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Demand vanishes into fresh Air
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Would’ve thought that 2+ years of mini customers updating would’ve been a better bet.
Then again, this is the precursor to the fold - stereo speakers comes next year with both sides.
I believe the regular iPhone 17 is claimed to have the same but when I connected it to a portable monitor via USB-C it displayed video and mirrored just like the Pro model, maybe it’s just the charging speed and data transfer speed.No display output via USB-C to an external monitor or TV.
I believe the regular iPhone 17 is claimed to have the same but when I connected it to a portable monitor via USB-C it displayed video and mirrored just like the Pro model, maybe it’s just the charging speed and data transfer speed.
Another camera would only be the ultra wide one… and you would need to sacrifice like in battery… I don’t think it’s a big deal…When I first saw the iPhone Air in a store, it looked and felt amazing, and I almost swapped my iPhone 15 PM for it! But after a little thought, I realized I’m not ready to give up the awesome triple camera and stereo speakers. If they could add at least a double camera setup and stereo speakers, I would’ve bought one right away!
The better design is with minimal user input - Automated local WiFi backup is a better user experience than cable connection.1.7Gbps is great but you're trying to make a point against faster USBs in iPhones it's your prerogative. I'm still in favor for usb 3.2 or Thunderbolt speed.
Right that's what I said. I was trying to figure out your point. Were you saying there should be a better camera on the Air?just pulled from reddit because I am lazy but:
"iPhone 17 (base) comes with 1/1.56” main camera sensor whereas iPhone 15 Pro comes with 1/1.28” main camera sensor — which is about 50% bigger."
Say what you will, the camera on the Pro's is much better than that of the regular iPhones and Air.. I'm not saying the regulars and Air can't produce great results, but it's a $1k+ phone. I don't think expecting greatness is some niche thing.
They're cutting corners usb2 is cheaper than usb3.2 or thunderbolt, mono speaker is cheaper than stereo and 1 lens is cheaper than 2.The better design is with minimal user input - Automated local WiFi backup is a better user experience than cable connection.
Apple does not make decisions based on specifications, they are a design company that follow the user better than most other tech companies.
Higher price than the iPhone 17 and crippled in a basic way, terrible. Thank you for pointing the facts, I honestly thought it was supposed to be the same between the two with the Pro being an exception.It's just the Air that can't do it.
17 & 17 Pro are fully featured in this regard.
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So why aren't more people buying them when they compare them in store?
Put your shoe on the other foot and be devils advocate and strong man the argument against the Air.
That's best way to analyze these situations.
(marketing spend not an issue to a buyer already in a store and comparing the options side by side)
The problem with your statement is that "value" is in the eye of the beholder. And to answer your question - neither I nor my wife are using a case with the Air. The most we put on it - when we have to - is either a MagSafe wallet or a MagSafe battery.Poor value for money.
Also, who isn’t going to put it in a case anyway. Defeats the purpose, no ?
Ugh. I haven’t waded through all the posts in this thread because my blood pressure wouldn’t be able to handle the rage.
The iPhone Air is being killed (if it is being killed) by idiot influencers highlighting bizarre use-cases and non-issues and people blindly believing them despite never having been within a hundred yards of an actual iPhone Air.
I’ve had mine since release day. I have had zero battery issues. Zero overheating issues. Zero throttling issues. It is quite simply the best iPhone I have ever owned and I have owned a lot of iPhones. I’m very old.
Apple produces something genuinely novel and the hoardes rush in to demand mediocrity. Which is actually a pretty accurate description of the world as a whole right now.
They already killed the iPhone mini. Was that not victory enough?
That’s fair. I’m spoilt and am not particularly price sensitive.I suspect the price for what one is getting is a problem when comparing to the 17/17 Pro in person.
Ah yes, the phone that shoved an absolutely massive 7500 mAh battery in there… and *still* were only able to squeeze out an extra six minutes over the iPhone.If you haven't already, take a look at Marques comparing the iPhone 17 Pro Max with the Xiaomi 17 Pro Max:
You may not mind paying more for less when compared to the regular iPhone 17 but many customers are price conscience and sensitive. Though price is not an issue for me, I dislike the compromises the iPhone Air has to make it a viable product. I dislike earphones in my ears constantly as it’s bothersome. When I take out a picture I don’t want to second guess myself that another iPhone would have more capabilities and the same goes for travelling, I don’t want to lug around an external battery or power back.Ugh. I haven’t waded through all the posts in this thread because my blood pressure wouldn’t be able to handle the rage.
The iPhone Air is being killed (if it is being killed) by idiot influencers highlighting bizarre use-cases and non-issues and people blindly believing them despite never having been within a hundred yards of an actual iPhone Air.
I’ve had mine since release day. I have had zero battery issues. Zero overheating issues. Zero throttling issues. It is quite simply the best iPhone I have ever owned and I have owned a lot of iPhones. I’m very old.
Apple produces something genuinely novel and the hoardes rush in to demand mediocrity. Which is actually a pretty accurate description of the world as a whole right now.
They already killed the iPhone mini. Was that not victory enough?
Right, the camera is the only thing keeping this phone from greatness. I absolutely love the size and weight. So much better to put in your pocket or carry around, almost feels fake lol. Plus the battery life is actually better than I expected. If they could just somehow make one with a pro level camera… bonus to add some cool colors, like orange or purple from the pros 👌When I first saw the iPhone Air in a store, it looked and felt amazing, and I almost swapped my iPhone 15 PM for it! But after a little thought, I realized I’m not ready to give up the awesome triple camera and stereo speakers. If they could add at least a double camera setup and stereo speakers, I would’ve bought one right away!
I don't think they were given the right brief. Going for the 'thinnest iPhone ever' was a pointless endeavour if it requires so much compromise