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Retina Display: Feature or Gimmick?
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I do this, and the technology does exactly that.
You destroyed your own argument. Bravo!
The real world of computers isn't a closed wall kind of system like iOS though, people keep pointing to the iPad, iPhone etc and comparing, but if you use third party apps that are across windows and mac the odds are they most likely couldn't care less about the Retina screen right now. It seems like something that will take a lot longer than the iOS switch
You, in the context of the statement is Apple.
Thank you for demonstrating what happens when you take a quote out of context. Your comment did however subtract one smart point from the internet. For shame.
It would be you "destroying" the argument, not myself, as you would prove as a counter example. Too bad you failed.
Ouch, that must hurt. This is a DISCUSSION FORUM, and not a OHH PLEASE LET US AVOID THIS OR THIS DISCUSSION FORUM.
Btw, i find this thread interesting and thought provoking. We have enough positive discussions about the retina display.
This being a discussion forum in no way changes the fact that it is not a question that should be externalized.
I am glad you like flame bait threads.
Says who?
Here is your list:
1. I will report your posts as obvious troll posts. I recommend a deletion.
2. You came into this thread, no one forced you. You did try to start a classic flame war, and no one else. We, the other members had a nice and OPEN discussion.
3. You try to insult people for no reason. So the best thing is, that i ignore your posts.
Said who?
There's no doubt - none - that text in office apps like Word and Pages looks worse. It's not just worse in relative terms. It's 1990s bad.
I'm skeptical that we're going to see RD across the board right away, at least not unless we see a clear commitment from the major third-parties to update their apps soon. Web surfing is great, but a pro-spec notebook has to do much more than that. I'm skeptical that Apple's going to run off and leave the core of its professional market. This is, after all, the MacBook Pro.
Presumably this is being ignored. If not, please move on.
Some players have already committed, one being Adobe who happens to be pretty major.
It is going to take time. How much? No one knows.
It's half-baked because in the world we live in today, with the apps and content we have to work with today, it makes half of them better and half of them worse.
It's like if Playboy suddenly switched to a format where the only clear pictures were of Roseanne Barr.
Please continue with this, and ignore the trolls! Thank you!
Btw, thanks for this interesting thread!
I confess to being a bit surprised at the number of folks on this forum who make the blanket statement that the RD image quality is awesome, when it so obviously isn't in so many situations. Certainly, people can make whatever compromise best fits their personal situation, but it is a compromise and to pretend otherwise is a bit irrational. And other folks who are on the fence should understand that the RD does require some pretty significant compromises.
Not every comment here is directed at you. I'm referring to the folks throughout this forum (not just this thread) who make the unqualified statement that the RD looks amazing. That's simply not true in many instances.
If Apple were to release a computer with nothing but an @ key on its keyboard, a predictable percentage of folks here would hail it is the greatest advance since the semiconductor. So it's sometimes difficult to separate fact from wishful thinking whenever a new Apple product comes out. In this case, the RD is indeed awesome for retina content. But it's definitely not so awesome in many other instances. Nothing wrong with making that clear.
Screw @2x content, I'm turning HiDPI support off when I get mine. And that's why I bought it, actually - to replace the 2048x1536 machine in my sig.
And for that, it's not at all a gimmick - everything renders exactly the same pixels that it would on previous Macs, but you can fit a lot more on the screen.
As for HiDPI stuff, I wouldn't say that it's a gimmick, but rather that it'll take a while to make full use of it.
Oh, and someone proved that Apple is doing perfect 1->4 pixel scaling, so the only reasons that it could look worse than a 1440x900 MBP is the contrast between sharp and pixelated content, and maybe the pixel spacing on the display being tighter.
Also, the very high resolution makes uneven scaling modes more practical, because it's harder to see the scaling blurriness.
And for that, it's not at all a gimmick - everything renders exactly the same pixels that it would on previous Macs, but you can fit a lot more on the screen.
As for HiDPI stuff, I wouldn't say that it's a gimmick, but rather that it'll take a while to make full use of it.
Oh, and someone proved that Apple is doing perfect 1->4 pixel scaling, so the only reasons that it could look worse than a 1440x900 MBP is the contrast between sharp and pixelated content, and maybe the pixel spacing on the display being tighter.
Also, the very high resolution makes uneven scaling modes more practical, because it's harder to see the scaling blurriness.
A study was done by Japanese NHK (people behind 4K and 8K UHDTV standard) to determine how "realness" of an image changes with increase of angular resolution. What is angular resolution? It is number of pixels per one degree of horizontal or vertical field of view. What conclusion did they reach?
Level of realness increases very fast as angular resolution goes up to 0 to 120 pixels per degree. After that, it rises slowly up to 310 pixels per degree. Data suggest level of realness would continue to rise slowly beyond that point up to about 400 pixels per degree where image is basically indistinguishable from real object (viewed through synopter).
At 2 ft distance, what is the angular resolution of Retina MacBook Pro?
Let's find out.
Retina MacBook Pro (15.4'') is 12.31'' wide.
At the distance of 2 ft, it occupies 30.44° of person's field of view horizontally.
Horizontal resolution of Retina MacBook Pro is 2880 pixels.
2880/30.44 = angular resolution [pixels per degree]
2880/30.44 = 94.6 pixels per degree.
At distance of 2 ft (24''), new Retina MacBook Pro has angular resolution of 95 pixels per degree.
Not seeing pixelation ≠ no benefit from more pixels.
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The name itself is a gimmick. All the screen is, is just an IPS screen with 240+ ppi.
If using ppi as a standard of "quality" then the Galaxy S4 must blow everything away at 440+ ppi.
If using ppi as a standard of "quality" then the Galaxy S4 must blow everything away at 440+ ppi.
