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We have to resort to other means. One way of counting is to use the number of activations. Unfortunately, Apple doesn't report those for tablets, and Google doesn't count most of the cheap ones, nor do they break out tablets from phones (except for reported Honeycomb tablets, which are undoubtedly the minority of tablet sales).


IPads are very popular (I just gave one to a daughter yesterday, even though she has an Android phone), but not everyone can afford them. So a lot of people are buying under-$200 Android tablets (which are usually best used as kids' tablets, but are okay for browsing and a few games. These tablets are usually not reported in Google's activation numbers.)

I am curious. How does Google know a tablet is under-$200 Android tablets?
 
I am curious. How does Google know a tablet is under-$200 Android tablets?

The point is, they usually don't know about them at all.

Google is only counting activations of devices using their services. On better tablets, you go through a Google activation process on first startup.

Most of the inexpensive tablets have not licensed Google apps, and many cannot even access the Market unless you sideload a hacked version... which is actually probably pretty common.

As for Honeycomb, if you regularly visit woot, ubid, redtag, ebay, craigslist and all the other tablet outlets, it's easy to notice that almost all inexpensive Android tablets are running Froyo 2.2 these days. (Which is at least a step up from a year ago, when many were running 1.6).

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The upshot is: many, many inexpensive tablets are not counted by Google either by activation or by Honeycomb counts.
 
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The point is, they usually don't know about them at all.

Google is only counting activations of devices using their services. On better tablets, you go through a Google activation process on first startup.

Most of the inexpensive tablets have not licensed Google apps, and many cannot even access the Market unless you sideload a hacked version... which is actually probably pretty common.

As for Honeycomb, if you regularly visit woot, ubid, redtag, ebay, craigslist and all the other tablet outlets, it's easy to notice that almost all inexpensive Android tablets are running Froyo 2.2 these days. (Which is at least a step up from a year ago, when many were running 1.6).

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The upshot is: many, many inexpensive tablets are not counted by Google either by activation or by Honeycomb counts.

I am still confused. Isn't the Android OS free? Why can't the cheap Android tablets license it? Why would any retail outlets sell them if they can not be activated? Wouldn't they get a lot of returns? I thought some Android buyers are stupid. But I would not think they are this stupid.
 
I am still confused. Isn't the Android OS free? Why can't the cheap Android tablets license it? Why would any retail outlets sell them if they can not be activated? Wouldn't they get a lot of returns?

The Android OS itself is free and does not require activation.

Including Google services with the device requires a license from Google. (I have no idea how much they charge for that.)

I thought some Android buyers are stupid. But I would not think they are this stupid.

There's no call for insults.
 
Google is really good at adding new features to things, but really bad at making it all make sense. It all has a "beta" feel to it. Like it was made by people who get more excited about the algorithm they made rather than whether it was useful or intuitive.


Also, why is the android logo a green space alien? Never understood that....
 
Also, why is the android logo a green space alien? Never understood that....

Might as well ask why Verizon advertised Android phones by expliciting showing users being turned into machines. In both your example and mine, these are ideas that teen boys find exciting, and everyone else finds repellant at worst or silly at best. Good examples of techies approving the ads and missing the big picture.
 
I think the 94% claim is no longer true, at least from what I've seen in the web, Apple did have that 94% marketshare, but Android now has 30% marketshare..

Apple is still the leader :p, and honestly I've tried many tablets, seen many reviews and I don't think there is a better experience then what the iPad offers..

But I have to admit that HP Touchpad and Blackberry Playbook have got Multi-Tasking right imo...
 
Also, why is the android logo a green space alien? Never understood that....

It's a robot, not an alien.

AFAIK, they've never said why, but here's a guess:

Android as a company was founded to make phones more aware of their owners. Preferences, locations, interactions, etc. In other words, a mix between robots and humans, which could be roughly defined as an "android".

Perhaps we are the human part, and the mascot is the robot part ?

As for green, who knows. I'm still trying to figure out why Apple's logo went from rainbow to chrome-silver :)
 
They need to stop all the 'tablet market' crap. Looking at the recent Apple iPad sales figures highlights the fact that there is an iPad Market and no one gives a crap about the droid pads.
 
This is where using Accounting Definitions (GAAP) is misleading.

Shipping Terms define "Sales/Revenue" for accounting purposes.

Millions of Android tablets shipped to best buy are counted as sales and an estimate of sales returns and allowances is recorded for ones that are returned to the manufacturers.

You can't use Accounting Definitions to describe Market Share of a product!!!!!! That doesn't even make any senes and it's misleading and lazy reporting.

I thinbk the active Honeycomb users is like 1% of all android devices out there. That is a little over 1 Million. Compared to Apples I have no idea what their ipad sales are 30M? That is more insane than the iPod market.

Stop using Accounting Definitions to be misleading.
 
I thinbk the active Honeycomb users is like 1% of all android devices out there. That is a little over 1 Million. Compared to Apples I have no idea what their ipad sales are 30M?

As mentioned above, there are far more Android tablets without Honeycomb than with. So they won't show up on an OS pie chart.

a single device (fine 2) with greater than 60% of a market is rather incredible regardless :D

Very true, assuming it keeps that 60% going forward.
 
Well I'm from the UK, so that actually has nothing to do with what I was on about.

Perhaps, but since the IBs I was talking about are multinationals, and obviously have a big UK presence, it's absolutely true that in the UK too the iPad is a big choice of the business world.

And since 80% or more of the Fortune 500 are creating pilot programs (or already deploying) iPads, it's clear business does not find security issues with the iPad. It's big in business already.
 
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Well I'm from the UK, so that actually has nothing to do with what I was on about.
Perhaps not, but it's important to note that the Android OS is inherently less secure that iOS because the App Marketplace is not regulated, so malware is a much higher risk for Android-based devices, unless they are locked down so that no additional apps can be installed.
 
Perhaps not, but it's important to note that the Android OS is inherently less secure that iOS because the App Marketplace is not regulated, so malware is a much higher risk for Android-based devices, unless they are locked down so that no additional apps can be installed.
Android provides the flexibility for the bank to apply their own security software, encryption, bootloader, etc onto the tablets, pretty much integrated into the OS, like they do with the Windows based laptops used for his work.

iOS is simply not flexible enough. The bank needs to be able to have full control of the OS. Android provides it, iOS doesn't.
 
Android provides the flexibility for the bank to apply their own security software, encryption, bootloader, etc onto the tablets, pretty much integrated into the OS, like they do with the Windows based laptops used for his work.

iOS is simply not flexible enough. The bank needs to be able to have full control of the OS. Android provides it, iOS doesn't.

Oh well, that's entirely different. For them Android is the requirement. But that's not the same as saying there is something wrong with the iPad in business, for most businesses are having no issue using them. Most businesses don't need to install bootloaders.
 
Again, if even a single usage study exists that does not support Apple's sales numbers, then your statement is false. And with the existence of the study featured by this very article; QED, by counter-example.
This article does not point to a usage study. It is a market share statement made by an analytics firm that hasn't provided any data to back up its statement. Please point me to a usage study that contradicts my statement.

Why would anyone even expect Google to report hardware sales numbers?
Then why does Andy Rubin keep tweeting activation numbers? I'm confused. Is there any third party verification (at all) of what this guy keeps tweeting? Not one.
 
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