, different type of products, but yes, if apple wants to make an 15” macbook air , they could make it at around 1.3-1.5kg
But again this is just one company that makes macs..and based on their vision cannot make 10 types of macbooks ..not worth it for then
 
That’s what Apple should do but the Air name is so powerful I’m not sure they can drop it. Even when the 13” MNP was getting into Air territory in terms of thickness and weight tech journalists were still whining about Apple not selling a retina Air. But having the MB, MBA and MBP makes no sense.

It makes sense if the Air name is going to be retired soon but they want to keep the Air around for people and businesses that need new intel MacBooks still whilst the transition is underway.

Agree with you that the MBA is a great sub-brand with huge equity.

Maybe Apple is counting on the overall impact of the new machine plus that it’s the new MacBook to be powerful enough marketing.
 
Oh, well, this is interesting. This is where most here, including myself, speculated Apple would start with an ARM product based on what would make the most sense given the current lineup. Then all of the other rumors rolled out and it seemed like Apple would go all in on a 16" ARM MBP by the end of this year.

Even though we still don't know what will get released first, I like that this report has come out. I won't need another iPad Pro if this is true, although I really do like the touch screen capability and pencil use that the iPP has. Can't wait to see pricing and performance reviews for the 12" ARM iBook/MBA/MB.

Good stuff.
 
It needs to come in at $500 and it will take over EDU. Sigh... but no... just go get a sheeety CrrapBook and preetend google is a hardware manufacturer... lol
 
Some tests we did on the Apple Transition kit with Apple Silicone.

Encoding the free animation movie bbb_sunflower_1080p_30fps to a MP4 format with HEVC and AAC with a video bitrate of 6000k and audio bitrate of 256k
Encoding with FFmpeg 4.3.1 compiled versions for ARM and Intel (with x265 library)

Both system running Mac Big Sur Beta 5

Software encoding for video and audio:
Intel Core i9 2.3Ghz 8core 5:09
Intel Core i3 2.8Ghz. 23:18
Apple Silicone A12Z 36:43

Hardware encoding with Apple Videotoolbox (*) for video and audio:
Intel Core i9 2:58
Apple Silicone A12Z 10:51
Intel Core i3 N/A (does not have HEVC hardware accelerated encoding)

Although the Apple transition kit is not using the most powerful ARM atm it does clearly indicate they are much slower in doing hard crunching numbers. With the A14 it may be a bit closer to Intel Core i3
The hardware accelerated encoding was much slower too (which was a surprise).
Basically a Core i5, i7 and i9 will be much faster for the foreseeable future.

A side note: the Apple kit got incredible warm and it may have did some throttling along the test.

(*) Although it’s faster to encode, the file size is much bigger compared when using the software x265 encoder for achieving the same quality. This is a known problem/side effect when using VideoToolbox hardware accelerated APIs. If you need smal file size with high quality, you’re only choice is software encoding.
Wow, thanks so much for posting that!
 
Glad I just went ahead and bought the 16” MBP the other day. Seems like there probably won’t be a chip variant ready for it for over a year at a minimum when the A15 comes out. I’ve needed a MBP since the spring and finally caved. Glad I did. It seems fine so far and it will be a couple more years until third party Mac software is fully optimized for ARM and the bugs are worked out. Wish I had realized this sooner.
Yeah and the more I look into this, the more I realise that the reason iPads don't have fans, is not because they have magical heat avoiding powers, but because by and large they aren't doing anything processor intensive. But as soon as you crank up the video encoding, they get hot. I'm beginning to think this Apple silicon thing is mostly hype, and just an excuse to turn Macs super proprietary and screw more $$$ out of users. I hope I'm wrong, as I love macOS compared to Win, but I have a feeling this might be about to turn worse, not better. Maybe I might be joining you on a 16MBP when my 2015 eventually dies (long may it live), and hopefully Big Sur turns out much better than Catalina.
 
I hope they don't keep both the 12-inch and the Air. Or just call it the 12-inch Air.
Sure, but make a 14" as well, and even a 16" too. I can't see any reason not to have 12, 14, and 16" in both Pro and Air lines. I'd prob go a 16" Air if one came out, as I like a bigger screen, but don't need heavy processing. And I'm sure there are people that need to do heavy processing, but want maximum portability for the power, so would love a 12" Pro.
 
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