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What I find surprising is that there are people out there who need up to 3 hours to drink a cup of coffee. It's almost as though they don't like coffee.
I have never used it for 3 hours for 1 cup of coffee but have used it for 2-3 hours for 2-3 cups. I keep the charging unit in the kitchen. I drink the coffee at my desk which is in another room
 
Somehow grandparents don't strike me as the target audience for a $200 mug...
My father who is my kids grandpa uses it as we bought it for him. he loves it. While it was a gift he also drives a $350,000 car so it isn't an affordability issue.
 
I'm thinking about buying one for my wife, who loves coffee but would never spend more than $20 on a travel mug. After she uses it a few days, I'll ask her how she likes it. I'm sure the answer will be, "Nothing special, but it's OK."

Then I'll ask her how much she thinks it cost. 🤣
If she loves coffee and is particular about the temperature (meaning she likes it hot and only hot) then she will love it.
 
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Can I just check here?

Many years ago, I used to take milk in my tea and coffee. And, well before it became cold, the milk scum would form, and the texture of the drink became pretty disgusting. Indeed, I used to drink it too hot in order to avoid that!

That was a part of the reason I gave up milk in hot drinks. And, once I had done so, I realised how much nicer they were without (assuming good choices of the actual tea or coffee).

Does anyone use an Ember, or a Burnout, and take milk? Does the drink really stay acceptable?
I always put cream in my coffee and it does keep it perfect as long as you don't let it sit too long(meaning you are actually drinking it) as it can form a film. I tend to drink a lot of sips frequently so it isn't an issue for me. One issue I have is adding cram.milk always lowers the temperature too much for me and this fixes that problem.
 
Why? Because you are working and it is inefficient to stop and grind/brew beans every time you want a cup of coffee; kept in an airtight container three hours old coffee is not disgusting. It is far better than packaged-last-year Maxwell house, Keurig or similar.
Any coffee worth drinking is drank immediately after brewing, and it takes 10 seconds at most. Crema won’t survive more than a few minutes anyway, sealed container or not. If drinking it takes longer than a few seconds, then it’s just dirty water and not coffee.
 
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My father who is my kids grandpa uses it as we bought it for him. he loves it. While it was a gift he also drives a $350,000 car so it isn't an affordability issue.
I never said it was an affordability issue — although since it was a gift from you, I'm not sure how that's even relevant. What I meant is that older people had a different approach to what's needed and what's a dumb waste of money. I realize I'm generalizing and that the generation of grandparents is now different as well. :)
 
I never said it was an affordability issue — although since it was a gift from you, I'm not sure how that's even relevant. What I meant is that older people had a different approach to what's needed and what's a dumb waste of money. I realize I'm generalizing and that the generation of grandparents is now different as well. :)
You are contradicting yourself.
 
If you're not sure you can explain it, and you have no insight into whether the product does what it should be doing, why are you writing about it?

The first part is specific to Find My and my attempt to be a little amusing (didn't work!) and the second to coffee. As I go on to explain, I am certainly experienced with hot beverages that are NOT coffee and felt that I understood the product well enough to evaluate it and write a review. Apologies if it wasn't up to your expectations.
 
Do “Find My” devices have the exact same functionality as an AirTag? Do they use the “find my” network from stranger iPhones and send that location back up to the cloud?
 
I'm thinking about buying one for my wife, who loves coffee but would never spend more than $20 on a travel mug. After she uses it a few days, I'll ask her how she likes it. I'm sure the answer will be, "Nothing special, but it's OK."

Then I'll ask her how much she thinks it cost. 🤣
Spend less than half as much and get the Burnout instead. Mine arrived this morning and testing shows it to be well made and performing as advertised. Without the vendor-suggested preheating my test water was 180F at time zero, 155F at 2 minutes (ideal drinking temp for my taste), 144F at 5 minutes, 135F at 30 minutes, 134F at 120 minutes and 130F at 180 minutes, 127F after 4.5 hours (bottom range of good drinking temp for my taste, but still good); and the test is still running.

Some of the water was unscientifically poured out to simulate the effect of drinking some of the coffee over time. ;~)
 
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UK folks with a good memory - wasn’t it some fancy mug like this, maybe the predecessor Ember 1, that got a bit of media attention and backlash against Rishi Sunak - the chancellor of the exchequer at the time (now prime minister) - when some PR photo showed one on his desk? Apparently it was a gift from his wife but there was some sniping about the cost and how spending so much on an item like that made him look so out of touch with most people’s circumstances.
That was an ember mug - which probably cost 0.000000000001% of the interest he earned on his wealth that day !
 
No clue where I fall but total net worth is above $5MM. Family net worth above $20MM. Certain items I could not care less if they were brand names. I would say if you saw me and how I dress you would think it is normal at best. House and car well above. Jewelry - little to none. I have to laugh at Zuckerberg. Look at his wife. I wouldn't walk in public with her any day of the week. He has bad taste. So be it.

No one knows I use this mug as it is used in my house. It simply provides me a comfort and efficiency that I desire. For $135 it is a no brainer. My wife hates this mug. She likes her coffee lukewarm and will spend 3-5 hours drinking the same cup. Terrible to me.
Wow - That brag isn't even humble !
 
Any coffee worth drinking is drank immediately after brewing, and it takes 10 seconds at most. Crema won’t survive more than a few minutes anyway, sealed container or not. If drinking it takes longer than a few seconds, then it’s just dirty water and not coffee.
Clearly we live in different coffee worlds. And whatever happens with crema is moot to me because I stopped adding dairy products 20 years ago when I was involved in taste-testing coffee brand choices for a restaurant. Now I much prefer black coffee, but once or twice a month I may go for a liquid-desert mocha.
 
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The first part is specific to Find My and my attempt to be a little amusing (didn't work!) and the second to coffee. As I go on to explain, I am certainly experienced with hot beverages that are NOT coffee and felt that I understood the product well enough to evaluate it and write a review. Apologies if it wasn't up to your expectations.
The reason the Find My reference failed to amuse is because some of us spend half our day wondering where that coffee cup is... ;~)

The thing is, different hot beverages behave totally differently as regards flavor and heat. So experienced with hot beverages that are NOT coffee means perhaps one should not presume competence to be writing about heating coffee. Tea, for instance, IMO reheats just fine whereas coffee does not. [Caveat: Personally I do not add dairy to tea or coffee, which likely changes things.]
 
LOL. I love my Ember Mug. Im sorry that $200 is out of your price range although I have an Ember 1 which was around $135. I use it literally every day.. I could also drive a $20,000 car that woudl provide pretty much the same functionality of my $120,000 car.
So why don’t you?
 
I have an ember mug (the actual open-top coffee mug version, not this travel version), and also a Lexo phase-change travel mug (same company as Burnout, but their cheaper imported version).

I roast my own coffee and also enjoy loose leaf tea. Both mugs have pros and cons, but if I had to pick just one it would be the Lexo/Burnout phase change. Reason being there is no lithium-ion battery to charge or wear out in the phase change mug. It works just as well as the ember, but I never run into the situation where I want to use it and realize I forgot to charge the battery. The downside of the relatively simple phase change mug is the internal wax is permanently calibrated to maintain your beverage at specific temperature, whereas the ember is adjustable to you preference.

The elephant in the room with ember is the battery is not user-serviceable. As the battery wears out, you are left with a lovely e-waste mug.

If I were designing a smart-mug, I'd instead put the battery in the coaster, and in fact make that battery user-replaceable and completely optional. Power the coaster from USB-C, and it inductively heats the mug while measuring beverage temperature using an RFID sensor. Thus the mug would be lighter, dishwasher safe, and last far longer. Use a phase-change liner in the mug, and an optional travel lid, and you've got a great setup. Wish someone would make that... ah, but no planned obsolescence.
 
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An advantage of the Nextmug is it can keep the temperature of the beverage up to 150F. I've tested it. It appears Ember only goes up to 145.
 
Imagine ordering one of these and instead getting a thank you letter for having your $200 diverted to help house a homeless person, feed a hungry child, upgrade public transportation, or give an underpaid teacher a bonus.
 
If she loves coffee and is particular about the temperature (meaning she likes it hot and only hot) then she will love it.
It will probably be better received if I don't mention the price at all! (Though the more reasonably priced Burnout option mentioned below is also very promising.)
Spend less than half as much and get the Burnout instead. Mine arrived this morning and testing shows it to be well made and performing as advertised. Without the vendor-suggested preheating my test water was 180F at time zero, 155F at 2 minutes (ideal drinking temp for my taste), 144F at 5 minutes, 135F at 30 minutes, 134F at 120 minutes and 130F at 180 minutes, 127F after 4.5 hours (bottom range of good drinking temp for my taste, but still good); and the test is still running.

Some of the water was unscientifically poured out to simulate the effect of drinking some of the coffee over time. ;~)
Thanks for mentioning this option. Spending less on a still lavish expenditure will probably make the price (and coffee) easier to swallow.
The first part is specific to Find My and my attempt to be a little amusing (didn't work!) and the second to coffee. As I go on to explain, I am certainly experienced with hot beverages that are NOT coffee and felt that I understood the product well enough to evaluate it and write a review. Apologies if it wasn't up to your expectations.
No apology necessary. My comment was also meant to be a little amusing. I should have included an emoji to better convey that. So, my apologies as well.
 
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