Revised Mac mini now shipping?
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impierced
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bodeh6 said:
The eMac has a Radeon 9600 with 64MB - it's been using that card for almost 5 months. I will not purchase a Mac mini until they up that stupid Radeon 9200... come on... an additional 32MB of memory doesn't cut it.
The Mac mini has been using the same video card since it's introduction 9 months ago.
areyouwishing
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lickily said:Shhh.... don't tell the "power" users here. They don't know why anyone would get excited over this little bump. To them, we're just quibbling over low-end scraps
oh yes, the ones with the "power"books. see, i did FCP on my 12" and now 2 years later people think that on a 4200rpm w/ 32mb machine it can't be done. After generating a lot of revenue on both these little machines i know what they are capable of... a lot. This makes the mac mini that much more sweet.
Buy one when you need one.
Even with familiar 10% upgrade in 6-month interval, 'normal' people is OK to get one when they need one. Some geeks like us search for rumors and buy one just after upgrades.
With new "stealth upgrade" (TM), 6% + others upgrade in 2-month or less, more will buy one when they need one.
Even with familiar 10% upgrade in 6-month interval, 'normal' people is OK to get one when they need one. Some geeks like us search for rumors and buy one just after upgrades.
With new "stealth upgrade" (TM), 6% + others upgrade in 2-month or less, more will buy one when they need one.
Core Image question
I've been waiting for this Mac mini update to hold me over until the Intel Macs. Can someone explain what exactly I'd lose if the mini doesn't support Core Image? I'm not a developer - just work with Flash, Photoshop, Pages, Excel, etc. Thanks in advance.
I've been waiting for this Mac mini update to hold me over until the Intel Macs. Can someone explain what exactly I'd lose if the mini doesn't support Core Image? I'm not a developer - just work with Flash, Photoshop, Pages, Excel, etc. Thanks in advance.
"Sources have informed Think Secret that Mac mini box labels will continue to list the older specifications with no indication of whether the newer or older systems are contained within. The motivation behind this is to help clear current inventory without lowering prices. Essentially, customers are promised that the Mac mini they purchase will have specifications "at least" equal to the label, but that their system may exceed those. Customers who purchase a new Mac mini to find they ended up with the older configuration will not be able to return the system in the hopes of getting the newer configuration without paying a restocking fee." - thinksecret update
CAN APPLE BE ANY MORE F***ING CHEAPER? Just donot send out the new ones untill you are done with your inventory. I cannot believe that they are this much retarded. Is this a form of playing a lottery? I think just to f*** with them people should not buy the product till they come out and post the darn update!
CAN APPLE BE ANY MORE F***ING CHEAPER? Just donot send out the new ones untill you are done with your inventory. I cannot believe that they are this much retarded. Is this a form of playing a lottery? I think just to f*** with them people should not buy the product till they come out and post the darn update!
1984
macrumors 6502a
budugu said:
I just lost a lot of respect for Apple. You might get a new one... or you might not. You pay your money and you take your chances. What kind of crap is this? Just lower the price on the previous models like any other company would do. I hope they get sued over this.
beatle888
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budugu said:CAN APPLE BE ANY MORE F***ING CHEAPER? Just donot send out the new ones untill you are done with your inventory. I cannot believe that they are this much retarded. Is this a form of playing a lottery? I think just to f*** with them people should not buy the product till they come out and post the darn update!
why would this upset you? especially after you saying that apple should just wait to release the update until they sell their inventory? at least now you will get a chance of getting a better system if your in the market for a mini. and if you can wait then wait till the box notates the specs you want.
i think its cool of apple. i really cant see why you would be mad. but thanks for the laugh.
Some_Big_Spoon
macrumors 6502a
They're a corporation, it's their job.
gkarris said:
budugu said:CAN APPLE BE ANY MORE F***ING CHEAPER? Just donot send out the new ones untill you are done with your inventory. I cannot believe that they are this much retarded. Is this a form of playing a lottery? I think just to f*** with them people should not buy the product till they come out and post the darn update!
How long have you folks been using computers? This was common practice for years in the PC world. We would very routinely order 100s of PCs at a time for rollouts and some would arrive with tweeks and minor upgrades. At least on a Mac the changes won't send you searching through boxes looking for driver revisions.
I can't get over reading this thread how many people treat the mini as some high end machine and act like Apple is holding out on them. Would you be upset to buy a $399 Dell from your Sunday Best Buy ad and find out the box next to it had some minor difference? Who cares. Its a CHEAP consumer level machine. Its not a PowerMac. Its not even an iBook. Some of you should quit your analysis of every spec of the mini and just take it for what it is - the bottom of the line Apple made for homework, iTunes and email.
sunilraman
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Excellent hard disk upgrade
bloody sweet. momentus 5400rpm with 8mb cache is pure seagate goodness. that rawks.
phairphan said:
bloody sweet. momentus 5400rpm with 8mb cache is pure seagate goodness. that rawks.
beatle888
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1984 said:
are you in the market for a mini? would you buy a mini with the specs listed on the box? if not then DONT, if yes then DO IT.
how could such a simple decision throw you into confusion. i'll try to say it another way. if your willing to buy a mini with the specs on the box then do it and DONT EXPECT the increased specs that some are getting.
see how easy that is. thats all i have to say about it. if you cant see how simple that solves the issue then i really dont have anything more to say to you. besides why would you wanna correspond with such a smarmy BIG bastard like me?
1984
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While the updates might not be considered major they are not exactly minor either. 64MB of video memory will help greatly with high resolution displays and a 5400rpm hard drive will allow you to run GarageBand without stuttering. Bluetooth wireless has been improved and the CPU speeds have been bumped a little too. I've never seen this many changes go undocumented in the PC world, maybe a small last minute revision here and there but not a whole bunch all at once.
Imagine going to the car dealer and being told...
"Well, for $25,000 you'll either get a 170HP engine or a 100HP engine, leather seats or cloth seats, sunroof or no sunroof... we can't tell you though. You just have to take your chances."
If they have excess inventory they either need to hold off on the new configurations or lower the prices on the previous models.
The new specs are all out in the open now and I cannot imagine anyone who needs the extra video memory or faster hard drives to take the chance of buying one not knowing whether or not they'll actually get them. This is not insignificant to those in the market for a Mac mini. Not everyone sees it as a cheap expenditure or something they can simply toy around with. I think a lot of "power" users here forget that.
Apple really screwed this one up.
Imagine going to the car dealer and being told...
"Well, for $25,000 you'll either get a 170HP engine or a 100HP engine, leather seats or cloth seats, sunroof or no sunroof... we can't tell you though. You just have to take your chances."
If they have excess inventory they either need to hold off on the new configurations or lower the prices on the previous models.
The new specs are all out in the open now and I cannot imagine anyone who needs the extra video memory or faster hard drives to take the chance of buying one not knowing whether or not they'll actually get them. This is not insignificant to those in the market for a Mac mini. Not everyone sees it as a cheap expenditure or something they can simply toy around with. I think a lot of "power" users here forget that.
Apple really screwed this one up.
Evangelion
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MacTruck said:
Well, gaming should be faster now. Also, 32MB resulted in choppy Expose in higher resolutions, this upgrade should fix that.
Well, you get that extra 80MHz for free, so I fail to see the problem here.
IIRC, this upgrade includes faster hard-drives.
Remember: we are talking about the cheapest Mac available. You are basically demanding features and specs that exist in more expensive models on their cheapest computer.
"At least"? You aren't demanding much, considering that the G4 maxes out at 1.67GHz! Seriously, the CPU is fast enough. I have the 1.25 GHz model, and it has plenty of horsepower for the intended uses of the machine. If you want more power to run some pro-apps, Apple has some other computers for sale for that purpose.
Again: this is the cheapest Mac available. It would be ludicrous to demand high specs from this machine. You could say that you get what you pay for.
Well, this update fixes that problem, improves other specs as well, without increasing the prices. So the problem is..... what, exactly? You get more computer for the same amount of money, and you complain?
Evangelion
macrumors 68040
lickily said:
You are buying a 1.42GHz machine with 32MB of VRAM. With little luck, you might get a machine that exceeds those specs, without paying a dime more. So what is the problem here? "But I wanna the new model!". Sorry, they promise you the machine that they have written on the specs. That is the machine you are paying for. If you are lucky, you might get a better machine for the same amount of money. You could say that some people are getting a free gift from Apple, and still people complain and whine?
1984 said:
Can you quit with these poor car analogies.
170HP or 100HP engine?? Is the revised mini 70% faster then the old??? No, it's about 6%
Sunroofs, Leather seats
In a bottom-of-the-range car If anything you can use the analogy that you will be getting 4 cup-holders instead of 2
Anybody who orders a mini with the current specs cannot be peeved if thats what they get. Apple is using it as an incentive to ship out the last stock- that's all, no conspiracy, move on, nothing to see here.
Worst case scenario you have to wait 1 week until the are fully released.
BlizzardBomb
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Postal said:
Hehe! That's a good one! Can't see how this is just a rumour now.
Evangelion
macrumors 68040
1984 said:
You are quaranteed that you will get the machine you are buying. As in: the machine that is listed in the specs! THAT is the machine you are buying and paying for. You MIGHT get a better machine for same amount of money. Why is that a problem? More computer for same amount of money, but you whine? You get a better computer for same amount of money, and you whine?
If you want to get the new machine with 100% certainity, wait for a while, untill they officially improve the specs!
To use the car-analogy: you decide to buy a car with certain specs. Then when they deliver the car to you, the salesperson tells you that "they ran out of the cars you ordered, so we decided to give you a slightly better model instead. This model has all the features you ordered, but it also has navigation and Xenon-headlights. The price is the same, however". What is the problem?
Sheesh, some people here....
brother said:
Guys guys, calm down i know this is macrumors but it doesnt mean that we must believe everything especially when things dont sound like Apple -not that the Intel thing sounded like Apple- but this 1.5 thing seems hillarious. Didnt they want to advertse this change? Seems strange. Anyway well i just wanted to say that Santa yesterday dropped in early a MacMini box in my house and look what it was! A MacMini with a dual G5 2.7GHz processor...
I do not imply anything bad about "brother" i just want to make a point. Lets have our eyes open... although now that i think of it Apple can make mistakes sometimes.
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1984
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c2104338 said:Can you quit with these poor car analogies.
170HP or 100HP engine?? Is the revised mini 70% faster then the old??? No, it's about 6%
Um, since when is a 170HP engine 70% faster than a 100HP one? It's not like it makes you go from 0-60 in 3 seconds vs 10 seconds. Even a 1,000HP Bugatti takes a little more than 3 seconds. My analogy is correct.
Sunroofs, Leather seats
You can get a new car for less than $25,000 with sunroof, leather seats, etc. Just did in fact for less than $22,000. Not "bottom-of-the-range" at all. Depends on your point of view I guess.
If anything you can use the analogy that you will be getting 4 cup-holders instead of 2
So you think $25,000 buys you a bottom of the barrel econobox? Like I said before, you "power" users think the Mac mini is just a toy and buying one is financially trivial. Spending $499 on a Mac mini must be the equivalent of you buying lunch or something. Nice to have money to burn.