returned mac mini 2018 after using half an hour

xh116

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Ordered a mac mini i7+8gb+512ssd+10G ethernet and upgraded ram with 16gx2 after unboxing.
My display is dell U2718Q 4K.

Advantages: small and beautiful, enough ports for external devices and a power enough CPU.
Disadvantage: s.h.i.t.t.y GPU. launchpad lagging, folders in launchpad lagging. even stuck a little while (scale to 3008x1692 look like)

I know 3008x1692 scaling means 6016x3384. but apple advertised it support 1x5k+1x4k display.
Do not want to add an egpu, I want mac "mini" !

So returned.
 

gmccj

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did you not read reviews of the performance prior to purchasing?
I bought a refurbished 2018 (i7/32GB/ 1 TB SSD) and running two 27 inch monitors (ACD Thunderbolt and Dell U2713HM) at 2560 x 1440) it seems very "snappy" (much better than my 2014 mini). Before buying, I played with the 2018 mini at the Apple store running a 5k monitor and that too seemed fast. My 2014 has only 8GB and that is used up with only a few programs open so I doubt 8GB is sufficient for running any monitor at a resolution higher than HD, especially if the display is scaled.
 

xh116

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did you not read reviews of the performance prior to purchasing?
Read, so upgraded i7 with 1.2GHz of graphics frequency rather than i5 with 1.1 GHz and changed 32gb ram that other users tested better performance. but not read performance is still bad.

Mac mini can be perfect if equipping with Kaby Lake-G solution.
Anyway, I think Cook do not want Mac Mini be a threaten to Mac Pro coming in 2019 and wanna sell more black magic eGPUs...
 

jimthing

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I just bought a maxed out 2018 one (though did the 64Gb ram myself, obviously!), works fine with one of my LG 5K UltraFine displays.

Go figure.

EDIT:
Apple even use the the LG 5K UF on their Mac Mini welcome screen...
Screenshot 2019-04-06 at 22.35.03.png
 
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mattwestside

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Read, so upgraded i7 with 1.2GHz of graphics frequency rather than i5 with 1.1 GHz and changed 32gb ram that other users tested better performance. but not read performance is still bad.

Mac mini can be perfect if equipping with Kaby Lake-G solution.
Anyway, I think Cook do not want Mac Mini be a threaten to Mac Pro coming in 2019 and wanna sell more black magic eGPUs...
It's a really great computer with a small footprint and should tackle most daily tasks without issue. However the value prop changes entirely if you have to hook a huge ugly eGPU up to it in order to get halfway decent gaming performance, or remove bottlenecks that certain graphics-intensive apps require.

For me, I wanted an aesthetically tidy desktop setup and fell for the tantalizing Geekbench scores that have been tossed around the internet. What I didn't realize until after buying one was that my use case really needs stronger graphics performance, and that's reflected in the Mini's less-than-stellar Geekbench compute scores.
 

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macdos

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Non-integer ”scaling” will always be wasted GPU power, and will tax *any* GPU.

Ordered a mac mini i7+8gb+512ssd+10G ethernet and upgraded ram with 16gx2 after unboxing.
My display is dell U2718Q 4K.

Advantages: small and beautiful, enough ports for external devices and a power enough CPU.
Disadvantage: s.h.i.t.t.y GPU. launchpad lagging, folders in launchpad lagging. even stuck a little while (scale to 3008x1692 look like)

I know 3008x1692 scaling means 6016x3384. but apple advertised it support 1x5k+1x4k display.
Do not want to add an egpu, I want mac "mini" !

So returned.
 

xh116

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Do people really make forum accounts just to let everyone know that they bought a computer then returned it? I have to call BS on this one LMAO
Just a review of MM i7+32G ram+512 ssd has bad performance with 4K display scaling at 3008x1692.
Anybody planning to buy and want it to be working at this setting can forget it.
 
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macdos

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Just a review of Ford Dumpster T4 has bad performance driving with second gear on the freeway. Anybody planning to buy and want it to be working at this setting can forget it.

If you have a 4K, use 4K (2160p) or 2k (1080p), not 0.78333…x native. That is insane no matter how you twist it, just like using second gear on the highway.

Just a review of MM i7+32G ram+512 ssd has bad performance with 4K display scaling at 3008x1692.
Anybody planning to buy and want it to be working at this setting can forget it.
 

xh116

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Understand. but it is somehow ridiculous.
2160P has too small text.
1080P has too big text.
Both are bad experience.

the machine should give us convenience.
but not forcing ourself to compromise for the machine.
 

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Just a review of Ford Dumpster T4 has bad performance driving with second gear on the freeway. Anybody planning to buy and want it to be working at this setting can forget it.

If you have a 4K, use 4K (2160p) or 2k (1080p), not 0.78333…x native. That is insane no matter how you twist it, just like using second gear on the highway.
The Ford Dumpster I bought yesterday didn't have a second gear. I'm definitely returning it!
 
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TonyK

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We tested a 4K monitor on a MM 2018 at the Apple store. In fact, the same make/model as we are waiting for now.

My wife, with her restricted vision, was able to scale the display to something very usable. The 4K allows for fuller rendering and shadows over 2K.

Her MM is an i7 with 32GB of memory and 1TB SSD for storage. It allows all of her music to be on the SSD and for her to do her stuff.

It is deathly silent which is a blessing over the old 2009MP and the ambient fan noise.