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RIM will survive. HP's about ready to buy something again. The two-headed clown that run's rim currently however doesn't have a chance.
 
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I think they'll be dead within 4 years

According to Nielsen, they're still the #2 smartphone manufacturer in the US with BB OS having almost 3x the market share of Win Phone 7.
 
Well, good luck with that, RIM.

It astounds me that a company run so badly for so many years, producing third-rate sequels to third-rate products everyone stopped caring about four years ago, is still around.

RIM's failure would be good for everyone. Get corporate drones to get their heads out of their asses, and move the money towards innovative and modern solutions. (I remember powering on a girlfriend's Blackberry once-- "why does it take 10 minutes to start up? Isn't it supposed to be a phone, not a Windows ME laptop?")

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According to Nielsen, they're still the #2 smartphone manufacturer in the US with BB OS having almost 3x the market share of Win Phone 7.

Windows Phone 7 also has had terrible luck, terrible marketing, a bad product strategy, and is relatively new.
I'll bet you a good 80% of those BB devices were bought for people by their company. People are not choosing them.
 
I remember powering on a girlfriend's Blackberry once-- "why does it take 10 minutes to start up?

You should consider that fast. Mine took upwards of 25 minutes to boot near the end of its life cycle. It truly is astonishing how RIM could knowingly release a product with such a glaring short coming in this area. But as for everything else, I actually enjoyed the blackberry phones and OS.
 
RIMs changing world

RIM is going to get bought by google for their patents, google will then look for ways to envelope their tech into The Googleverse.

As far as people carrying around a BB... it's not going away tomorrow but they clearly have no vision. There are people who are addicted to the BB, people who won't leave an actual keyboard, and their international market in places like Indonesia, Thailand, and India is growing. People love BBM there as it's a cheap replacement for the SMS they have had to pay for for 20 years. Come to Asia and you will see flocks of girls with BBs hanging around their necks from necklaces with bling all over it. The BB is a big thing out here... and it just got here a few years ago. iMessage is awesome, but the rollout is terrible and people are confused on how to sign up and use it. BBM on the other hand is simple and PIN based. Apple really needs to work on how iMessage works and goes viral.

The QNX based handsets on the horizon look abysmal and RIM is seriously like Detroit in the sense that they can't seem to design a decent handset. With Asia and Europe running circles around them design wise.

The talent left the RIM boat over the last year or so and that doesn't help. They seem to be a slow boat toward a new reality... their market in the US, EU will never be the same... they have a future in 3rd world markets where they can push backed on BBM...but they will never dominate again. Clearly those two guys who were running that company were very closed minded and egotistical. Not visionary and open minded like SJ. Maybe they should have taken LSD and study medication in India like the MAN!

I am a MacHead and still carry a BB 9700 because the iPhone was a disappointment. The email always has to download, which takes a moment, the contacts seem to be constantly syncing... and that slows me down. The BB handles changes quick and effectively. I had iPhone 1, 3G, skipped 3GS and 4... I will have my 4S in a few days and I really hope that it does what I hope it can do...so I can finally, after 15 years, get away from the BB and go 100% Apple

Just my two cents
 
RIM should focus heavily on corporate services.

Only way i see them survive.

But still most f500 companies have already deployed iPhones... Even if they bank heavily on that, it's not a long term game changer

I dun see anyway which they can survive... Unless they offer the phones for free, and have corporations pay a annual charge for their services...

Even then, it's hard to say that companies will chosen RIM over apple and google, since theyremworking really hard too to bite into this market
 
RIM needs to split their products into one that worries about backwards compatibility and the truly horrid user interface mechanisms they rely on, and a second product line that's completely unencumbered by all that, has the touch screen and the slide out keyboard. Market the first to all the legacy corporate customers, and the second to consumers. Get BBM and all the corporate software running on the consumer device though, and have two pincers that meet in the middle.

I'm a software developer, but when I try to use a BlackBerry device, I'm mostly lost. Endless context menus are exactly what you should not use from a HCI perspective. And the key apps like google maps don't seem to work right or at all. Even on the useless small screen. I think it's mostly a software problem, that they could fix if they learned HCI 101, and threw out backwards compatibility.
 
RIM is going to get bought by google for their patents, google will then look for ways to envelope their tech into The Googleverse.

As far as people carrying around a BB... it's not going away tomorrow but they clearly have no vision. There are people who are addicted to the BB, people who won't leave an actual keyboard, and their international market in places like Indonesia, Thailand, and India is growing. People love BBM there as it's a cheap replacement for the SMS they have had to pay for for 20 years. Come to Asia and you will see flocks of girls with BBs hanging around their necks from necklaces with bling all over it. The BB is a big thing out here... and it just got here a few years ago. iMessage is awesome, but the rollout is terrible and people are confused on how to sign up and use it. BBM on the other hand is simple and PIN based. Apple really needs to work on how iMessage works and goes viral.

The QNX based handsets on the horizon look abysmal and RIM is seriously like Detroit in the sense that they can't seem to design a decent handset. With Asia and Europe running circles around them design wise.

The talent left the RIM boat over the last year or so and that doesn't help. They seem to be a slow boat toward a new reality... their market in the US, EU will never be the same... they have a future in 3rd world markets where they can push backed on BBM...but they will never dominate again. Clearly those two guys who were running that company were very closed minded and egotistical. Not visionary and open minded like SJ. Maybe they should have taken LSD and study medication in India like the MAN!

I am a MacHead and still carry a BB 9700 because the iPhone was a disappointment. The email always has to download, which takes a moment, the contacts seem to be constantly syncing... and that slows me down. The BB handles changes quick and effectively. I had iPhone 1, 3G, skipped 3GS and 4... I will have my 4S in a few days and I really hope that it does what I hope it can do...so I can finally, after 15 years, get away from the BB and go 100% Apple

Just my two cents

First bit of advice on iPhone or iOS.
USE Exchange Settings for your email (Gmail/Hotmail/Exchange Server all support ActiveSync or compatible settings and their immediate. I actually receive, read and file over 300 emails a day and I receive them on my iP4/IP4S seconds or up to 1min before my BB. Guess whats going? BB< Too many benefits on a real smartphone OS (iOS/Android) to count to compare where RIM has fallen.
 
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