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Could you imagine, a laptop with HDMI, USB3, and maybe even a charing port like a magsafe2? I know shocking.....

Maybe Apple should release a gold version with useful ports and charge 50k!
 
I have the OWC 13 port Thunderbolt 3 dock. And let me be clear, for my 2017 15" MacBook pro doing rendering and heavy CPU tasks, it charges slow but it charges. 60W is not ideal but it IS enough unless you need to charge your laptop at the fastest possible rate.

Additionally the OWC dock is horrible, stay away from it. It takes me 10 minutes of unplugging and plugging in and switching ports and messing around to get the monitors to all come on and work. I want to throw it out the window, so I'm on the hunt for a new dock.
 
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I read this everywhere ....

I have a max spec 2017 15" MacBook Pro and I spend a lot of time (probably 70% of the time) exporting Prores 4444 video through Final Cut X.

My battery remains at 100 always through my OWC dock at 60 watts.

It's been the same behaviour since September. My CPU AND GPU usage are through the roof during these processes. (As seen with istatmenu).

Also, I've seen my MacBook charge from 20% to 100 while doing these processes. So again, not sure why this is a rumour.
Besides, to me it's somewhat obvious that Apple designs their chargers to be not only capable of providing all the necessary power to power the laptop running at full-tilt, but also to charge the batteries at the normal speed. I'd assume that the battery would charge slower with a 60 watt charger, if you're doing intensive tasks, but I can't imagine it wouldn't charge at all. It isn't enough of a drop.
 
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So why there are USB-A hubs and there are not USB-C hubs? I don't understand... If I make the transition to all USB-C, then I'm stuck with the 2 ports of the MacBook pro?

USB back in the day wasn't meant for passing video and these other high bandwidth applications until USB 3.0 came out. (Which is why I also believe that USB 3.0 hubs were useless because you faced the pains of losing bandwidth every time a port was split from the computer in question).

In regards to your question, welcome to the painful cost of new port adoption. It sucks, I agree with you there.
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I have the OWC 13 port Thunderbolt 3 dock. And let me be clear, for my 2017 15" MacBook pro doing rendering and heavy CPU tasks, it charges slow but it charges. 60W is not ideal but it IS enough unless you need to charge your laptop at the fastest possible rate.

Additionally the OWC dock is horrible, stay away from it. It takes me 10 minutes of unplugging and plugging in and switching ports and messing around to get the monitors to all come on and work. I want to throw it out the window, so I'm on the hunt for a new dock.

Same dock here. Same issue. I wish OWC would update the firmware to fix this. I like to render stuff with my monitor off. My solution (albeit annoying) has seemed to work recently.

I use an LG 27UD88 USB-C monitor. I never sleep my MacBook (just hate how certain apps behave after sleeping) so this worked for me.

I made a hot corner to sleep my monitor and just move my mouse there. The monitor goes into low power mode and is basically off. When I come back to it, I click the power button, and the shake my mouse (or hit a key) and it comes back to life.

Now- I agree, this isn't the best solution, but it works until OWC or Apple (whoever is guilty) finds a solution. I will say that besides this, the dock runs flawlessly for me. And when I was using an older DVI monitor with a DVI to Mini DisplayPort cable, it worked perfectly with the dock. (Sleep/ wake / power off without sleeping the Mac).
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Besides, to me it's somewhat obvious that Apple designs their chargers to be not only capable of providing all the necessary power to power the laptop running at full-tilt, but also to charge the batteries at the normal speed. I'd assume that the battery would charge slower with a 60 watt charger, if you're doing intensive tasks, but I can't imagine it wouldn't charge at all. It isn't enough of a drop.

Exactly.
 
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Which is why I also believe that USB 3.0 hubs were useless because you faced the pains of losing bandwidth every time a port was split from the computer in question

NB: As far as USB devices are concerned, a USB-C hub is a USB3 hub, and shares the bandwidth of a single USB 3 lane between multiple ports. USB-C adds better charging and 'alt' modes like DisplayPort (but 4k@60Hz and USB3 data simultaneously), but USB-wise, USB-C still only carries a single USB 3.1 channel. USB 3.1gen1 is effectively the same 5Gbps link as USB3.0. USB 3.1gen2 is 10Gbps, but the vast majority of USB-C hubs/docks only offer USB 3.1gen1 on downstream ports. Anyway, 3.1gen2 isn't exclusive to USB-C - several PC motherboards support USB 3.1gen2 A-type sockets.

Sorry, but "USB-C is a faster USB than USB 3/USB A" seems to be a common misconception. Of course "USB-C" being used ambiguously to mean either the physical connector/cabling or the whole "USB-C smart connector/USB3.1/USB power delivery/DP alt mode" stack doesn't help.

This thread was originally about a Thunderbolt 3 dock which works completely differently (and that difference shows up in the price) even though it uses the same connectors and can fall-back to being a USB port.
 
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