Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition "Blurry"?

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  1. fiercetiger224 macrumors 6502a

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    So I have a dilemma...My eyes are either lying to me or they're telling me the truth. I started playing Resident Evil 4 again (this time for the Wii, since I had already beaten the original GC version and PS2 version), but this time, I booted it up on my nice, big Samsung 1080p HDTV.

    Upon playing, I noticed that even though the game is running in 480p widescreen, the graphics are "blurry" when compared to other Wii titles. Why is this?! Are my eyes lying to me?! Has anyone ever run into this problem?

    To test my eyes, I take my Wii to my trusty Sony 34-inch 1080i WEGA CRT (meaning everything looks good, be it SD or HD)! This time, when I start playing...SAME THING! WTF?! Did Capcom lie to us about retooling the game in true widescreen?! I'm almost thinking that what they did was, just software scale up the image from the GC build of the game! Meaning, they didn't make the game to truly run at 480p widescreen... :mad:

    To take this one step further, I pop in the PS2 build of the game, and do the same tests again, both on a PS2, and a PS3. Surprise surprise, the PS2 build was actually much sharper in 480p widescreen! The 480i mode looked sort of similar to the Wii version, but still a little big sharper.

    Before anyone says "did you check your TV info to make sure it was running in 480p", yes, I have. Otherwise I wouldn't be here telling you all of this. :p

    Anyway, I just thought I'd let everyone know...I didn't realize this until I started playing this again. Capcom is known for re-releasing old titles as crappy ports... :rolleyes:
     
  2. stainlessliquid macrumors 68000

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    Well the PC port was shockingly bad where they actually left out the lighting. I wouldnt expect much from the Wii port.
     
  3. Antares macrumors 68000

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    I thought the Wii version looked great. And yes, I also still have the Gamecube version of RE4 as well. RE4 Wii looks great in 480p on a 40" Samsung LCD TV.
     
  4. JackAxe macrumors 68000

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    RE4 is 480p, but Capcom cheated. As usual, they took a big shortcut to get one of their games onto the Wii. RE4 Wii isn't truly widescreen, it's 4:3. On a widescreen set it crops in, so zooms in on the content, which makes it fuzzy.

    Anyways, JUST PLAY THE DAM GAME!!!! Who cares if it's fuzzy. The Wii version is absolutely great and a big step up from the PS2 and Cube version, because of its controls. On a set your size, I know that the pointer tracking is good.
     
  5. fiercetiger224 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah I had already figured that out after all the testing. I took the GC version and zoomed in on it. And wala, looked nearly identical to the Wii version! It looks HORRIBLE on an HDTV like this. :mad:

    The controls are awesome though, but really I think it makes the game a little bit too easy. :rolleyes: It was more challenging with a standard controller. But then again, this game was never designed upfront as a Wii game.

    The only reason why I'm playing this game again is because I just watched RE: Degeneration. :D Much better movie than the horrible US trilogy.
     
  6. JackAxe macrumors 68000

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    Yeah, the game was too easy, that's also one of my complaints, but it's still a fun game. :) I did run out of ammo the first time I played it, :eek: but on the second play through on hard difficulty, it was easier. It bums me that RE5 is being balanced around thumb-sticks. The only reason I even care, is because I enjoyed RE4 Wii so much.

    I almost bought a 34" Wega from a guy on Craig's list that was about an hour from me, but also found a 30" Wega down the street in excellent condition, so picked it up -- I'm still a huge CRT fan. If you think it looks bad on your Wega, I played it through on my fixed pixel 19 LCD TV the first time and it's downright awful in comparison to how it looks on the Wega. The other 3 play throuhgs were on my precious 14" CRT where it looks good and the Wiimote tracking is practically 1:1.

    I'm not into most video game movies, but I'd probably enjoy it. I actually liked the first RE movie. :eek:
     
  7. fiercetiger224 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah I'm still a CRT fan too. HD stuff does look a lot sharper on LCDs, but nothing matches the non-existent response rates on CRTs. SD stuff also looks a lot better on CRTs. I've yet to see an OLED screen in person, but I've heard they're just about as good as a CRT on response rates, and better than LCDs on sharpness and contrast.

    Anyway, I thought even the first RE movie was horrible, but it was better than the other two. I like Degeneration because it's actually part of the storyline, and it feels like RE, unlike the other movies. :rolleyes:
     
  8. JackAxe macrumors 68000

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    My friend has a little OLED player from iRiver -- I think this was the brand -- it looks good from all angles, which for a cheap device was impressive. I recently read that OLED still has that blue fade issue. I thought this had been resolved.

    SEDTV seems to be the next best thing. It's the best of CRT and LCDs in one set. It's basically a nano tube CRT from what I understand. So it's flat, low power, fixed pixel, but has the color gamut and response of a CRT. The sets Sony demoed the other year were 240hz. I read that a new LCD set just hit that mark. Supposedly we'll see computer monitors first, then when the price comes down, TV sets.

    I'm a color whore, so this is why I like CRTs. I. I also like that they last a long time. If not for their inherent distortion and bulkiness, I would have never moved to LCDs for my work.

    RE Extinction was on TV the other hour. That Eminem corporate guy is lame to say the least. What were they thinking? :)
     
  9. qlmaX5 macrumors newbie

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    Also, the Wii on an HD monitor looks fuzzy just because of the resolutin differences. If you get the correct cables to use the HD ports, it should look a bit better.
     
  10. e²Studios macrumors 68020

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    The Wii on my 65" 1080p display doesn't look fuzzy at all. However at 480p it does make the jaggies look even more apparent. I am using the component cables and running at 480p.
     
  11. fiercetiger224 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Not fuzzy, but BLURRY. :p

    Anyway, I am using official component video cables. Remember, I stated that I've tested this on TWO different televisions, a 1080p LCD HDTV, and a 1080i/720p CRT. On a CRT, it looks a lot better. BUT it still doesn't look as "sharp" as the PS2 version, because it was actually developed to run at 480p 16:9 widescreen, as opposed to the Wii's "upscaling" of the 480i 4:3 fullscreen letterbox.
     
  12. Dagless macrumors Core

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    Same here, anything with component or above is sharp, but for low resolution stuff it's just a little too sharp on our 46" 1080p TV thingy.
     
  13. fiercetiger224 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Depends on what type of HDTV you have. :p

    On LCDs, it'll look like poop. On a CRT, it'll look a lot better (but then again, a CRT is able to display SD EDTV signals the best). You'll definitely tell the difference between RE4 and other Wii titles. When I pop in RE Umbrella Chronicles, it looks a lot sharper than RE4. I suggest anyone who has the PS2 version and Wii version, to give this a test. :p

    We all know that the GC/Wii build has better lighting, water effects, and shadow effects than the PS2 version. But the PS2 version has crisper visual thanks to true 480p widescreen.:rolleyes:
     
  14. Antares macrumors 68000

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    Could size have something to do with it, as well? Most people's CRTs were smaller in size while their HDTV's are 80% or more larger than those CRTs. If you look at both, while at an equal distance, The larger (LCD) version would look more blurry.

    But, yeah, I agree that RE4, on Wii, is not as crisp as other 480p widescreen games. But, to me, the Wii version does not seem more blurry than the GameCube version (looking at both on a 40" Samsung HDTV...played on a Wii). I don't have a PS2 version to compare them to, though.
     
  15. fiercetiger224 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Funny thing you ask. I thought that size would play a part in it as well. So I went over a friend's house that had a 27-inch Samsung LCD HDTV TV (yes, smaller than my CRT), and guess what? Same thing as my Samsung 40-inch HDTV. Looks like poop. Pop in GC version of RE4, looks much better and sharper on the 4:3 letterbox, until you zoom in on it, and it looks similar to the Wii build of the game. So same issue, regardless of picture size.

    So we pop in the PS2 RE4, and run at 480p, looks MUCH sharper. Just wanted to inform the uninformed that the Wii version DOES NOT TRULY RUN AT 480p. It's pretty much the same effect as GTAIV when comparing the PS3 version vs the 360 version. The upscaling just makes it blurry, compared to running at native resolution.

    BTW, where's my SED TV or OLED TV?! Wish technology would get cheaper faster...All you rich folks need to drive those prices down for us! :p
     
  16. neoelectronaut macrumors 68030

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    Are you playing RE4PS2 on a PS3? If so, it's likely upscaling the picture to 1080i/p, which is likely native or closer to native resolution than the Wii is outputting at 480p.

    IE, the scaler in the PS3 is better than the scaler in your TV.
     
  17. fiercetiger224 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    No, this is on a PS2. I've also tried it on the PS3, and it looks like poop in 480i upscaled to 1080p. Tried it on native 480p and looks identical to the PS2. Trust me, I've tried EVERY POSSIBLE combination. :p
     

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