Returned ATI Radeon HD 4850 iMac. Now What?

Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by iMac4850User, Apr 21, 2009.

  1. iMac4850User macrumors newbie

    Apr 19, 2009
    I don't know about the rest of you, but after paying $2000+ and waiting more than a month for a totally unusable iMac, I was absolutely livid!

    I called Apple and raised hell. They are taking everything on my order back, not charging me a restocking fee, letting me keep the $100 printer rebate check and giving me a $100 Apple Store Gift Card.

    Now, what Mac should I get that's not totally broken?

    nVidia Geforce 9800 iMac?
    These are going to be two months old soon, but that's not too bad considering Apple probably won't come out with new iMacs until next year. Also, I haven't seen an uproar about these being broken. That's a major plus!

    ATI Radeon HD 4870 Mac Pro?
    Probably way too big and powerful for me, but I could try to MAKE room for this monster and you can never have enough power! Also, I've only heard good things about these machines!

    Wait for next round of iMacs?
    I could probably buy the Mac Box Set for my iMac G5 and get another year out of it until Apple updates the iMacs again. That $100 printer rebate check and $100 Apple Store Gift Card they gave me would more than pay for it! I actually miss Leopard and iLife and iWork '09 now that I'm back on my old iMac.
  2. js81 macrumors 65816


    Dec 31, 2008
    If you're happy with your G5, max the memory and keep it. If not, get the iMac with the GT120 or GT130. The 9600M is integrated and steals system memory...

    Actually, scratch that recommendation - if you're OK with it, get a refurb with the ATI 2600HD or nVidia 8800. Yeah, that'd be better and save a few bucks, too. :)
  3. Demosthenes X macrumors 68000

    Demosthenes X

    Oct 21, 2008
    Unless space is a major issue, refurb (last-gen) Mac Pro. Should be able to find one for $2000, and you'll get loads of power and expandability.
  4. avihappy macrumors 6502


    Nov 15, 2006
    I would probably go with a GT130 iMac, since the Geforce 9800 iMac is an option for you. It's only 1 step down from the 4850...
  5. clyde2801 macrumors 601


    Mar 6, 2008
    In the land of no hills and red dirt.
    The First Mac Commandment

    I've got an old school mac friend of mine, who has been using them exclusively since the challenger exploded, give me what he calls 'the first mac commandment':

    Thou shalt NOT buy a revision A.

    Nice to know that some things in this world are remaining constant.
  6. J&JPolangin macrumors 68030

    Jul 5, 2008
    Thule GL @ the TOW
    #7 took the words right out of my keyboard...
  7. Jack Flash macrumors 65816

    May 8, 2007
  8. neiltc13 macrumors 68040


    May 27, 2006
    What do you want to use the computer for and why does it have to be a Mac?

    It looks like you need some serious GPU power, so you're either a 3D modeller a gamer or a movie editor. If you're in either of the first two groups, I'd skip Apple's products entirely.
  9. peskaa macrumors 68020


    Mar 13, 2008
    London, UK
    How is the 24" iMac a Revision A product? We've had Alu. iMacs for a few years now, and Apple have been using a mix of ATi and NV GPUs for ages. There's nothing new about them beyond a particular model of GPU.

    This is Revision C or something. Crazy for them to be going wrong at this point.
  10. bokdol macrumors 6502a


    Jul 23, 2002
    sorry am i missing something? when did they make a 9800 imac?
  11. ritzuk macrumors member

    Dec 1, 2005
    That iMac G5 you have is a really nice computer. I've had one for 3.5 years and although I just bought a Macbook Pro, I actually kind of miss it. The screen is nice, it's quiet, reliable...

    I'd consider maxing the RAM out to 2.5GB and buying that software package...
  12. iMac4850User thread starter macrumors newbie

    Apr 19, 2009
    I would have loved mine too had it not frozen every ten minutes. :(

    That's what I should have done in the first place. I must have too much patience.

    I couldn't agree more, this is absolutely insane and totally unacceptable.

    The iMacs basically have nVidia Geforce 9400m, 9600m, and 9800m. The whole GT 120 and GT 130 nonsense is nVidia's relabeling and Apple's marketing at work. Apple bought an absolute ton of mobile nVidia chips and they are in almost every Mac Apple makes.

    If I had it my way, computer manufacturers would be required by law to list full and accurate specifications for every computer they sell. I'm really fed up with Apple's outright deceitful labeling of the iMac's graphics. It's really gotten out of hand.
  13. SaSaSushi macrumors 68040


    Aug 8, 2007
    Takamatsu, Japan
    A new video card does not a Revision A product make, sorry.

    Trying to blame the end user in any way, shape or form for the problems they're experiencing with their machines is ridiculous and at any rate this is actually the third revision of the aluminum iMac.

    My iMac is the mid-2007 Radeon 2600HD model, the first aluminum machine and maybe you could call it 'Revision A'. I bought it on the date of its release in August, 2007. This is the same machine that many many users experienced lockups and freezing with for months until Apple released a firmware update that resolved it. I dodged a bullet in that my own iMac was not one of the 'freezers' but I surely felt for those who were not so lucky and dealt with the same sort of crap many new 4850 iMac owners are now dealing with.

    Let's blame who is at fault here, shall we?
  14. bokdol macrumors 6502a


    Jul 23, 2002
    thanks for the info. yeah i had no idea. about the 120 and the 130. i was wondering where they came from.
  15. eXan macrumors 601


    Jan 10, 2005
    9600 is dedicated, 9400 is integrated.
  16. SnowLeopard2008 macrumors 604


    Jul 4, 2008
    Silicon Valley
    I don't see how it's Apple's marketing at work. nVidia makes these chips remember? And why return? Couldn't you get a replacement iMac?
  17. iMac4850User thread starter macrumors newbie

    Apr 19, 2009
    Apple is bad in general about telling customers what the graphics really are in their iMacs. That coupled with nVidia's recent relabeling nonsense has made the specs of the current crop of iMacs the most confusing yet.

    I really don't have the time or energy to go through this again if the replacement doesn't work. The return itself has even been taxing because I'm flying blind with Apple's Online Order Status being broken.

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  18. Luba macrumors 65816


    Apr 22, 2009
    Sorry, but what does that mean, Don't buy revision A??

  19. xhambonex macrumors 6502a

    Apr 17, 2008
    Revision A is just the first model (revision of a product) First MBA, first iPhone, etc. Basically just a new product or the first time with new hardware.
  20. iMac4850User thread starter macrumors newbie

    Apr 19, 2009
    I tried going back to my old iMac G5, but I'm addicted to that 24" screen! It's just so big and gorgeous that it makes everything else look like crap! I ended up getting a refurbished 2008 top of the line iMac for just $1600! With the 3.06 GHz CPU and nVidia Geforce 8800, it feels just as fast as the one I returned, doesn't freeze up every ten minutes and cost $600 less! Absolutely no problems with this one yet and I hope it stays that way.
  21. MacLadybug macrumors 6502a


    Jun 6, 2008

    I actually heard a deep "Moses/Charleton Heston" like voice as I read it!!! And you are right. Face it, we're all Mac-addicts. When we have to talk about something that is coming months before it actually get here, and/or wondering what the next best or biggest and greatest will be do you really think we have the strength, the will power to wait for the next revision!!!! If it was only that easy.
  22. Gregintosh macrumors 68000

    Jan 29, 2008
    I do not believe this is a "Rev A" product, as others have pointed out it is the third iteration of the aluminum imac. Although I guess you can say since the entire motherboard is different due to the nVidia chipset, it MAY qualify.

    But in any case, I wouldn't say don't buy a "Rev A", just wait a few weeks until it hits the users and check forums for any common emerging threads.

    I believe with most epidemic issues, they were spotted and reported en masse in the first month, and in the case of this 4850 thing in the first few days, after users got their hands on it.

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