RIM: Restructuring, possible sell-off

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  1. *LTD*, Apr 21, 2012
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    Jim Ballsilie in 2007, on the iPhone threat:

    Gobbledygook.

    But they did manage to scam consumers with the Playbook.

    Hat's off to RIM, that's quite an exit.
     
  2. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    That's one of the finest examples of "industry-speak", pomposity and unintelligible grammar that I've come across in a long time.

    If that's an example of their corporate thinking, no wonder they're in deep doo-doo.
     
  3. *LTD* thread starter macrumors G4

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    First thing I thought of:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLsDvGlIDh0
     
  4. boss.king macrumors 68040

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    How exactly did they scam people?
     
  5. bruinsrme macrumors 603

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    Because theyre not apple. Apple is the only honest company left, dontcha know.
     
  6. smoledman macrumors 68000

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    I dread the idea that the only vendor for all my computing needs will be Apple. I believe the future of freedom in computing is riding on the success of Windows 8. This is about a blow against mono-tech. Essentially the "big brother" figure in the Apple Macintosh ad from 1984 is now Apple themselves. It's chilling to even think about the irony of that.
     
  7. *LTD* thread starter macrumors G4

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    You'll always have other options. There'll still be Windows, Linux, etc.

    But it's difficult to be swayed away to another ecosystem, once committed to Apple's. They have a way of maintaining brand loyalty, and frankly, they've earned every bit of it.

    This isn't exactly a complaint, either. If I had to be "locked in" to anything, then let it be the stuff coming from Cupertino.
     
  8. smoledman macrumors 68000

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    Sorry but you have expressed your glee at the hopeful demise of Microsoft many times, so you definitely see a future with no Windows ecosystem in it. Also the idea that you trust Apple forever with all your computing needs is chilling to say the least. I prefer to use a variety of ecosystems.
     
  9. *LTD* thread starter macrumors G4

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    Yes, that is true. :)

    I certainly wouldn't mind seeing an end to that bloated pig of a company. Such a waste.

    Google is a much more worthy opponent for Apple (though still not a vertically-integrated competitor, which is a shame.) At least they have daring and aren't slower than molasses in January.
     
  10. smoledman macrumors 68000

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    What isn't daring about Windows 8, Windows Phone? I swear your hatred of Microsoft blinds you to the facts. Another fact is that if Nokia continues hemmoraging money, Microsoft will swallow them up and will be a fully vertically integrated company on smartphones and perhaps tablets as well.
     
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    When they stop inspiring that trust, I'll take my trust elsewhere.

    Apple continues to be a very safe bet for the foreseeable future, though.

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    There's a difference between "daring" and "dumb."

    iPhone and iPad = daring. Actually, hugely audacious.

    WP7 and Windows 8 = LOL.

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    And you think this bodes well for either company?

    You really don't know MS, do you?
     
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    Sorry but that's what I'd expect to read on Endgadget. Do you ever tire of the one-liners?
     
  13. blueroom macrumors 603

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    I had lunch with a fellow who had an Android based phone that cost him around $45 per month all in including tethering (Wind Mobile). I pay slightly more than that for my iPhone but I'm firmly entrenched in the Apple ecosystem (apps, iTunes, iCloud).

    It did have nifty lasers beams shooting across the app screens though :rolleyes:
     
  14. Dr McKay macrumors 68040

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    How is it a waste? Microsoft powers the Enterprise market, their integration of products like Office are second to none. They managed to become the major player in the console market in such a short amount of time (Which was said to be impossible)

    They've managed to produce a viable alternative to iOS and Android. Windows 8 looks very excited and so far has been a joy to use. At my workplace, The Eurofighter Typhoon onboard computers run on Windows NT 4. The Radar Displays run on Windows NT 4, (Soon to be upgraded to XP).

    What will happen to the world if Microsoft magically disappeared overnight? The world isn't suddenly going to become a better place If the entire world switched over to OS X, infact many companies would become bankrupt attempting to do so.
     
  15. LethalWolfe macrumors G3

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    That's the point of building a walled garden is it not? To get people so financially entangled that switching vendors becomes cost prohibitive.

    On a related note, w/what's gone down w/the pro users and Apple in past twelve months I've started buying/eyeballing software that's cross platform (some is even cross platform from a single license) and it's very liberating to not be locked into a specific OS or hardware vender.

    I guess that just goes to your point *LTD*, walled gardens are great... until they're not. ;)


    Lethal
     
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    Who said it was impossible ? Nintendo (with the NES) and Sony (with the Playstation) did it before them...
     
  17. Dr McKay macrumors 68040

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    They were told it was too late to jump into the Console market, that it was in Japans hands. (Playstation and Nintendo).
     
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    I disagree. But anything that isn't singing praise about Apple is anecdotal isn't it?
     
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    Seems like *LTD* wants all companies that aren't Apple to die, eh?

    It's funny, people have been forecasting RIM's death for years. And they will continue to do so for years to come. Just like the crazy guys who are convinced the world will end every week :)
     
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    I’d shut it down and give the money back to the shareholders.
     
  21. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    My understanding is if RIM was bought up that if it was not Western company it is more or less will be blocked by either Canada or the US.

    Chance are it will be even more limited that it will have to be either a Canadian or a US company that will even be able to buy it up with out facing some major road blocks from both the US and Canada. I could even see the EU getting involved in blocking it.

    A company like HTC would be blocked over security reasons.
     
  22. *LTD* thread starter macrumors G4

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    "A few weeks ago, Canadian Federal Finance Minister, Jim Flaherty, said his government wouldn't try to keep RIM from being acquired by a company based in another country."

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    Why would I want all?

    Just the non-performing dead-weight. The ones holding back the rest of the industry.
     
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    I agree and disagree. While Chinese buyers (more likely HU than HTC) would almost certainly be blocked, I don't see the same restrictions for EU-based concerns.

    The problem is, the people that have the money and would want RIM or pieces thereof aren't in the Western world - they're in China.
     
  24. chrono1081 macrumors 604

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    RIM made their own bed with this one, and its sad to know that lots of people may be jobless because of it.

    Blackberries have stagnated so bad that many places have gotten rid of them. My current and past TWO work places all went iOS/Android, as have several of my friends workplaces.

    Support for iOS/Android devices are a ton easier than support for Blackberries, the phones are better quality (depends which Android phone you get but the popular ones are usually good quality), and its easier to develop in house apps.
     
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    First off, assuming RIM is in fact a "dead-weight", how would it be "holding back the rest of the industry"? Surely if it truly is a dead-weight it'd simply fall behind?

    Second, there is still very much a market for BlackBerries, it's just becoming a bit more niche in a lot of places, hence the company having to readjust to this. IMO the only thing RIM is doing wrong is trying to copy iOS and Android - they should focus on doing what made them successful in the first place, which is making solid secure messaging phones. And with the refocus on business customers I hope they do just that.

    BBs are outselling iPhones something fierce in Middle Eastern markets BTW.
     

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