ringtone tab

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  1. jzay000 macrumors newbie

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    hello, im new to the iphone and itunes community, i just bought my iphone yesterday and for some reason i do not have a "ringtones" tab on my itunes page when my iphone is connected. is this because of the version i have downloaded? or another reason, please help, i would just like to use my MP3s as ringtones, im already over the boring selection iphone offers as ringtones.

    Thank you
    Jason

    (sorry if this was already posted or if it was posted in the wrong forum)
     
  2. mustang_dvs macrumors 6502a

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    Jason,

    Thanks to the RIAA, if you have an iPhone with firmware 1.1.1, you're SOL at the moment, aside from paying 99¢ for the songs they will let you buy. If you have a firmware 1.0.2, or earlier, and iTunes 7.4.2, your only option is iToner from Ambrosia.

    If you have 7.4.1 or 7.4.0, there are ways to add ringtones (they differ by iTunes version) -- all of them require a AAC file. (Rogue Amoeba has a program that will change MP3s into ringtone formatted AAC files.) You'll have to search the forums for those solutions.
     
  3. malenfant macrumors member

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    Um, don't pin this on the RIAA. The RIAA has said publicly that they consider a ringtone to be a part of a song, so if you already own a song, they're OK with you making a ringtone using any part of the song. (Yes, they actually said that.)

    The ringtone restriction on the iPhone is there because Apple wants it to be there, not the RIAA.
     
  4. chr1s60 macrumors 68000

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    Why couldn't it be ATT making Apple charge per tone? They sell ringtones for $2.50 and are the only company with iPhone. It makes sense to me that somewhere in the contract with Apple ringtones are mentioned. RIAA is still responsible for the way iTunes does ringtones. They make you buy the song from iTunes to make sure that you legally own the song. If not you could steal any song and use it. I think the issue is iTunes being able to know what songs are from legally bought cd's and other internet music stores. I am 100% certain the RIAA is not ok with people making ringtones from songs they stole.
     
  5. iVoid macrumors 65816

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    When the ringtones were first activated, I had to connect to the iTunes store once to get the ringtones tab to be activated in iTunes.
     
  6. malenfant macrumors member

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    No, the RIAA has nothing to do with this. Read:

    http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/07/know-your-rights-is-it-illegal-to-make-my-own-ringtones/

    You are correct that the RIAA isn't cool with people making ringtones from illegally-obtained music; then again, they're not cool with people even HAVING illegally-obtained music.

    The main fact here is that Apple is preventing all of us, even those of us who buy CDs and rip our music legally (not from iTunes), from being able to use the music we properly own as ringtones. This may be part of a deal they have with AT&T or the music companies, but Apple have gone out of their way to make it nigh-impossible for us to get around their ringtone system.
     
  7. Jocko macrumors member

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    LOL. Ok guys. It's not the RIAA's fault. So Apple charges for ringtones because of their contracts with the record labels. So it's the record labels' fault. And the RIAA represent which groups of company's? Uh-huh. Yeah.
     
  8. malenfant macrumors member

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    Jeez. How's that tinfoil hat fitting these days?

    Again: The RIAA considers ringtones to be derivative works. If you legally own a song, the RIAA says you should be able to make a ringtone out of it for FREE. This is not a problem on (for example) Windows Mobile, where you can copy any WAV file you want to the phone and use it as a ringtone. Apple and the music industry, NOT the RIAA, are the jerks in this case.
     

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