Review's embargo

that's exactly what benchmarks' are for.

if it's below 40% the speed of current rMBP, then I'm not getting it.

same goes for battery life, if it's below currently MBA 11. that's disappointing.

I don't need to try it for 2 weeks to know, that's why reviewers get paid to report them

Benchmarks don't necessarily correlate well to real-world tasks. What they do provide is a consistent comparison, hence the name. Which rMBP are you going to compare it to? There's a real possibility that most of the people who buy the rMB don't need as much CPU as they're getting in a base MBA or rMBP, even if they turn in benchmarks 40% above the rMB. On the other hand, if your usage does need that kind of power, you probably already know that the rMB won't work for you. There are already several Windows Core M machines out there with full benchmarks. The rMB's performance probably won't be dramatically different from their performance.
 
Benchmarks don't necessarily correlate well to real-world tasks. What they do provide is a consistent comparison, hence the name. Which rMBP are you going to compare it to? There's a real possibility that most of the people who buy the rMB don't need as much CPU as they're getting in a base MBA or rMBP, even if they turn in benchmarks 40% above the rMB. On the other hand, if your usage does need that kind of power, you probably already know that the rMB won't work for you. There are already several Windows Core M machines out there with full benchmarks. The rMB's performance probably won't be dramatically different from their performance.

This is well said
 
The question is: underpowered for what?

Exactly. That sounds like a MBP user talking. :)

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that's exactly what benchmarks' are for.

if it's below 40% the speed of current rMBP, then I'm not getting it.

same goes for battery life, if it's below currently MBA 11. that's disappointing.

I don't need to try it for 2 weeks to know, that's why reviewers get paid to report them

For this machine, I'm doing my own testing. A reviewer is probably going to be comparing it to a MBP. I don't need that reference. I am going to be my own reviewer. :)
 
I'm sure the 1st gen will be hot when flash etc starts running, but not slow at all. PCI-e SSD matters 100x more for regular Joe compared to 1ghz or 2ghz
 
That'd be unusual.

Seems like the reviewers almost always get the new products in advance, write the reviews, then hold off publishing them until the embargo is lifted.

Which is clearly just a guess.

No Apple products are made available before launch. Magazines are in the dark as much as consumers - I know, we produce the magazines!

We don't know what Mac products are going to be released until we see the launch. We guess, but we can't "review" products prior to launch, as they are kept secret, behind closed doors.

Even after launch, review units are scarce!
 
Which is clearly just a guess.

No Apple products are made available before launch. Magazines are in the dark as much as consumers - I know, we produce the magazines!

We don't know what Mac products are going to be released until we see the launch. We guess, but we can't "review" products prior to launch, as they are kept secret, behind closed doors.

Even after launch, review units are scarce!

Must be comlplety different then iPhone and iPad since there is always reviews out a couple days before release with the reviewers just waiting for the embargo to be lifted so the can put out the review. I guess I'm shocked that the trusted ones didn't get a unit already
 
It's not about embargo, it's when they are going to receive their test units. And this will probably the same day we all receive them.

It depends on how much free and immediate hype Apple is rallying for; there are Apple Watch units out in the wild, nobody officially posts anything about them because they are under embargo; the rMB may be different, who knows.
 
My friend, who works at a software company, has had the prototype for 3 months before the official unveiling.

Suuuuuuuuure he did.

If your friend ever tries to sell you oceanfront property in Idaho, I don't recommend that you believe him about how amazing the view is.
 
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My friend, who works at a software company, has had the prototype for 3 months before the official unveiling.
I'd reckon the reviewers might get their units a bit earlier too, since there's definitely a healthy batch already made.
IMHO only the design has a wow-factor to it, otherwise it's the same underpowered Core M processor all the new PCs have as well (Yoga 3 Pro, and the new Asus).


seriously, my friend has had the new mb for FOUR months in advance of release, and he says it's surprisingly powerful, and adapting to the usb-c single port was easier than he expected...
 
Suuuuuuuuure he did.

If your friend ever tries to sell you oceanfront property in Idaho, I don't recommend that you believe him about how amazing the view is.

You seriously don't know how prototyping works with Apple's business partners and developers, do you?
They get a lot of pre-release equipment including Mac Pros, Minis and they've been talking about the 4" iPhone 6 before it was news here. Didn't the Apple watch get released after meticulous testing months ahead of the real release?
Same goes for computers.
 
You seriously don't know how prototyping works with Apple's business partners and developers, do you?
They get a lot of pre-release equipment including Mac Pros, Minis and they've been talking about the 4" iPhone 6 before it was news here. Didn't the Apple watch get released after meticulous testing months ahead of the real release?
Same goes for computers.

This is utter and complete bunk. No one gets un-released Apple products to play with, and least of all people who are willing to babble about it to their "friends".

And no, Apple didn't "release Apple Watch months in advance". They invited a few selected developers to get hands-on time with the watch in Apple's own development lab in Cupertino. And that was way after the Watch was officially unveiled. They certainly did not hand out pre-prelease watches to random developers and said - "here, go play with it".

You friend did not have rMB 3 months before official unveiling. No one did, outside of Apple's in-house testers and engineers. Please stop posting nonsense here.
 
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This is utter and complete bunk. No one gets un-released Apple products to play with, and least of all people who are willing to babble about it to their "friends".

And no, Apple didn't "release Apple Watch months in advance". They invited a few selected developers to get hands-on time with the watch in Apple's own development lab in Cupertino. And that was way after the Watch was officially unveiled. They certainly did not hand out pre-prelease watches to random developers and said - "here, go play with it".

You friend did not have rMB 3 months before official unveiling. No one did, outside of Apple's in-house testers and engineers. Please stop posting nonsense here.
I think that you are wrong here. I'm pretty sure some people get access to new products, when they are not that sensible. This has been done for the Mac Pro as some selected tester got it few weeks before the unveil.
I'm pretty sure it has been the same with the rMB and this would explain the leak that appeared on 9to5mac in january: if you look at the render, it's almost IDENTICAL to the rMB as we know.
 
Nah, he just sends a couple of Secret Service agents out after a night on the town to crash through the security barriers and take one by brute force. :rolleyes:

The question is: will Obama sport an Apple Watch? :eek:
 
I think that you are wrong here. I'm pretty sure some people get access to new products, when they are not that sensible. This has been done for the Mac Pro as some selected tester got it few weeks before the unveil.

I'm pretty sure it has been the same with the rMB and this would explain the leak that appeared on 9to5mac in january: if you look at the render, it's almost IDENTICAL to the rMB as we know.

No I am not wrong. Apple doesn't hand out un-announced products to 3rd parties. Period and end of story. And if you believe otherwise - show us some real evidence.

What we saw on 9to5mac was a leak. It's completely different from what that guy was saying - Apple willingly handing out unreleased and unannounced MacBook to some 3rd party developer (who happened to be his "friend" of course).
 
No I am not wrong. Apple doesn't hand out un-announced products to 3rd parties. Period and end of story. And if you believe otherwise - show us some real evidence.

What we saw on 9to5mac was a leak. It's completely different from what that guy was saying - Apple willingly handing out unreleased and unannounced MacBook to some 3rd party developer (who happened to be his "friend" of course).

I agree with this.

There's no way Apple is sending pre-release units to 3rd party developers to develop on..especially a product NOT aimed at developers.

And then they break their NDA by telling this guy who blabs all over a forum? And when asked about other info, he claims he can get it, but would be under a self imposed NDA?

Or is he claiming his friends can freely tell whoever they want whatever detail, and put them on a NDA without Apples consent?

This makes no sense..
 
No I am not wrong. Apple doesn't hand out un-announced products to 3rd parties. Period and end of story. And if you believe otherwise - show us some real evidence.

What we saw on 9to5mac was a leak. It's completely different from what that guy was saying - Apple willingly handing out unreleased and unannounced MacBook to some 3rd party developer (who happened to be his "friend" of course).

So tell me why during the MacPro keynote they explained us that some selected tester had access to MacPro before the keynote?

https://youtu.be/9FQSG-FsgFE?t=2061

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