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jmalnma

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So, a friend's workplace dumped a lot of their old inventory for recycling. They let employees grab whatever they wanted before they ship it all off, and he brought me ten A1286 15" mid-2010 Macbook Pros with gutted drives to see if I could do anything with them rather than let them be melted down to make beer cans.

Five of them had exploded batteries that spilled over and likely destroyed the logic board and bent the bottom out of shape, no saving those ones, they don't even power on. Three of them look fine internally but also refuse to power on, no saving those either I'd guess.

The two remaining ones power on, but flash a folder icon with a question mark, so those have some hope.

I installed a few spare HDDs in them, reset PRAM, checked to see if they're High Sierra compatible (they are) and loaded up a USB with High Sierra Patcher and made a bootable High Sierra installer. Install went fine but when I restart, it gives a no-entry error icon. Restarted with Option key held, but any attempt to boot from the new install or the newly created recovery partition still results in a no-entry icon. And at this point, they refuse to boot the USB installer as well.

Wiped the drives using my spare T430, reinstalled again, same problem.
To preempt some replies, no, the drives aren't defective. I use them regularly for data transfers and backups, and they work fine in all my PCs.

I'm not 100% versed in the internal workings of Macbooks, so I don't know if Internet Recovery boots off the recovery partition on the data drive or whether it's stored on the logic board somewhere, but that didn't work either, nothing happens when trying to invoke it. Either it also boots from the data drive, or they never updated the firmware to support Internet Recovery, or both, I don't know.

I searched around for other solutions and the best one I could find suggests replacing the SATA/power cable. Seeing as I had eight spare parts machines, I had plenty to try. Still no dice though, even after five transplanted cables. What are the chances that all these cables are defective?

In a last desperate attempt, I took the HDD caddy from my T430, disassembled it down the just the SATA-to-slimlineSATA adapter, removed the Macbook DVD drive, and connected the HDD with the adapter to the Macbook's DVD drive connector. This just causes the Macbook to kick into full blast fan mode and refuses to show anything on the gray screen.

The final answer I found was that it's possible the logic board is hosed. Is this really the end of the line? I've pretty much exhausted everything I could think of and every answer on Google is "try to boot into recovery," suggestions which I've already tried countless times.
 
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Internet Recovery (⌘ + option + R) bootstraps from the internal EFI firmware, downloads the needed files, and then makes a ram disk with the recovery software, no hard drive needed. More recent models have it built in, and certain models can have their firmware upgraded (https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT202313) although I imagine you need a working OS first. Since the website talks about upgrading your model, then unless someone did the upgrade I believe you definitely need the boot media. Maybe try to make the boot media again, or try an earlier OS version. Or try to install to the Macs with the question mark, as they seem to be (mostly) working.

The no entry sign (https://support.apple.com/en-ca/TS1411#symp2) means it cannot find needed system files. Assuming that the cables didn't all go bad (and there isn't something like water damage making life interesting), a successful reinstall should fix everything as the drives are still working.

The question mark is likely that a SMC reset changed the default boot partition so it cannot decide which one to use (and won't choose the only one). Holding option and selecting a partition should fix things.

The high fan issue is that the hard drive doesn't have the Apples temperature sensor firmware (or there is a glitch), so the Mac is defaulting to high fan speed as a failsafe. You will need either a new official drive or use a fan control app: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4986417.
 
The question mark error isn't too big a deal. The HDD was of course blank so there was no boot partition to be found. The bigger problem is that after a seemingly smooth and problem-free installation, and it reboots and finds a boot partition, it throws up a no-entry sign.

I actually did try installing Sierra as well after making the OP post, same problem. I suppose I could go further back and try even older releases, nothing to lose at this point.

So far the only thing that they've been able to successfully boot from is the USB installer. It's a bit of a stretch, but would it be possible to download the firmware updater onto the flash drive and run it from within the installer? The installer does offer access to the Terminal. Might go digging around Google again to see if that's even doable.
 
No idea on the requirements of the firmware updater.

What Mac version did they have beforehand? The firmware might not be recognizing the newer OS since it likely came with 10.6. This person had a similar issue: https://serverfault.com/questions/881439/unsuccessful-clean-install-on-a-macbook-pro-late-2011

Or you can try a reset of NVRAM: https://discussions.apple.com/message/32281768#32281768

These are my gotos for resetting:

Resetting NVRAM/PRAM
  • Shut down your Mac.
  • Locate the following keys on the keyboard: Command (⌘), Option, P, and R.
  • Turn on your Mac.
  • Press and hold the Command-Option-P-R keys immediately after you hear the startup sound.
  • Hold these keys until the computer restarts and you hear the startup sound for a second time.
  • Release the keys.
Reset the SMC on Mac notebook computers
  • Shut down the Mac.
  • Plug in the MagSafe or USB-C power adapter to a power source and to your Mac.
  • Using the built-in keyboard, press Shift-Control-Option on the left side of the keyboard, then press the power button at the same time.
  • Release all keys, then press the power button again to turn on your Mac.
 
I honestly have no idea what version they had before the drives were gutted. Looking up the serial numbers reveal they're from mid-2010 so I'd guess they rolled out of the factory with 10.6. Guess I'll jump all the way back and give 10.6 a shot.

Maybe it's an issue of the firmware needing to be updated before they can run newer versions of macos, though I would think the installer would take care of that along the way. With the last several years of security blunders though I wouldn't put it past Apple to just let older Macs completely fall through the cracks. I was forced to upgrade my personal Macbook because Apple refused to patch that major security flaw unless you were on the latest OSX some two years ago.

I'll try to reset the PRAM again, but not holding out much hope for that one.
 
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