Not really..everyone who bought the orange pros… that novelty will possibly wear off in a few weeks (or after Halloween) as well and they will be bored of their color choice 🤷🏻♂️
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iPhone Air Return Air and go back to Pro(Max)??
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The actual math doesn't agree with you unfortunately. Maybe it's something subjective.
iPhone Air: 2.51 g/cm³
iPhone 17: 2.08 g/cm³
iPhone 14 Pro Max: 2.45 g/cm³
I’m still undecided. I love how thin and light it is.
The speaker is a non-issue to me, I was honestly shocked to learn how many of you use phone speakers, but guess I’m in the minority 🤣
Battery life is fine. I made it from 6:30am->9:30pm yesterday (including an hour of watching F1 qualifying). At 9:30 I hit 10% and put on the battery pack - phone feels similar to pro max with the battery pack on.
Today I’m currently at 68% after 8 hours off charge. I’m making a point not to put it on the charger, but it’s really a non issue in day to day life. I have a MagSafe charger at my desk and wireless charging in my car. Battery isn’t going to be an issue, and those one-off days when it will be I’ve got the battery pack.
The camera is going to be the real test. Haven’t felt a need for other lenses yet, but I suspect it’s coming - I have a young kid.
Going to give it until Friday before deciding. If I had to guess I probably return it, but I am less sure about that now than I was when I ordered it, and I’m definitely going to be really annoyed about the thickness and weight if I do.
The speaker is a non-issue to me, I was honestly shocked to learn how many of you use phone speakers, but guess I’m in the minority 🤣
Battery life is fine. I made it from 6:30am->9:30pm yesterday (including an hour of watching F1 qualifying). At 9:30 I hit 10% and put on the battery pack - phone feels similar to pro max with the battery pack on.
Today I’m currently at 68% after 8 hours off charge. I’m making a point not to put it on the charger, but it’s really a non issue in day to day life. I have a MagSafe charger at my desk and wireless charging in my car. Battery isn’t going to be an issue, and those one-off days when it will be I’ve got the battery pack.
The camera is going to be the real test. Haven’t felt a need for other lenses yet, but I suspect it’s coming - I have a young kid.
Going to give it until Friday before deciding. If I had to guess I probably return it, but I am less sure about that now than I was when I ordered it, and I’m definitely going to be really annoyed about the thickness and weight if I do.
Are you sure you are calculating 17’s density properly? Please note: base 17 is both smaller and heavier. Air is 165g in weight. Base 17 is 177g.
Edit: I see what’s going on. You’re going by Apple’s published dimensions without considering the plateau so Air will come out to have a significantly lower overall volume compared to base 17. Account for the plateau, which adds basically another 3mm of protrusion or so, and you’ll arrive at the right density for Air.
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Yes, definitely. The math is simple, just take the weight and divide by (height x width x depth).
Air being less dense than base 17 doesn't pass the sanity test. Apple is packing as much stuff into as little volume as possible to make it thin. How could Air possibly be less dense than base 17?
I edited my post above. If you’re going by Apple’s published numbers, you may arrive at the wrong volume for Air.
Add the plateau and you’ll get the right volume.
Hell no! After having the iPhone Air for 3 days and feeling it in hand I can never go back to a Pro Max iPhone. I’m coming from an iPhone 15 Pro Max and I don’t miss it one bit. The 2x camera on the Air is fine for me and the battery is as good as the 16 Pro. Also, the one speaker in the Air is actually better than I expected and for YouTube etc is is more than adequate. Any serious listening for movies or music you should be wearing AirPods anyway regardless of what iPhone you have.
I couldn’t be happier with the Air. Exceeded my expectations.
I couldn’t be happier with the Air. Exceeded my expectations.
Plateau only adds about to the 5,400 mm³ equation. It's 3.3 mm in depth, about 60 mm wide, and 30 mm height.
It drops the density to about 2.3 g/cm³. The Air is still more dense than base 17 of 2.08 g/cm³.
Again, it doesn't pass the sanity test the Air could possibly be less dense than base 17.
I went with the air for 48 hours then went with the 17PM. Main issue is battery. For light moderate users - yes they’ll get all day battery life. But push it a little and I ran out early afternoon both days.
If they ever make a 6.9” Air I would buy that. Just need a bit more juice.
But loved the device just wish it would have lasted longer.
If they ever make a 6.9” Air I would buy that. Just need a bit more juice.
But loved the device just wish it would have lasted longer.
If your always about light the Promax is never that
Anyway regardless of that the air will have limitations compared to other phones and certainly the pros
I tested the air in the shop and the camera appeared ok, until I took the same pictures on the pro. Zooming in on the detail it wasn't there and put it 100% off the air....Its years behind
The standard pro is the best middle ground this year
If your always about light the Promax is never that
Anyway regardless of that the air will have limitations compared to other phones and certainly the pros
I tested the air in the shop and the camera appeared ok, until I took the same pictures on the pro. Zooming in on the detail it wasn't there and put it 100% off the air....Its years behind
The standard pro is the best middle ground this year
Agree with you about the close-up photo quality, but I think the best middle ground this year is actually a standard 17.
Actually, the plateau is a bit more than the dimensions you’re quoting. The thickness of the phone with the plateau is actually 9.7mm from my caliper, which means it’s closer to a bit over 4mm in thickness. With the camera lens, it’s actually almost 12mm in overall thickness even.
Also the plateau is more precisely 71mm x 32mm at the base.
I measured base 17 too and it is more consistent across the whole body. Only the camera bit protrudes out.
Either way, it could be like you said: real numbers are not supporting my subjective experience. Air honestly does feel like it’s just a tiny bit lighter than base 17 to me. Maybe it’s a combination of seeing the bigger screen and thinking it should be much heavier than it actually is.
Yeah the close-up pictures are a bit of a problem. Using the 2x instead somewhat solves it though.
It's a hard one and yeah the standard 17 is good but just for a little extra the pro has it all. For many people the standard 17 is perfect but there is still some pro features and the ultimate phone is the pro
Battery, camera
Shouldn’t you be out celebrating? Not that I don’t appreciate the iPhone commentary 🤣
In case of the base 17, fine you have a point however in case of the Air,. for the majority the cost isn’t the issue. People aren’t buying the Air because they can’t afford the Pro, they’re buying the Air because the Pro is becoming increasingly unwieldy and as the case of this generation of phones , unsightly.
I got a 17PM to replace my 13PM because of the cameras.
If the Air had 2 cameras, I would have strongly considered it.
As for you, having young kid(s), no way I'd do with a single camera nowadays. my kids are approaching their 30s, I have thousands of photos from when they were growing up and I'd have even more if an iPhone with 3 cameras would have existed back then.
Of course we are all different, but you might regret it later in your life going with the Air and not a Pro/ProMax for those precious moments, they don't come back ... my 2 cents
Finally someone who tells it how it is. I've seen far too many comments from people hating on Air and saying we only say it's the best phone out of this years line up because we can't afford the Pro models. Which is of course absolutely bollocks. Most of my past iPhones have been Pro's over the years. The price isn't the problem/issue.
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I’m still playing with the Air and 17 Pro and can’t make up my mind.. Im coming from a 15 Pro Max and was already willing to reduce the size so I’m enjoying the 17 Pro, I find it so easy to hold and use it on one hand. Regarding the Air, is lighter and thinner but since is slightly taller doesn’t feel the same.. my main issue is the camera downgrade as I miss the wide lens/telephoto
The Accessory Design Guidelines give the plateau’s thickness as 3.03 mm, which makes for 8.67 mm total without the lens. With the lens it’s 11.32 mm. It sounds like your plateau measurement is off by 1 mm.
Possibly a more precise way to measure the volume is to submerge the phone into water and see how much water it displaces. For the iPhone 13 mini, this is giving me a density of 1.88 g/cm³ (75 grams of water displaced versus the phone weighing 141 grams). The “naive” calculation based on the specs cuboid would have given 2.18 g/cm³.
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