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terrymaz

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Just went to Best buy to see what i actually ordered from Apple. That display looked stunning. After i played with it for a little i went over to the air and it looked so much duller. Im now back home and on my 09 MBP and totally bummed i have to keep using this one till mid July. At least i finally got to see what i shelled out all that money for.
 
Don't say that too loud. All the people who can't afford one will show up shortly to tell you how stupid you were, and that it lags, and that it has burn-in issues, and you can't upgrade, and, and......

But in reality, congrats, you bought the best laptop ever made.
 
The "Dude";15114027 said:
Don't say that too loud. All the people who can't afford one will show up shortly to tell you how stupid you were, and that it lags, and that it has burn-in issues, and you can't upgrade, and, and......

But in reality, congrats, you bought the best laptop ever made.

HAHAHAHAHHAAHHA You are hater Dude!
 
The "Dude";15114027 said:
Don't say that too loud. All the people who can't afford one will show up shortly to tell you how stupid you were, and that it lags, and that it has burn-in issues, and you can't upgrade, and, and......

But in reality, congrats, you bought the best laptop ever made.

I know. The apple specialist and i were talking the exact same thing when i was there. You have to find something to bitch about. LOL I ordered the 16/512. Mid July can't come fast enough. ;)
 
Congrats! I've ordered one for myself. Just the 16/256 for me, (the 120 in my mbp is more than enough for me now).

The lagging and **** is going to disappear, and i think 90% of the buyers will be more than satisfied. I mean, the score on gdgt cant be that wrong...
 
Nice! I just picked up a 2012 Air, but I can't wait for the Retina Display to trickle down, hopefully in a year or two.
 
The "Dude";15114027 said:
Don't say that too loud. All the people who can't afford one will show up shortly to tell you how stupid you were, and that it lags, and that it has burn-in issues, and you can't upgrade, and, and......

But in reality, congrats, you bought the best laptop ever made.

I am new here, but I suppose you are what they refer to as an "Apple FanBoi?"

I can easily afford this thing, but if you carefully consider the reviews (not just cherry pick the good bits) and user feedbacks and simply use the thing in the shop (use it as you will use it in real life, not just look at the pretty optimized apps), then it is not such a bad decision to not buy the rmbp just yet. If you want to buy it, then go ahead, but there is no need to bash people for sitting it out for a while due to some obvious drawbacks that have not yet been fixed........
 
I am new here, but I suppose you are what they refer to as an "Apple FanBoi?"

I can easily afford this thing, but if you carefully consider the reviews (not just cherry pick the good bits) and user feedbacks and simply use the thing in the shop (use it as you will use it in real life, not just look at the pretty optimized apps), then it is not such a bad decision to not buy the rmbp just yet. If you want to buy it, then go ahead, but there is no need to bash people for sitting it out for a while due to some obvious drawbacks that have not yet been fixed........

I think you are right, there are a number of reasons to not buy it now. But I don't have enough reasons to buy something else. rMBP performance in an Air body is going to be years away. Holding out for better CPU and GPU is an option but I think I will be happy for now.
 
Retina Cinema Display please. Having that screen on a notebook that I can't upgrade does nothing for me. All my editing is done on an external monitor.
 
I am new here, but I suppose you are what they refer to as an "Apple FanBoi?"

I can easily afford this thing, but if you carefully consider the reviews (not just cherry pick the good bits) and user feedbacks and simply use the thing in the shop (use it as you will use it in real life, not just look at the pretty optimized apps), then it is not such a bad decision to not buy the rmbp just yet. If you want to buy it, then go ahead, but there is no need to bash people for sitting it out for a while due to some obvious drawbacks that have not yet been fixed........

Hey, that's some dangerous thinking there. Remember, if you have honest concerns about a new Apple product you are a 'hater'.

You pretty much have to love every product Apple has produced (Yes, Pippin too) or you will be chastized.
 
The "Dude";15114027 said:
Don't say that too loud. All the people who can't afford one will show up shortly to tell you how stupid you were, and that it lags, and that it has burn-in issues, and you can't upgrade, and, and......

But in reality, congrats, you bought the best laptop ever made.

I love your logic. Let me recap:

- If someone praises the laptop, he/she must be right.
- If someone shows some criticism, that means he/she can't afford it, thus (?) making anything stated totally unworthy.

A shorter version of this is:
- If you praise it, it's ok
- If not, you're totally wrong. You're very poor, thus you shouldn't even be here.

Great post, in a great thread with many great posts. What is it about, anyways? :confused:
 
The "Dude";15114027 said:
Don't say that too loud. All the people who can't afford one will show up shortly to tell you how stupid you were, and that it lags, and that it has burn-in issues, and you can't upgrade, and, and......


Tim will be by shortly to refill your Kool-Aid.
 
Just went to Best buy to see what i actually ordered from Apple. That display looked stunning. After i played with it for a little i went over to the air and it looked so much duller.

Yes, the retina LOOKS stunning, no one is arguing that. It's about its scrolling performance what people are complaining about (and rightfully so). I went to an Apple store to play around with the rMBP, and I noticed the infamous lag immediately.
 
I am new here, but I suppose you are what they refer to as an "Apple FanBoi?"

I can easily afford this thing, but if you carefully consider the reviews (not just cherry pick the good bits) and user feedbacks and simply use the thing in the shop (use it as you will use it in real life, not just look at the pretty optimized apps), then it is not such a bad decision to not buy the rmbp just yet. If you want to buy it, then go ahead, but there is no need to bash people for sitting it out for a while due to some obvious drawbacks that have not yet been fixed........

If by "fanboy" you mean someone who uses/likes Apples products, then yeah, I guess so. I you mean someone who unapologetically defends their every move, then no.

I own a rMBP. It replaced both my personal home computer, and my Windows laptop at work. I play Diablo 3 and Civ 5 and they look stunning. I also do some hobbyist video editinf and work wirh my personal photos. On the Windows side, I use MS Office and play Skyrim, both of which work perfectly.

I have had zero issues with lag. I have had no burn in whatsoever. I didn't cherry pick reviews. EVERY review I have read gave it a minimum of 4/5 stars. The only common negatives in the reviews were price and upgradability. Neither of which I care about. And I assume anyone buying one would be able to accept those drawbacks.

The fact is, a false hysteria has been caused on these forums. Maybe I'm just extremely lucky that I got the one machine that actually works well, but I think it's more likely that those who are used to getting the newest and best Apple toy are trying to find reasons to justify not spending the money on this one.

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I love your logic. Let me recap:

- If someone praises the laptop, he/she must be right.
- If someone shows some criticism, that means he/she can't afford it, thus (?) making anything stated totally unworthy.

A shorter version of this is:
- If you praise it, it's ok
- If not, you're totally wrong. You're very poor, thus you shouldn't even be here.

Great post, in a great thread with many great posts. What is it about, anyways? :confused:

My problem isn't with people criticising it. My problem is with the misinformation that's out there about it. There may be people who are looking for honest reviews, and all they see in the forum topics are "OMG burn in...HUGE problem on retina displays?!l". Give me a break.

EDIT: I'm running the 10.8 dev preview. Mountain Lion makes the lag issue a moot point. Many people have mentioned that, yet omg Facebook is laggy on the new rMBP. Sheesh.
 
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Yes, the retina LOOKS stunning, no one is arguing that. It's about its scrolling performance what people are complaining about (and rightfully so). I went to an Apple store to play around with the rMBP, and I noticed the infamous lag immediately.


I tried checking for that from what i have read here. I didn't notice any on the one i was using. Thats just me though.
 
I am new here, but I suppose you are what they refer to as an "Apple FanBoi?"

Take a look at the iPhone forums. That's where you'll find the Apple fanboys.

I can easily afford this thing, but if you carefully consider the reviews (not just cherry pick the good bits) and user feedbacks

I did.
AnandTech's review seems to say it's excellent, and indeed, they've given it an Editor's Choice.
The Verge gave it a 9/10.
Engadget says it pushes and redefines the category, with the only drawbacks being its price and the incompatibility with MagSafe 1.

Please carefully consider the reviews, and do not just cherry pick the poor feedback given by people who have spent 5 minutes with it on this forum.

and simply use the thing in the shop (use it as you will use it in real life, not just look at the pretty optimized apps),

I have used it as I will use it IRL... mainly because I own one and have been using it as my main computer for several days now. I honestly have no idea what everyone is on about when they talk about lag and screen burn in.

About the pretty optimized apps... they look nice, but the pixelation in non-optimized applications is nowhere near as bad as people on here say it is.

then it is not such a bad decision to not buy the rmbp just yet. If you want to buy it, then go ahead, but there is no need to bash people for sitting it out for a while due to some obvious drawbacks that have not yet been fixed........

Of course it's not a bad decision to not buy it right now. It's not a limited edition so you can buy one in a few months, and it doesn't give you wings or anything. If it's not right for you, don't get it. Simple as that.

What I'd like you to do is take your own advice and actually go, sit down with an rMBP, and use it for a while. Or better yet, buy one and use it for a week.
Return it if it really doesn't fit your needs, but don't go telling people who actually own these things to spend some real time with the machine. Instead, go do it yourself.
 
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The "Dude";15114728 said:
If by "fanboy" you mean someone who uses/likes Apples products, then yeah, I guess so. I you mean someone who unapologetically defends their every move, then no.

I own a rMBP. It replaced both my personal home computer, and my Windows laptop at work. I play Diablo 3 and Civ 5 and they look stunning. I also do some hobbyist video editinf and work wirh my personal photos. On the Windows side, I use MS Office and play Skyrim, both of which work perfectly.

I have had zero issues with lag. I have had no burn in whatsoever. I didn't cherry pick reviews. EVERY review I have read gave it a minimum of 4/5 stars. The only common negatives in the reviews were price and upgradability. Neither of which I care about. And I assume anyone buying one would be able to accept those drawbacks.

The fact is, a false hysteria has been caused on these forums. Maybe I'm just extremely lucky that I got the one machine that actually works well, but I think it's more likely that those who are used to getting the newest and best Apple toy are trying to find reasons to justify not spending the money on this one.

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My problem isn't with people criticising it. My problem is with the misinformation that's out there about it. There may be people who are looking for honest reviews, and all they see in the forum topics are "OMG burn in...HUGE problem on retina displays?!l". Give me a break.

EDIT: I'm running the 10.8 dev preview. Mountain Lion makes the lag issue a moot point. Many people have mentioned that, yet omg Facebook is laggy on the new rMBP. Sheesh.

Great comment :)

BTW, aside from facebook which is a consensus in its lag on the rMBP, how is the lag on other sites?
 
The lag I've noticed on websites is pretty minimal, and the vast majority of pages I visit work just fine. Even Facebook isn't that noticeable, but again I'm running the ML dev preview and I think they solved a lot of the issues with that.

I went to the 9gag website, and the only slight lag was with the sidebar they have on the right side of the page. There was a delay in the floating advertisement catching up to where i had scrolled to. As a comparison I opened the same page on my iPad 2 and the issue was even more prevalent. So I think it's more of a problem on the webpage's side of things. And honestly, the page was completely useable, and I wouldn't even have noticed it had I not been specifically looking for it.
 
The "Dude";15114027 said:
Don't say that too loud. All the people who can't afford one will show up shortly to tell you how stupid you were, and that it lags, and that it has burn-in issues, and you can't upgrade, and, and......

But in reality, congrats, you bought the best laptop ever made.

It has burn-in issues?
 
The "Dude";15115240 said:
The lag I've noticed on websites is pretty minimal, and the vast majority of pages I visit work just fine. Even Facebook isn't that noticeable, but again I'm running the ML dev preview and I think they solved a lot of the issues with that.

I went to the 9gag website, and the only slight lag was with the sidebar they have on the right side of the page. There was a delay in the floating advertisement catching up to where i had scrolled to. As a comparison I opened the same page on my iPad 2 and the issue was even more prevalent. So I think it's more of a problem on the webpage's side of things. And honestly, the page was completely useable, and I wouldn't even have noticed it had I not been specifically looking for it.

You sir, are very helpfull! Made me stop regretting that I ordered it :)

But can you tell me the performance in the OS animations(mission control, spaces, zoom etc.) in "best for retina" and "more space" mode?
 
You can spot the fanboys like The Dude because they claim their "perfect" experience is the same one that everyone buying the product gets, but anyone with a different experience is either a liar or someone you shouldnt be paying attention to. So yea, fanboy.
 
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