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It can. You need to remember the “cannot discern” is at arms length.
I can easily see the pixels on my 7+ at 6”.

Lol. I appreciate the layout definition between the two however you must have super duper eyes to see the individual pixels 6” away on the 7+ let alone on the X. I am considered to have one of the better eyesights than most and I CAN NOT distinguish individual pixels on the X.
 
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Lol. I appreciate the layout definition between the two however you must have super duper eyes to see the individual pixels 6” away on the 7+ let alone on the X. I am considered to have one of the better eyesights than most and I CAN NOT distinguish individual pixels on the X.

I didn’t say the X. I said the 7+. When I checked out the X in the local Apple Store I did not check for pixel visibility. It makes no difference to me in daily use. I just mentioned it as you claimed it was “impossible” and I can see the pixels on every model of iPhone I have owned (and iPad) since Retina was rolled out.

I do not own an X.
 
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I see, you like over saturated colors. Ask your roommate how he like the image distortion and glare on those edges?
You mean oversaturated.

It’s a she and it is set to adaptive.
Your claim for over saturated is incorrect in many cases.
For her settings, Adaptive in most instances is closer to Basic than Photo or Cinema.

Either way, in the Apple Store, the X screen looked inferior to the GS8.
MO YMMV.

Keep in mind, my phone is an iPhone 7+.
 
LED to OLED does have an effect because of the way the pixels are laid out. You need higher resolution with OLED to achieve the same perceived resolution of LED.

iPhone X resolution is effectively the same as the iPhone 8. Divide the resolution of the X, by 1.5. Specifically, the adjusted horizontal resolution of the X compared to the 8 is exactly the same, at 750.

However since the X has the need to calculate for more pixels, performance is down, compared to the 8 and 8+. This seems to be the only drawback to OLED, not to mention screen burn-in, etc.

I haven't gotten my phone yet, but from what I see on sample photos, I am not certain that OLED is truly any better than Apple's LCD, on the 8 and 8+. I know what people are saying, and they say it's near perfect. But on paper, OLED doesn't seem so good.

I am getting the X for all the above. The camera combined with the size.
 
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iPhone X resolution is effectively the same as the iPhone 8. Divide the resolution of the X, by 1.5. Specifically, the adjusted horizontal resolution of the X compared to the 8 is exactly the same, at 750.

However since the X has the need to calculate for more pixels, performance is down, compared to the 8 and 8+. This seems to be the only drawback to OLED, not to mention screen burn-in, etc.

I haven't gotten my phone yet, but from what I see on sample photos, I am not certain that OLED is truly any better than Apple's LCD, on the 8 and 8+. I know what people are saying, and they say it's near perfect. But on paper, OLED doesn't seem so good.

I am getting the X for all the above. The camera combined with the size.
I was amazed at the difference in clarity and contrast over other iPhones when I saw the iPhone X screen the first time.
 
iPhone X resolution is effectively the same as the iPhone 8. Divide the resolution of the X, by 1.5. Specifically, the adjusted horizontal resolution of the X compared to the 8 is exactly the same, at 750.

However since the X has the need to calculate for more pixels, performance is down, compared to the 8 and 8+. This seems to be the only drawback to OLED, not to mention screen burn-in, etc.

I haven't gotten my phone yet, but from what I see on sample photos, I am not certain that OLED is truly any better than Apple's LCD, on the 8 and 8+. I know what people are saying, and they say it's near perfect. But on paper, OLED doesn't seem so good.

I am getting the X for all the above. The camera combined with the size.
I own an iPhone X, compared to my 6S Plus and my friend’s 7, to my eyes the OLED screen on the X is hugely better.

I love it in every way and as an added benefit, it doesn’t cause me eye strain like my 6S Plus did.
 
It was pixel density rated at a specific distance for an average person.

If you bring the phone closer, or you have good vision, you exceed their minimum threshold.
 
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It was pixel density rated at a specific distance for an average person.

If you bring the phone closer, or you have good vision, you exceed their minimum threshold.

I’m not sure how Apple calculates viewing distances for screens, but there is a specific formula for calculating viewing distance with printed digital photography and artwork.

You measure diagonally from one corner to the opposite corner. Multiply that measurement by 1.5, and that is the viewing distance at which pixels should not be visible.

So for an 18x24 canvas print, the diagonal measurement would be 30”. Therefore 45” is the viewing distance from which you want to make sure no pixels in your printed piece are visible.

Using that rule of thumb from the print world:

iPhone X viewing distance 5.8” x 1.5 = 8.7”

iPhone 8 viewing distance 4.7” x 1.5 = 7.05”

IPhone 8 Plus viewing distance 5.5” x 1.5 = 8.25”

IPad Pro 10.5 viewing distance 10.5” x 1.5 = 15.75”

iPad Pro 12.9 viewing distance 12.9” x 1.5 = 19.35”

I’m not sure if Apple is following the rule of thumb, but if they are, individual pixels should not be visible to someone with 20/20 vision at those distances.
 
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I’m not sure how Apple calculates viewing distances for screens, but there is a specific formula for calculating viewing distance with printed digital photography and artwork.

You measure diagonally from one corner to the opposite corner. Multiply that measurement by 1.5, and that is the viewing distance at which pixels should not be visible.

So for an 18x24 canvas print, the diagonal measurement would be 30”. Therefore 45” is the viewing distance from which you want to make sure no pixels in your printed piece are visible.

Using that rule of thumb from the print world:

iPhone X viewing distance 5.8” x 1.5 = 8.7”

iPhone 8 viewing distance 4.7” x 1.5 = 7.05”

IPhone 8 Plus viewing distance 5.5” x 1.5 = 8.25”

IPad Pro 10.5 viewing distance 10.5” x 1.5 = 15.75”

iPad Pro 12.9 viewing distance 12.9” x 1.5 = 19.35”

I’m not sure if Apple is following the rule of thumb, but if they are, individual pixels should not be visible to someone with 20/20 vision at those distances.

From a previous SJ article:
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What is a Retina display?
Retina is Apple's trademark for a display so sharp that the human eye is unable to distinguish between pixels at a typical viewing distance. As Steve Jobs said: "It turns out there’s a magic number right around 300 pixels per inch, that when you hold something around to 10 to 12 inches away from your eyes, is the limit of the human retina to differentiate the pixels." Given a large enough viewing distance, all displays eventually become "retina."
"

This is an older article on Retina but does a great job on defining the basics. (ARTICLE)
 
From a previous SJ article:
"
What is a Retina display?
Retina is Apple's trademark for a display so sharp that the human eye is unable to distinguish between pixels at a typical viewing distance. As Steve Jobs said: "It turns out there’s a magic number right around 300 pixels per inch, that when you hold something around to 10 to 12 inches away from your eyes, is the limit of the human retina to differentiate the pixels." Given a large enough viewing distance, all displays eventually become "retina."
"

This is an older article on Retina but does a great job on defining the basics. (ARTICLE)
So if Apple is saying 300 ppi viewing distance is 10” - 12”, the 458 ppi of iPhone X could well be accounting for a closer viewing distance (i.e. 8.7”). The 326ppi of 8 and 401 of 8 Plus would also shorten the viewing distance.

It’s interesting they originally mentioned 300ppi, as that is the standard resolution for printed material (magazines and books)using an offset press.
 
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So if Apple is saying 300 ppi viewing distance is 10” - 12”, the 458 ppi of iPhone X could well be accounting for a closer viewing distance (i.e. 8.7”). The 326ppi of 8 and 401 of 8 Plus would also shorten the viewing distance.

It’s interesting they originally mentioned 300ppi, as that is the standard resolution for printed material (magazines and books)using an offset press.

Apple never mentions PPI in regards to Super Retina

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208191


The Super Retina display in iPhone X was engineered by Apple to meet our incredibly high standards. We believe this is the best OLED display that has ever shipped in a smartphone while offering the best color accuracy in the industry. The 5.8-inch Super Retina display has incredible contrast at a 1,000,000 to 1 contrast ratio, high brightness, and a cinema standard wide color gamut. Together with the best system color management, colors are precisely calibrated at all times to deliver an optimal viewing experience.

High Dynamic Range
Super Retina also features High Dynamic Range (HDR), which supports a broad range of dark and light areas in photos and video. This allows you to see from deep true blacks to pure bright whites while retaining dramatic nuances in between. Photos look more vivid, and everything you watch in Dolby Vision or HDR10 is more stunning than ever.
 
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