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It's a possibility that I'm gonna purchase an iPhone before the end of August. I haven't used an iPhone since the XS MAX so I'm way behind. I'm wondering about a few things and I hope you guys can answer these questions for me.

1. I want to get a used iPhone. What is the oldest usable iPhone that I can activate and use the app store/get updates? I was looking on Swappa at used iPhone 11's & 13's. Are those too old?

2. Unfortunately I'm currently stuck in Texas and I'm worried about the stupid SB2420 rule. I would have to make a new iCloud account as I believe my old one was closed. I'm not submitting my ID to download apps. Is there a way to bypass this? Can you sideload apps?

3. I remember having hell getting my music onto my old iPhone. I have close to 10K songs that I want to put on my phone. I currently use a windows 10 laptop so I need to know if there is a way to get all my music on the phone without using iTunes or apple music?
 
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It's a possibility that I'm gonna purchase an iPhone before the end of August. I haven't used an iPhone since the XS MAX so I'm way behind. I'm wondering about a few things and I hope you guys can answer these questions for me.

1. I want to get a used iPhone. What is the oldest usable iPhone that I can activate and use the app store/get updates? I was looking on Swappa at used iPhone 11's & 13's. Are those too old?

2. Unfortunately I'm currently stuck in Texas and I'm worried about the stupid SB2420 rule. I would have to make a new iCloud account as I believe my old one was closed. I'm not submitting my ID to download apps. Is there a way to bypass this? Can you sideload apps?

3. I remember having hell getting my music onto my old iPhone. I have close to 10K songs that I want to put on my phone. I currently use a windows 10 laptop so I need to know if there is a way to get all my music on the phone without using iTunes or apple music?
1. Right now, iPhone 11 and newer are receiving updates. I would suggest a 13 because I owned one of those bad boys and they are awesome. However, you may consider going modern - 17e new is only $599 repeat $599 (did I mention $599?) and the ui is not that much different than your old XS.
2. I live in Texas (lol guess which city?) and no ID was necessary to open a new iCloud account about 6 months ago. Disclaimer: I did it at an Apple Store however and they saw my grey hair.
3. Music from PC to iPhone without using iTunes or Apple Music is still a real pain. I did it successfully using an app available at the app store - but I can't remember its name! If you search for "music downloader" or "music player" on the App Store there are a lot of apps that make a lot of promises. Whether they work or not is iffy, and may take some frustrating tries. I sure wish you had a MacBook instead of a PC; from my Neo to my Eye Phone (5 or 6 hundred songs) was a piece of cake. Idea: After you accomplish opening the Apple account, I wonder if you can upload music from the PC into iCloud and go from there? Dunno.

Good luck!
 
1. Right now, iPhone 11 and newer are receiving updates. I would suggest a 13 because I owned one of those bad boys and they are awesome. However, you may consider going modern - 17e new is only $599 repeat $599 (did I mention $599?) and the ui is not that much different than your old XS.
2. I live in Texas (lol guess which city?) and no ID was necessary to open a new iCloud account about 6 months ago. Disclaimer: I did it at an Apple Store however and they saw my grey hair.
3. Music from PC to iPhone without using iTunes or Apple Music is still a real pain. I did it successfully using an app available at the app store - but I can't remember its name! If you search for "music downloader" or "music player" on the App Store there are a lot of apps that make a lot of promises. Whether they work or not is iffy, and may take some frustrating tries. I sure wish you had a MacBook instead of a PC; from my Neo to my Eye Phone (5 or 6 hundred songs) was a piece of cake. Idea: After you accomplish opening the Apple account, I wonder if you can upload music from the PC into iCloud and go from there? Dunno.

Good luck!
Just to add - I would rule out the iPhone 11. The oldest iPhone to support 5G is the 12. I consider a 5G capable phone essential today.
 
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It's a possibility that I'm gonna purchase an iPhone before the end of August. I haven't used an iPhone since the XS MAX so I'm way behind. I'm wondering about a few things and I hope you guys can answer these questions for me.

1. I want to get a used iPhone. What is the oldest usable iPhone that I can activate and use the app store/get updates? I was looking on Swappa at used iPhone 11's & 13's. Are those too old?

2. Unfortunately I'm currently stuck in Texas and I'm worried about the stupid SB2420 rule. I would have to make a new iCloud account as I believe my old one was closed. I'm not submitting my ID to download apps. Is there a way to bypass this? Can you sideload apps?

3. I remember having hell getting my music onto my old iPhone. I have close to 10K songs that I want to put on my phone. I currently use a windows 10 laptop so I need to know if there is a way to get all my music on the phone without using iTunes or apple music?
Here's my 5 cent....

1. If you don't have a pile of old lightning charging cables laying around, get a version that has USB-C (iphone 15 and above).
2. If you do have a pile of charging cables or can get a hold of them cheap (people are giving them away since Apple moved to USB-C) go for iPhone 14, it has 6GB of RAM (12 and 13 has 4) which will make it handle later OS better.
 
I'd start with the 12. That's the first model that supports wireless charging, a feature I've come to love.
 
3. I have some mp3s that I put in iCloud and play using VLC. Works fine but no Siri voice control. I primarily use Apple Music so I never spent the time to see if or how this could be improved.
 
1. Right now, iPhone 11 and newer are receiving updates. I would suggest a 13 because I owned one of those bad boys and they are awesome. However, you may consider going modern - 17e new is only $599 repeat $599 (did I mention $599?) and the ui is not that much different than your old XS.
2. I live in Texas (lol guess which city?) and no ID was necessary to open a new iCloud account about 6 months ago. Disclaimer: I did it at an Apple Store however and they saw my grey hair.
3. Music from PC to iPhone without using iTunes or Apple Music is still a real pain. I did it successfully using an app available at the app store - but I can't remember its name! If you search for "music downloader" or "music player" on the App Store there are a lot of apps that make a lot of promises. Whether they work or not is iffy, and may take some frustrating tries. I sure wish you had a MacBook instead of a PC; from my Neo to my Eye Phone (5 or 6 hundred songs) was a piece of cake. Idea: After you accomplish opening the Apple account, I wonder if you can upload music from the PC into iCloud and go from there? Dunno.

Good luck!
Whoa they make you submit an ID? WOW
 
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