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The car industry would eventually be dominated by Tesla and Alphabet, just like the phone industry is now fully dominated by Google (over 85% market share). Alphabet would NEVER support CarPlay, so, if CarPlay cannot establish a co-defense line with Tesla, against Alphabet, it would gradually diminish, no matter how many other companies it works together with at present.
Bwhahahhahah. Tesla to dominate the car market? Tesla is a niche product everywhere except California. As more car manufacturers launch EV, Tesla will be the modern day Saturn. You think ford, dodge, Toyota, GM, Honda will just disappear after decades of being in the automobile market vs Teslas 12 years in the market?
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You realize you'll never be able to sell that car, right? Norway jumped from having 3% EVs just six years ago to 64% today - thus far the US has been lagging behind Norway by about six years, meaning that come 2026 when you're thinking about selling that car, the market for a non-EV will have contracted by 2/3rds.

In Norway, they take used gas powered cars and export them to other countries, because demand is so low in that country that paying thousands to ship to another country is worth it.

Come 2026, the markets that gas powered cars can be exported to will be dramatically reduced. Maybe you'll be able to break even shipping it to Mexico. Maybe not - with oil demand falling out of the sky, the infrastructure is going to be a good deal more expensive and reduced. A luxury for the rich, meaning poorer nations may shun gas powered cars even quicker than the US.

You're basically buying the last Blackberry now.
No one is “buying” a car with the hopes of making a profit at the end of its life. Cars are depreciating asset. You don’t purchase a car as an investment. It’s a luxury item.

Never be able to “Sell” the car. Someone would by a 2020 car in 2026 for $500 I guarantee it. That’s me “selling” it.
 
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You realize you'll never be able to sell that car, right? Norway jumped from having 3% EVs just six years ago to 64% today - thus far the US has been lagging behind Norway by about six years, meaning that come 2026 when you're thinking about selling that car, the market for a non-EV will have contracted by 2/3rds.

In Norway, they take used gas powered cars and export them to other countries, because demand is so low in that country that paying thousands to ship to another country is worth it.

Come 2026, the markets that gas powered cars can be exported to will be dramatically reduced. Maybe you'll be able to break even shipping it to Mexico. Maybe not - with oil demand falling out of the sky, the infrastructure is going to be a good deal more expensive and reduced. A luxury for the rich, meaning poorer nations may shun gas powered cars even quicker than the US.

You're basically buying the last Blackberry now.

Are you really trying to compare Norway's minuscule automotive market to the #2 market in the world, and extrapolate conclusions from that?

Roughly 142,000 vehicles were sold last year in Norway, compared to ~17 million in the U.S. That's less than one percent in comparison. (with Infiniti taking a 21% dive in sales)

The perennial top-selling vehicle in the U.S., the Ford F-series pickup, reached almost 900,000 in volume. Ford sells more of them in a couple months than Norway totals in a year.

Norway's government heavily incentives BEV sales, and the country has a support infrastructure that's currently about 30% larger than in the U.S. as a whole.

The current U.S. administration is actively working to roll back vehicle emissions standards, not tighten them, and barring a crisis, petroleum fuels remain cheap and carry little in the way of taxes.

In lieu of such government incentives, BEVs are a luxury for the rich, not ICE-powered vehicles.

BEVs will have their time, but the ICE isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

Certainly not in a mere six years, which is shorter than the product cycle the luxury brands favor, and far short of the 11+ years that average American owners retain their vehicles.
 
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Never be able to “Sell” the car. Someone would by a 2020 car in 2026 for $500 I guarantee it. That’s me “selling” it.

What 2014 car is going for $500?
KBB says a 2014 QX50 with base equipment goes for about $12K.

Yeah, it's a depreciating asset, but they don't lose all their value immediately. If they did, financing wouldn't be an option. Most vehicles can have some value 8 years later, thus 8 year auto loans being a thing.
 
What 2014 car is going for $500?
KBB says a 2014 QX50 with base equipment goes for about $12K.

Yeah, it's a depreciating asset, but they don't lose all their value immediately. If they did, financing wouldn't be an option. Most vehicles can have some value 8 years later, thus 8 year auto loans being a thing.
Which means people WILL be able to sell it contrary to your previous comment.
 
I’m glad everyone is just about on board with CarPlay, but ick!!! Infiniti interiors are hideous! I would never buy this hot garbage to take me anywhere...

I can’t comment on the interior of the QX50 specifically, but I think sometimes as those who are car enthusiasts/critics, it’s very easy to be overly critical on interiors of vehicles, When general consumers probably would never even come close to your opinion whatsoever on the interior.

I know a mechanic that has an Infiniti Q50s that mentioned Aside from the TT 3.0 engine, he had no general complaints about the interior, so obviously it’s variable From model to model, or specific years with interior design/materials, ect.
 
Always thought infinity’s looks sharp. It’s just everything I hear and read states reliability as the biggest issue. Same with nissans. Looks great just don’t last.
You never see a 20 year old Sentra or Altima. See old Honda’s/Toyota’s all the time.
 
How much was each replacement?

My brother had the original US WRX and the turbo crapped out at less than 100k. Didn’t bother fixing it and got a Honda.

STIs are dope.
They each had 300K before I got a new one and the engines were fine. But I baby my engines, at least maintenance wise. They’re insanely fun on the track.

Did your brother properly break in the engine for the first couple thousand miles or did he just go nuts when he got it? The first two were around 20-25K and my new one around 35K.

As for CarPlay, I’m not sure how I’ve lived without it all these years. It makes driving a lot safer and puts all the essentials right on my dash display.
 
Neither Infiniti, nor its parent, Nissan are in good shape. Sales are slumping, the stock is getting hammered (Subaru has overtaken them in value among Japanese makers), and the lack of leadership it embarrassing, when the guy who some say engineered the palace coup was later forced to resign himself. They're expected to post their first loss in a decade.

After a decade of trying, Infiniti pulled out of Europe last year due to dismal sales. Its contemporary, Lexus. remains in the market as a bit player, but at least their sales are trending up.

Subjectively, Infiniti was going to be Japan's "BMW" vs. Lexus' "Mercedes" when they were both launched.

Back then, Nissan was an engineering-driven company, and the first Q45 was a great piece of engineering and a credible challenger to the 7-series, while the Lexus LS was clearly gunning for the S-class.

Up and down the line, from the Sentra, 240SX, 300Z, Maxima, Nissan packed their product with advanced engineering that help set them apart in their classes. The SE-R was a hidden gem, with the SR20DE, limited slip, fully-independent suspension. The G20 took that drivetrain and put it in a Euro-targeted sedan with a multi-link front suspension.

Unfortunately, that didn't lead to success, and the products became progressively less advanced. When it descended into crisis, Ghosn was brought in to save the company, with heavy cuts and upending the status quo.

While that brought about a recovery, it also resulted in product that was dumbed-down, cost-driven, and ultimately uninspiring.

That's pretty much the theme Nissan as a whole has ridden for years. The latest soap opera has added some excitement to the company, but that's not reflective of the product.

Ultimately, those big dreams of joining the club with the Germans really only worked out for Lexus. Acura can claim it wasn't as serious of a push upscale, but it, too has flailed for years. Volvo tried to move upmarket and failed. Amati, Mazda's effort, was killed before it even launched.

In that time, Audi has solidified its position to make it a German trio, and can arguably make a case that it belongs in Tier 1 with Merceds, BMW, and Lexus. Cadillac, Lincoln, Acura and Infiniti are stuck in Tier 2.

And after a slow start, with the Koreans ramping up their efforts in that space, things won't get any easier as their product improves even more. The T1 established marques will weather that better than the T2 strugglers.

Here's another hint -- marques that have clear visions and have success don't move their HQs in some fruitless search to find themselves, or satisfy the whims of their executives. Two on that T2 list have, Infiniti being one of them.

The subject of this story is a good illustration. For a luxury marque to only now be joining the CarPlay club is almost inexcusable.
Maybe in the US or Europe, but in MENA Nissan is doing great, Infiniti not so much though. That being said, the interior is hideous as ****.
 
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Bwhahahhahah. Tesla to dominate the car market? Tesla is a niche product everywhere except California. As more car manufacturers launch EV, Tesla will be the modern day Saturn. You think ford, dodge, Toyota, GM, Honda will just disappear after decades of being in the automobile market vs Teslas 12 years in the market?
You totally misread my post.
I am not saying that "ford, dodge, Toyota, GM, Honda will just disappear", what I am saying is that they will all be under the Alphabet umbrella, just like in the smartphone industry, all non-Apple manufacturers are just one sub-entity of the Android family.
By that time, Tesla would be the only possible place for Apple's CarPlay to stay existent.
 
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