TheRealAlex
macrumors 68040
Ouch 5 days, that harsh, I should be getting a new Note 5 today. I want to give them a fair shot.
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Ouch 5 days, that harsh, I should be getting a new Note 5 today. I want to give them a fair shot.
runtohell121
macrumors 6502
Most "iPhone/iOS" users are really not giving much of a chance for Android.. It will take a few days or even few weeks for one to get used to a new device/OS.
AnyTechFan
macrumors newbie
Here is the thing, Android is all over the place.
I can have a super charged Evo or Supra but it will never drive as a BWM or Ferrari out of factory.
no comfort, no luxury feeling to the driving experience.
point is the note 5 is fast, beautiful, but the Android OS is just terrible FOR ME. everything seems so blah 90% of the apps are just ugly looking, when you touch an iphone app it just opens like magic is right their it doesn't feel force, when you do the same thing with android even if is a little faster everything feels forced.
i am staying with Apple.
I can have a super charged Evo or Supra but it will never drive as a BWM or Ferrari out of factory.
no comfort, no luxury feeling to the driving experience.
point is the note 5 is fast, beautiful, but the Android OS is just terrible FOR ME. everything seems so blah 90% of the apps are just ugly looking, when you touch an iphone app it just opens like magic is right their it doesn't feel force, when you do the same thing with android even if is a little faster everything feels forced.
i am staying with Apple.
I can't take your opinion seriously when you describe opening apps as "magical" on the iPhone, it's almost as if I'm listening to a Steve Jobs keynote. There's multiple people including myself who have owned both an iPhone and an Android device and haven't experienced this "magical" difference in opening apps on the iPhone.
I appreciate that you took the time and effort to try out both devices though, that's more than most people will do as they simply don't want to bother with the hassle.
TheRealAlex
macrumors 68040
He has a point, Its about effciency maybe. Why ? Does my 1GB RAM DDR3 iPhone 6 with Dual Core CPU, still Best a 4GB DDR4 RAM 8 Core Note 5 ? this is judged by in Hand use not benchmarks using them both daily.
Also, you could argue and I would agree that the Note 5 can do split screen, it does SPen and a million tricks the iPhone 6 can only wish it could do.
Like using the SPen while a youtube video is running, or making notes right onto the screen. Once you start multitasking and see the SPen features in real time and on screen sticky notes overlayed its "magical"
no really these no lag no judder its buttery smooth.
I wonder why, all these great features are trapped on the Note 5 they would be perfect on the Tab S2
JGIGS
macrumors 68000
Honestly even 30 days is a little tight if all you've used is ios devices since the early iphone days. But 5 days is definitely not a fair amount of time.
AnyTechFan
macrumors newbie
Well my friend you just a conformist, and when I say magical I mean it in the sense that is just works with out a lot of run around.
Keep in mind that iPhone only has 1gb of ram and bs processor compare to the note but it still Performance magically. (Better)
Previous own devices: HTC M7, Note 3,NOTE 4, S6 edge, LG G3, IPhone 4, IPhone 5, IPhone 5s, IPhone 6, and last IPhone 6 plus
So I know when something works as it should and when it doesn't perform how it should.
As opposed to the Note/Android OS having a lot of "run around" when opening apps? Can you elaborate on that? I certainly understand if you're talking about the animations on iOS zooming in and out to give you a more refined/polished feeling, but the difference in performance is negligible in my opinion.
mi7chy
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You're preaching to the wrong choir. We're not the typical clueless person off the street that you can BS. iPhones get away with only 1GB DRAM because it can only run one active foreground app and doesn't actively run background apps like a laptop, desktop or Note 5 can. iPhone also isn't faster in real world use as it has laggier browser scrolling and the Note 5 is ~50% faster overall. Also, iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are going to be obsolete in a few days since they don't support iOS 9 new split view.
http://www.speirs.org/blog/2012/1/2/misconceptions-about-ios-multitasking.html
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The iPhone does not have a "bs" processor, just because it's clocked lower than other processors and is only dual core doesn't make it a bad processor. It's a custom designed chip specifically for Apple's needs and requirements. It offers extremely high single core performance and combined with Apple's severe optimization of iOS, it offers great performance.
I'm just struggling to understand what you classify as magical, opening apps is essentially split into two sub categories which can be evaluated. The time from when you touch the screen to when the phone actually responds and the time it actually takes for the app to open. The Note 5 and S6 for that matter are both quicker to open apps than any iPhone so far. What was so wrong with your Note 5 that it couldn't preform well in something that is a basic task?
AnyTechFan
macrumors newbie
@ Mxbzz
Animation is not a concern if you like the iPhone animation, if your android phone whichever is rooted you can certainly set those up no problem with a simple zip install.
In my opinion to the “run around” the os is to crowded, the stock launcher sucks so 80% of the user have to install a third party launcher, nova, Google now, apex etc. .
The stock messaging app sucks, so again you need to install third party app like hangout, Google messenger, textra .
Google apps are always running in the background so you have to take an extra step to disable them or your battery will go to crap.
Battery standby time complete crap.
Security compare to IOS is crap, anyone can take your android phone and reset it and even if is locked with the Google app security feature you can just load a different rom.
@Mi7chy
You can you Jailbreak your Iphone and have the same setup if that is really something that is important for you.
On the note 5 Google + is laggy when scrolling , also Google now page is laggy when scrolling, also the stock keyboard is laggy when typing so you need to install google keyboard or swiftkey to see if it fixes the problem.
@msavic
Spec wise the note 5 is world ahead of the iPhone 6 or 6 plus but in real world usage the difference is not that big when opening apps or any other task.
It just all comes down to personal opinion the Build quality of the note 5 , s6 , s6 edge is greater but the OS no good for me.
Animation is not a concern if you like the iPhone animation, if your android phone whichever is rooted you can certainly set those up no problem with a simple zip install.
In my opinion to the “run around” the os is to crowded, the stock launcher sucks so 80% of the user have to install a third party launcher, nova, Google now, apex etc. .
The stock messaging app sucks, so again you need to install third party app like hangout, Google messenger, textra .
Google apps are always running in the background so you have to take an extra step to disable them or your battery will go to crap.
Battery standby time complete crap.
Security compare to IOS is crap, anyone can take your android phone and reset it and even if is locked with the Google app security feature you can just load a different rom.
@Mi7chy
You can you Jailbreak your Iphone and have the same setup if that is really something that is important for you.
On the note 5 Google + is laggy when scrolling , also Google now page is laggy when scrolling, also the stock keyboard is laggy when typing so you need to install google keyboard or swiftkey to see if it fixes the problem.
@msavic
Spec wise the note 5 is world ahead of the iPhone 6 or 6 plus but in real world usage the difference is not that big when opening apps or any other task.
It just all comes down to personal opinion the Build quality of the note 5 , s6 , s6 edge is greater but the OS no good for me.
mi7chy
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Not going to waste my time jailbreaking just to get basic functionality plus I prefer to keep my accounts secure.
http://researchcenter.paloaltonetwo...000-apple-accounts-to-create-free-app-utopia/
AnyTechFan
macrumors newbie
if you want to talk about malware there's no end to the articles for android malware.
http://thehackernews.com/2015/09/android-smartphone-malware.html this one is today
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/02/malware-targeting-android-on-the-rise-report.html one day ago and the list goes on.
and if you really want to enjoy your android to the fullest you will probably end up rooting it ( jailbreaking)
You complain about using other launchers and third party messaging apps and yet jailbreaking is fine to achieve multi tasking.
AnyTechFan
macrumors newbie
I don't use multitasking i jailbreak for other reasons, for multitasking ill use a laptop or a tablet not a small phone.You complain about using other launchers and third party messaging apps and yet jailbreaking is fine to achieve multi tasking.
MRU
macrumors Penryn
That's just absolute nonsense.
iOS 8 doesn't either and people are using their devices without issue. It's also looking like Phone devices regardless won't support split view with apple reserving it for its tablets only - so regardless of whether it's an iPhone 6S or 6 the difference iOS 9 will bring will be minor.
Phones will continue to work exactly as they have done and millions of users are using them. To say they will be obsolete is just juvenile.
And to say iPhones can't do more than one thing is likewise nonsense. Your phone is constantly doing multiple jobs in the background from accessing data, checking emails, streaming music etc. I can play a video on my phone, send it to my TV via AirPlay, check email and safari browse, all multiple tasks that are happening realtime at the same time.
The-Real-Deal82
macrumors P6
steve knight
macrumors 68030
I agree I got my s6 maybe 2 weeks ago and I am still learning funding the right apps is a real challenge thats where apple is king so far.
JGIGS
macrumors 68000
I'm going to join in with everyone else on this one. I didn't find much of a difference between opening an app on my S6 vs my iphone 6 speed wise. If anything iphone animation made it slower but Jailbreaking apps can make it very quick but that's not stock so not really fair to compare. You also add some delay if you are opening an app at the top of the phone having to use reachability as well so in those cases keeping all your icons at the bottom of an android provides the most effecient app opening speed.
JGIGS
macrumors 68000
What iphone app can you not find on Android? Haven't had an issue with this since my S3 days. I believe the Play actually has more apps than the apple app store.
MasterRyu2011
macrumors 65816
The only thing keeping me on the fence with the Note 5 is battery life. There are so many mixed reviews out there that I don't know what to go by. If only Samsung has opened up the gate again for Wave 2...
MRU
macrumors Penryn
It's been surprisingly good for me, though I'm only on my second day - its about same as the Note 4 for me.
steve knight
macrumors 68030
well not find but does not work the same maybe. a package tracker app. I finally found one that will sync with a webpage. it is really hard to copy and paste tracking numbers from email the amazon or ebay app. so being able to paste them on a webpage then sync them to the phone has helped. but the app is not as nice as the ios one you can't scan tracking bar codes and it does not push data when you add something new from the webpage. it took me awhile to find that app that worked ok. break.com finally made a app just recently. for some reason the or I don't know what format to use but the audible app for android can't see other audiobooks I used the apple format then tried the one other one. I know there were a few I could not replace but I forgot what they were. but I have only used google play too. what gets me is my home automation Smartthings worked with my first android I returned but not with the s6 others have had that issue too it does not know when I come and go. of course samsung bought smartthigns so there you go (G)
Zaft
macrumors 601
AG drive is not on android for some reason.