That doesn't answer my questions regarding your restore....
Restored to the same firmware version?
What jb you had/used before doing the restore? 3GS you said?
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That doesn't answer my questions regarding your restore....
Restored to the same firmware version?
What jb you had/used before doing the restore? 3GS you said?
I would love to see any post where I have documented or detailed how many steps it takes me to jailbreak a phone.
What another poster says or types has no bearing on this. Again, you are making blanket assumptions which are incorrect.
Checkmate !
Be careful, the real knowledgeable JB guys haven't commented into this forum (it'd be a waste of their time to argue like above), so don't go thinking you're a hotshot just because you abbreviated a FW restore (to be honest, the guides you were probably reading were probably written for completely untechnical people so they had to divide each step into like 4 steps like "step1: move your mouse, step2: click the button"...those don't count as separate steps for people who have technical common sense) Also, Dhlizard typically knows what he's talking about, although he's very wordy and argumentative about it as illustrated. Lastly, the iPhone4 is indeed different than previous models, just as the 3GS had the old vs. new bootrom, so I wouldn't be surprised if the comment about the iPhone4 acting different was correct, which you seem to doubt just because it would thwart your words that "it shouldn't matter" the version just because your high-expertise eyes have not personally seen it yet for themselves. He may not be right about this particular, however, the models DO matter.
From post #9 in this thread:
"Just to test it out, I went and got the 4.0 firmware and tried my method. Guess what? It worked just as I described"
I hear ya Kayan. I'm just constantly amazed by how some people insist on doing things the hard way. And this guy is getting argumentative for no reason. Now he thinks hes won some kind of victory, even though I have not been proven wrong about my firmware method.
As far as the iPhone4, assuming there is a baseband SHSH that does not get signed causing the phone to stay in recovery mode, we can just add the step of using tiny umbrella to kick it out of recovery mode. But downloading SHSH's locally and then emulating a tss server etc etc, thats just not efficient, and sounds like gibberish to a non technical user (which I am definitely not). My point is NOT that I think most methods are hard. It's that it is stupidly unnecessary.
Repost from another thread:
Might be easy for you, but couple of minutes browsing:
1) Many people a have hard time editing host file, ie where to find it, how to edit and so on. With Tinyumbrella, it's just a button click.
2) Many have no clue what SHSH hashes are and which, if any, they have saved on Cydia. Can't out through Cydia if they restore, phone keeps crashing, in recovery mode or etc. Tinyumbrella tells them clearly.
3) During restore, phone could become stuck. Tinyumbrella "Kick out of recovery..." comes in handy.
Might be easy for you, but couple of minutes browsing:
1) Many people a have hard time editing host file, ie where to find it, how to edit and so on. With Tinyumbrella, it's just a button click.
2) Many have no clue what SHSH hashes are and which, if any, they have saved on Cydia. Can't out through Cydia if they restore, phone keeps crashing, in recovery mode or etc. Tinyumbrella tells them clearly.
3) During restore, phone could become stuck. Tinyumbrella "Kick out of recovery..." comes in handy.
Ok, I'm not here to start an argument with you OP, but I do have some constructive criticism about your attitude and intention on these forums.
You started a thread with a sole purpose of claiming you have discovered a faster, easier and more efficient way of jailbreaking/downgrading your "iPhone".
That's fine, but instead of clearly explaining what and how you achieved this result with step by step detailed instructions, you took your time to
a)openly criticized the inferior "time consuming" "confusing" methods of others.
b)claim how you... "I was right" and everyone else is wrong and they all like to "work harder but not smarter".
and that is all there was to your Original post.
At no point it explains how did you go about changing the host file to achieve said results, you just claim you did it, becasue you are smart and everyone else is dumb. (It took quite a bit of back and forth with TMar before you actually wrote your ONLY useful post. Post #12)
Now you do realize this (your OP) does nothing for you but show folks on these forums that
a) you are a bit naive, maybe even an amateur and...
b) you are an arrogant and egotistic douche!
I say naive because you totally underestimate the number of four existing models of iphones out there with God knows how many combination of firwmare and basebands which believe it or not may require different methods/steps of jailbreaking to get successful results.
Hence the countless numbers of threads about " recommend downloading tinyumbrela...putting your phone in DFU mode...going through that whole process etc. etc."
Apparently downgrading your iPhone 3Gs from 4.01. to 4.0 with your method (which took more than 20 posts to find out it was a 3Gs) should work for everyone out there with any kind of iphone on any FM or BB. But I'm afraid that's not the case, and you should have had the decency to mentioned that in your OP instead of just claiming how smart you are.
Anyway, believe it or not when I was new to these forums I had my small share of back and forth with dhlizard (He's very quick and good at calling overconfident noobs out)
My advice to you is this: If you want to start a fresh thread, first thing you should ask yourself is..."Is my thread going to help out others?" The fact being the main purpose of these forums (iPhone Hacks) is to ask for help and help out others with useful tips on Jailbreaking.
If you are going to post something that has no other purpose but to boost your own ego, I'm afraid you are in the wrong place my friend.
All the Best
-The Dubb
You started a thread with a sole purpose of claiming you have discovered a faster, easier and more efficient way of jailbreaking/downgrading your "iPhone".
That's fine, but instead of clearly explaining what and how you achieved this result with step by step detailed instructions, you took your time to
a)openly criticized the inferior "time consuming" "confusing" methods of others.
b)claim how you... "I was right" and everyone else is wrong and they all like to "work harder but not smarter".
and that is all there was to your Original post.
At no point it explains how did you go about changing the host file to achieve said results, you just claim you did it, becasue you are smart and everyone else is dumb. (It took quite a bit of back and forth with TMar before you actually wrote your ONLY useful post. Post #12)
Now you do realize this (your OP) does nothing for you but show folks on these forums that
a) you are a bit naive, maybe even an amateur and...
b) you are an arrogant and egotistic douche!
I say naive because you totally underestimate the number of four existing models of iphones out there with God knows how many combination of firwmare and basebands which believe it or not may require different methods/steps of jailbreaking to get successful results.
Hence the countless numbers of threads about " recommend downloading tinyumbrela...putting your phone in DFU mode...going through that whole process etc. etc."
Apparently downgrading your iPhone 3Gs from 4.01. to 4.0 with your method (which took more than 20 posts to find out it was a 3Gs) should work for everyone out there with any kind of iphone on any FM or BB. But I'm afraid that's not the case, and you should have had the decency to mentioned that in your OP instead of just claiming how smart you are.
Anyway, believe it or not when I was new to these forums I had my small share of back and forth with dhlizard (He's very quick and good at calling overconfident noobs out)
My advice to you is this: If you want to start a fresh thread, first thing you should ask yourself is..."Is my thread going to help out others?" The fact being the main purpose of these forums (iPhone Hacks) is to ask for help and help out others with useful tips on Jailbreaking.
If you are going to post something that has no other purpose but to boost your own ego, I'm afraid you are in the wrong place my friend.
All the Best
-The Dubb
I've been jail-breaking since AppTapp on FW 1.1.1, and virtually every subsequent firmware thereafter using myriad methods.
Too bad kre62 wasn't leading the way and simplifying things for me every time I got stuck or had issues.
Think of all the time I wasted!
Too bad kre62 wasn't leading the way and simplifying things for me every time I got stuck or had issues.
Think of all the time I wasted!
Just tried the OP's method of restoring and it was super easy. Even though he came off a little egotistical, at least the info was good. I can kind of see why he was irritated, as after I got done with this method I wondered why anyone would come up with all those other steps. I guess to each his own.
What many fail to understand (including the OP) is DFU is not needed for a normal restore (only when a phone is locked up). Once the host file is modified to point at Saurik's server instead of Apple server, hashes don't have to be downloaded (as long as they are on Saurik's server).
You simply point iTunes at the firmware you want to restore to using option plus restore (Mac) or shift plus restore (PC) and it will work. According to OP's initial post, that is exactly what he did and of course it's gonna work.
The OP didn't discover anything new, he didn't discover any shortcuts. He did it the same simple way everyone else does it when there are no other issues with the condition of the phone.
That is what all the other posters tried to tell him, but it seems he wasn't listening (reading).
Oh OK. It's just that every guide I read about restoring said to put the phone in DFU mode first, many also said to go get the blobs etc. So I can see where the OP is coming from on that.
God knows why, but I just spent the last few minutes reading this thread, and that's the exact conclusion I came to as well.
Yes, you can either edit your hosts file to trick your computer into thinking Saurik's server is actually Apple's or use Tiny Umbrella to trick iTunes into thinking the server running on your local machine is an Apple server.
Soooooo, what's new?
You sir are absolutely spot on with your understanding.
The DFU replies are what most people read here, because a basic restore (if hashes are saved) is as simple as documented here. Most can do a basic simple restore without needing to start a thread about it.
It's the ones who muck up their phone who are always needing help beyond a basic restore, so that's why the complex restore advice (involving DFU or recovery mode and downloading hashes to the computer because of port 80 problems) keep showing up thread after thread.
Ok, but you never answered about your jb method, you do know there are various jb methods that inject the jb code in different places on the phone...
Many of us here have used the same simple step of redirecting at one time or another, there is nothing new, you didn't discover the holy grail of fw restoration and even if you had actually found something new you didn't even explain your procedure in question to make it work on your first post, you just wanted to brag about knowing something that you clearly don't understand...
74.208.10.249 is Sauriks server NOT apple's, so if you had your signatures saved w/ Saurik it was just a matter of pointing iTunes to the FAKE server so that it can give you the OK to restore to the specific firmware you wanted...
Read before you create a boastful thread....
Looks like the op has been banned anyway so theres no use continuing to reply to this thread.