Yes. That's always a good idea when considering anything more complex than a manual toothbrush. F this I'm getting an Air for now.
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Retina MacBook Pro Pushes the Limits of its Graphics Capabilities
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The first iPad was a good starting point, but see, it doesn't have a powerful enough CPU to handle some new features of the newer iOS versions, from its launch you had to wait at least 1 year for the good productive App Store programs coming out, and last but not least it was way heavier than the 2. gen iPad. The iPad 2 may not have a retina display, but it was a way better product than the first iPad.
The first iPhone 4 was really a big hit, but there was the antennagate, and the hardware today doesn't seem to be powerful enough to support some handy new features. Make no mistake, I personally went with the iPhone 4 too, but the fact is fact. The iPhone 4S was a lot "safer" deal than the iPhone 4.
The 2010 MBA was a beautiful machine, a whole new level than the previous gen MBA, but you just had to wait 1 year, and it was repacked with the latest Sandy Bridge CPU-s, faster SSD, backlit keyboard, Thunderbolt, etc.
So let's face with the simple fact: buying a total new gen Apple product may be a lot more exciting than buying "just" an updated one, you feel yourself on the top of the world. But from a long-term perspective, it is almost ALWAYS BETTER to wait at least for the next update.
Sit back and relax, when it arrives and you've worked on it for a few days, it'll more than likely blow you away. The only downside is office and iWork need to be updates ASAP, and any other software you need for work.
Why do people keep repeating the same stuff? We get it! There's a ton of excuses to make for Apple, like it's s rev. 1 and that's life.
Enough!
Bottom line: nobody cares. Either it works accordingly or it's a lemon rip off. I don't know what to do at this point. I'm not confident that it's software. I think the hardware can't handle this. We'll see.
Enough!
Bottom line: nobody cares. Either it works accordingly or it's a lemon rip off. I don't know what to do at this point. I'm not confident that it's software. I think the hardware can't handle this. We'll see.
Crunch numbers all you want, no one really knows how the hardware is optimised and how they plan to optimise the software.
The only way to get a real experience is try it yourself, and according to most people in this thread who do have one say it is the greatest laptop they have ever used with amazing performance... thats good enough for me
The only way to get a real experience is try it yourself, and according to most people in this thread who do have one say it is the greatest laptop they have ever used with amazing performance... thats good enough for me
I've had this MBP for the past few days and it is...art for the sake of art, it will in no doubt nicely decorate interiors and serve as a great prop to sell other stuff, but it will not be making its way any time soon to a professional environment other as a nice add on. Again, too limited in connectivity and in factual reality the retina is nothing more than a gimmick.
This simply is not true. Reading through this thread "most" people are not praising the rMBP. There is a solid show of people who own this laptop that are highly critical of it. That's a fact.
1920x1200
Can somebody tell me, what happens on a external 1920x1200 Monitor? What's about the performance? I'm just interested. If possible real world experience. Thanks.
Can somebody tell me, what happens on a external 1920x1200 Monitor? What's about the performance? I'm just interested. If possible real world experience. Thanks.
Mountain lion doesn't seem to solve the problem
Take a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uixeNzzJBXQ
There is still seems to be an unacceptable amount of scrolling lag when using mountain lion (OSX 10.8).
I guess I have to cancel my order.
Best regards,
Peter
Take a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uixeNzzJBXQ
There is still seems to be an unacceptable amount of scrolling lag when using mountain lion (OSX 10.8).
I guess I have to cancel my order.
Best regards,
Peter
It's really strange because there are some rMBP owners outside who have totally different experiences, without any kind of lag at all.
Check these out for example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82sbPBH4yh8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JtAMwB1P9Y
My 6th tense says it's going to be a software problem in the end, and it's gonna be sorted out.
Don't! Trust me, give it a try and send it back if you still won't be happy at all.
To all MBP Retina owners out there:
I advise to download and use Google Canary instead of the crappy Safari browser: https://tools.google.com/dlpage/chromesxs/ and tell us your impressions.
For me the speed difference is like day and night.
Yes, of course. It's about scaling the content.
The iPad does not scale down after rendering into a big texture.
On the rMBP there are always two drawing operations involved.
Your thoughtful response replete with examples is very helpful. As is your polite tone. Douche.
I suppose the difference is in what one means by "mid-range." If you mean "there are better cards" then sure, the 650M in the rMBP is mid range. But that is not what sensible people mean by "mid-range." The phrase implies being in the "middle" - i.e. a similar amount of performance gained and lost above and below the card in question. There are only a few mobile cards that out perform the 650M with even remotely comparable power consumption profiles, and with the possible exception of the 680M (is that actually on the market yet? can it be jammed in a 1 inch case without melting?) they do so by maybe 20% (and I believe I read that the rMBP version is overclocked vs the stock card?). Not nothing, but hardly a vast improvement. Whereas the 650M substantially outperforms what would have been a top of the line mobile GPU just 18 months ago, substantially outperforms integrated graphics. To really get a big jump over the 650M, you are talking using desktop cards, or crossfire/sli with corresponding size, weight, and power consumption - i.e. 8 pound laptops that sound like hair dryers (oops, did I say 8 pounds? Try 12).
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It's in i7 and a 650M - it will drive a 1920x1200 just fine.
Reading your reply, bar the design flaw with the iPhone 4 which is resolved simply by not covering the one spot on the phone, your making excuses for things that do not exist.
I could sit here and proclaim every Apple product they have made is flawed if your thinking is that a first gen product fails because it's not as powerful as the next version or lacks the features of the next version.
It's the same thinking as you should always wait for the next version of something as it will be better and more powerful.
IMHO don't waste your time with a Retina and just go straight for the bog standard 15" MacBook Pro and maybe go for the Hi-Res option. IMHO I don't see the attraction to Retina and the technology becomes more pointless as the size of the screen increases resulting on one being further away from the screen to the point the that an iMac with Retina would be little more than d-ck waving rather than genuinely beneficial. I'm sure I'll be hanged for views but I really do see little in the way of real world benefit of Retina apart from maybe a niche audience but even then there is a price one pays for pushing all those pixels. For me, I have a MacBook Pro 15" 2011 model (see signature) and IMHO is is more than adequate for what I need it for - so as the old saying goes "don't believe the hype".
Some how I don't even believe you have one. Your simply saying you have one and it's rubbish just to make your point more valid. Anyone who has one has reported it as being a beautiful device to work on yet you think it's a gimmick. Surely if you really did think it was a gimmick you wouldn't of baught one in the first place. You just sound like a hater disguised as a customer. I'm not saying it's a perfect machine and I'm not defending its true shortcoming but I can't believe anyone would spend so much money on a RMBP and then refer to it as a decoration for an interior. A true customer would simply state it wasnt for them. State their reasons why and would be more subjective in their opinion.
No, you've missed the point. Of course every updated product is better than the previous. But with the total revision of a product, it happens really often that it involves some technology or solution (a higher res screen, hardware components with bigger power consumption, etc.) which are not in perfect harmony with the other components. These glitches, hardware/software shortcomings are almost always smoothed out in the first update.
You may not get the "shiny new feature" feeling, but the product is usually more mature.
In some ways, the rMBP really is a downgrade. It's most obvious when installed SwitchRes, switching to ACTUAL 1440x900 resolution, and seeing how smoothly you can browse the web. Of course then everything looks blurry/ugly, but surfing the web is more enjoyably smooth.
It's sad, really. A top-of-the-line MacBook Pro that can't browse the web satisfactorily.
My review unit has frustrated me in this regard since launch date.
It's sad, really. A top-of-the-line MacBook Pro that can't browse the web satisfactorily.
My review unit has frustrated me in this regard since launch date.
Obviously you are not an ex Counter Strike player. FPS, mouse polling rates, LCD response times, input lag, screen tearing, micro stutter all matter and all affect immersion in game.
i had a 2008 MBP 15 inch. Last summer i bought a 13' i7 Macbook pro for weight issues and wanted something a bit faster. Over the last year i have missed the size of the 15 inch screen and HATED the low resolution screen, and the internal graphics card lacked quartz composer support so i was limited at work.
So i wanted a light weight bigger screen with a better picture, and good graphics support. The rMBP seemed like a no brainier. I have one on order currently from the online store, and loaded it with ram. the higher end model.
I use QLAB for work (and some other theatre playback programs) as well as AUTO CAD LT.
i had read Auto cad was getting an update. I'm hoping that also means AutoCad LT will be getting an update. I however can not get ANY confirmation on that. As for Qlab, i can't have video being choppy on the output. that'd be unacceptable. Would that be affected by the problems people are describing here? basically, when i'm using this for work, it's hooked up to a projector for the video out. since the resolution on the projector is no where near the screen resolution, would that out be unaffected? (the rMBP screen would not be doing anything graphic intensive at the same time).
So i wanted a light weight bigger screen with a better picture, and good graphics support. The rMBP seemed like a no brainier. I have one on order currently from the online store, and loaded it with ram. the higher end model.
I use QLAB for work (and some other theatre playback programs) as well as AUTO CAD LT.
i had read Auto cad was getting an update. I'm hoping that also means AutoCad LT will be getting an update. I however can not get ANY confirmation on that. As for Qlab, i can't have video being choppy on the output. that'd be unacceptable. Would that be affected by the problems people are describing here? basically, when i'm using this for work, it's hooked up to a projector for the video out. since the resolution on the projector is no where near the screen resolution, would that out be unaffected? (the rMBP screen would not be doing anything graphic intensive at the same time).
Well thats not the impression i got, plenty did acknowledge there is a lag when browsing but the general impression i got was that the majority who actually own the RMBP are really enjoying their machine, check the thread 'rmbp buyers remorse' in the MBP forum, there is only 1 or 2 threads and concerns out of 4 pages.
I'll trial mine for 7 days when it arrives giving me plenty of time to return if i'm not happy, i wont be cancelling my order based on some assumptions from people who don't even own it..