Retina Macbook Pro Screens Really Dark?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by MrManwelo, Jul 12, 2012.

  1. MrManwelo macrumors member

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    Received my Retina Macbook Pro just 2 days ago and i really like it. Screen is great (except for how bad old apps look) but there is one problem that I've started to notice.

    Dark shades are indistinguishable on the screen, meaning dark scenes in videos are very, very dark.

    I tried this monitor black point check:http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/Calibration/monitor_black.htm

    Most screens should see a difference from 5 to 8. I don't see any difference until 14. Surely this is wrong? Is this the same for everyone with a Retina or is my hardware at fault?
     
  2. tillsbury macrumors 65816

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    If the screen is at full brightness I see it from 6, very clear from 7. But then switching back to this forum gives me eyestrain from the blinding white background!

    That's better, brightness now set at five blobs, which is fine for indoor use in the evening.
     
  3. MrManwelo thread starter macrumors member

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    i'm rocking full brightness...

    are you using a retina?
     
  4. theSeb macrumors 604

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    I always use my retinas when my eyes are open.
     
  5. Fiestaman macrumors regular

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    I agree. Single retina usage could lead to issues, I'd think.
     
  6. MrManwelo thread starter macrumors member

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    yes retina jokes.

    But seriously, can anyone with a Retina Macbook pro tell me what they're getting, please?
     
  7. theSeb macrumors 604

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    I am away from my rMBP so I can't test this, but I haven't notice the problems you describe in the week and a half I've been using it.

    Judging from Anandtech's review and the results for the LCD analysis for black levels and contrast, it seems that the rMBP does very well so black levels should not be a problem.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/6023/the-nextgen-macbook-pro-with-retina-display-review/5
     
  8. MrManwelo thread starter macrumors member

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    yes, i read the review as soon as it was published, so I was not expecting this to be a problem, but it really is. I was watching videos on YouTube running simultaneously on my RMBP and my 2009 13" MBP. The 2009 MBP has much better clarity in the dark areas.
     
  9. Teo Morabito macrumors member

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    full brightness on rMBP i can see after 9
    But their is lot's of light around the room
    I think if you watch a movie, the room will be dark, so you will see starting from 6 (will try tonight)
     
  10. markp99 macrumors member

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    Same for me, in my bright room, at full RMBP brightness, I start to see grey at "9". My Dell laptop was like 10 or 11.

    I cannot say I have noticed this to be an issue for me in any scenario so far.
     
  11. mattopotamus macrumors G5

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    do a search. A few weeks ago someone posted the same problem....not really sure how they fixed it.
     
  12. darwinian macrumors 6502a

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    Consider changing your gamma setting to see if you can find something you like. System preferences -> Displays -> Color -> Calibrate and turn advanced options on. Gamma is one of the last panels. I typically do the test under my normal lighting conditions, since that's how I'll be seeing the display the most. If you have a specific test (such as a movie or photo that you know how you want it to look), then keep it up in the background during the test and watch it change as you mess with the settings.
     
  13. cmChimera macrumors 68040

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    Can you post some links with the youtube videos you were watching? I can test this out a little later in the day.
     
  14. MrManwelo thread starter macrumors member

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    I was watching the Rudamental video 'Feel the Love' on Safari in 1080p on both. It's not a particularly dark video, but the darks were indistinguishable in some instances like at 2.40 it zooms in on the guys face. I could see definition in the beard on the old Macbook. It's just all black on the new Retina Pro.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oABEGc8Dus0
     
  15. killmoms macrumors 68040

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    Which old MacBook did you have, and what version of OS X was it running?
     
  16. MrManwelo thread starter macrumors member

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    Mid 2009 Macbook Pro 13.3" 2.53GHZ Intel Core 2 Duo with Lion 10.7.4
     
  17. Queen6 macrumors 603

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    Early 2008 15" MBP 2.4 Penryn (4.2) on Snow Leopard 10.6.8 visible at 9
    Late 2011 15" MBP 2.4 i7 (8.2) on Lion 10.7.4 visible at 6
    Mid 2012 15" rMBP 2.3 i7 (10.1) on Lion 10.7.4 visible at 7

    All tested same time at full brightness, same lighting conditions. FWIW my 2.3 base Retina is not much dimmer than my Late 2011 MBP.
     
  18. MrManwelo thread starter macrumors member

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    Better grab my jacket, looks like I'm off to the Apple store! (which btw is miles away)
     
  19. ixodes macrumors 601

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    Based on your post, I'd take it into an Apple Store.

    If you cannot do that, due to distance, then call them and ask to have it replaced. What you are reporting is most definitely not normal.

    Brightness on the MBPr is excellent.
     
  20. AlexBass macrumors regular

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    This probably won't help, but on my mid 2010 13" macbook pro I start seeing a difference at 3. Good 'old fashioned' apple tech, never lets you down!
     
  21. Aodhan, Jul 12, 2012
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    I know you were asking about Retinas, but I thought I would add that my non-Retina also has darker contrast. The backlighting is quite bright, but the contrast is too high, the colors look very rich and deeper, but darker than my 2009 MBP. I took it back and the replacement was exactly the same. So I changed the gamma from 2.2 to 1.8, problem gone.

    I just did that test on that link you provided. With my gamma at 1.8, I saw it at 5, at 2.2, I saw it at 9. So changing the gamma for me made a huge difference, but even at a gamma of 2.2, a 9 is within the normal range. I just prefer the 1.8 setting.
     
  22. Queen6 macrumors 603

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    I have the benefit of comparing my Retina, you can also try at the Apple store only the lighting will be far too bright, did you test as recommended in a dimly lit room, as there are a couple of 9`s in less than perfect conditions.
     
  23. MrManwelo thread starter macrumors member

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    Yes I tried it in complete darkness. It made a little difference, but only reduced it to about the 'step 12' mark.

    What did you get with your rMBP?

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    Putting the gamma to 1.8 i see it at Mark 8! It's an improvement.
     
  24. thatsfinebut, Jul 12, 2012
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    I just tried that test on my calibrated (using a Spyder3 Pro) rMBP and was able to see the grey box around 8 or 9. When I set my display to the default "Color LCD" profile that shipped with the computer, I couldn't see the grey box until around 14.

    Also, I'm not sure if computer browsers have any effect on the color of that animation. I was viewing the animation in the Chrome Beta the first time around. I just went back to the page and downloaded the blackramp.gif and viewed it in Preview. In fullscreen, I was able to see the grey box even earlier around 5 or 6.
     
  25. Pagga macrumors 6502

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    If not very scientific, one point is to simply allow for getting used to the retina. After a few days, other/older screens tend to look rather light and bright. I have a 17" from 2009, and the blacks aren´t very deep.
     

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