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To quote an old friend:

"It's been real, it's been fun, but it hasn't been real fun."

Used a few on different MB and MBP models. While I luckily never had any issues with them, they just weren't the same as the old keyboards.

Mind you: I am typing this on my home office iMac with an old school wired keyboard with numeric keypad, which, to me, is the BEST keyboard apple ever made.

Fare thee well butterfly. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

The classic original Microsoft Natural Elite (white) is quite possibly the finest keyboard ever made.
 
Something like this going across multiple products isn’t the result of one person. Even if it was dreamt up by one person getting it signed off on and put into multiple products is the result of many different teams across the company.

The butterfly keyboard first appeared in the 12” MacBook. One would assume it was designed to fit that product (selling feature was ultra thin and light with no fans). So why did the company decide to push it into their pro products? What was the decision making behind that? How did these keyboard issues never surface in QA? And if they did how was the keyboard ever signed off on for production? And once the company realized there was an issue why did it take so long to fix? I’d love to know the real backstory on this.
 
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Yeah I know I'm kinda sitting on a time bomb (if all the naysayers are to believed) but as long as it works (and it does for close to 3 years) it simply is my favourite keyboard.
I am really happy for you enjoying and appreciating this keyboard. I just can't stand (and understand) those who, even denying the evidence, wanted to diminish what was a problem for many users. Problems can happen, it's how you react after that makes a difference.
 
The Butterfly keyboard was flawed, but I did like the ideas it brought. A slimmer profile for more portable laptops, more stable keys, and less backlight bleed were all commendable goals. It's a shame the execution was as poor as it was. For what it's worth, I absolutely love typing on my Butterfly keyboard, albeit could never recommend it to anyone as it has been in for repairs twice.

I hope Apple don't stop trying new ways of doing things - but maybe test them in the real world a little more first...
 
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Yeah I know I'm kinda sitting on a time bomb (if all the naysayers are to believed) but as long as it works (and it does for close to 3 years) it simply is my favourite keyboard.

I honestly think most of the naysayers didn’t actually own one. I owned all three generations of the keyboard and never had an issue. None of my coworkers who have various iterations of the keyboard have had issues. I’m not saying issues didn’t exist, but like most issues reported in this forum, I highly suspect they’re massively overblown.

EDIT: Had to emphasize something because apparently people in this sub aren't reading my last sentence.
 
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So why did the company decide to push it into their pro products?

I am hypothesizing it's to help with the supply chain, i.e. profits.

And once the company realized there was an issue why did it take so long to fix?

I am guessing they perhaps had at least a 2 year product road map for it which comes coupled with the supply chain. They also were still selling enough Macbooks for a profit such that they didn't have to immediately address it. Apple juice is potent. Just look at some of the irrational fanboys on this forum.
 
I don't get it. I have had my MacBook since it came out....use it everyday...travel the world with it to data centers, client sites, and industry events. Been on over 100 flights in the checked luggage. Been dropped several times. Been in dusty environments. Had water spilled on it. Pretty much been abused as a workhorse......I have had zero issues with the keyboard. I don't know what people are doing to them, but it's clearly worse than how I treat it.....which is pretty rough. In fact, that is probably the most reliable Mac I have ever owned and has put up with the most abuse. The only sign of ware is the key imprints on the screen that have damaged the outer coating (other than the many dings).
 
I honestly think most of the naysayers didn’t actually own one. I owned all three generations of the keyboard and never had an issue. None of my coworkers who have various iterations of the keyboard have had issues. I’m not saying issues didn’t exist, but like most issues reported in this forum, I highly suspect they’re massively overblown.

On the other hand, I have a 2016 (personal) and 2018 MBP (work). The 2016 I don't use much, but the 2018 MBP I had work IT send to Apple to repair the keyboard. The keyboard now is much better than what was originally on the 2018 MBP. I asked IT, and they said the 2016-2018 MBPs they issue out to developers in the company have a very high defective rate on the butterfly keyboards.

Apple has a specific corporate keyboard replacement plan to address these issues. My assumption here is if they have a specific plan to address this, albeit not widely publicized, it's because it's not massively overblown.
 
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I may be one of the few but I actually liked the feel of these keyboards. But I get that they had reliability issues and even worse, no one trusted these keyboards. In the end, the feel of these keyboards was just way too divisive.
 
I don't get it. I have had my MacBook since it came out....use it everyday...travel the world with it to data centers, client sites, and industry events. Been on over 100 flights in the checked luggage. Been dropped several times. Been in dusty environments. Had water spilled on it. Pretty much been abused as a workhorse......I have had zero issues with the keyboard. I don't know what people are doing to them, but it's clearly worse than how I treat it.....which is pretty rough. In fact, that is probably the most reliable Mac I have ever owned and has put up with the most abuse. The only sign of ware is the key imprints on the screen that have damaged the outer coating (other than the many dings).
You don’t get it cause it haven’t happen to you, good on your mbp for taking a beating and not breaking, mine start double clicking 2 weeks in, it’s fine to say it hasn’t happen to you, but a lot of fanboys Here are arrogant and think it doesn’t happen to them so therefore the problem doesn’t exist
 
I am really happy for you enjoying and appreciating this keyboard. I just can't stand (and understand) those who, even denying the evidence, wanted to diminish what was a problem for many users. Problems can happen, it's how you react after that makes a difference.

I don't think anyone is denying there's an issue. OTOH, I doubt it's the overwhelming majority of people having problems.

I have no issues with mine; and actually type faster and more accurately than with any other past Apple keyboard. And that's using my MBP many hours a day, every day of the year, on multiple projects for the last few years.

Please, try and deal with the fact that many people don't have issues and actually like the keyboard. It's not a conspiracy to get worked up about.
 
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Good, love the magic keyboard on my iPad Pro. Can’t see them going away from this on the macs either now.
 
I honestly think most of the naysayers didn’t actually own one. I owned all three generations of the keyboard and never had an issue. None of my coworkers who have various iterations of the keyboard have had issues. I’m not saying issues didn’t exist, but like most issues reported in this forum, I highly suspect they’re massively overblown.

Apple apologists never stop twisting themselves into pretzels trying to defend what after 3 years was clearly one of the worst and most expensive decisions in the company's history. I find it utterly amazing that there are still people who try to act like those of us who had multiple keyboard/topcase replacements were just loud and obnoxious and didn't own them. My 2017 MBP was in need of its 3rd keyboard replacement when i traded it in for a 16" MBP -- and I have owned a MB Air (with the same keyboard design) since my MBP's keyboard first failed on a business trip and I needed a computer while Apple repaired it. Sure, I could have returned it within 30 days and not gotten stuck with the expense, but given all the reports it was a good decision, seeing the keyboard failed two more times. But having to buy a backup to a brand new $3500 laptop just so I can keep typing means YES, I am going to complain like hell about the issue.
 
On the other hand, I have a 2016 (personal) and 2018 MBP (work). The 2016 I don't use much, but the 2018 MBP I had work IT send to Apple to repair the keyboard. The keyboard now is much better than what was originally on the 2018 MBP. I asked IT, and they said the 2016-2018 MBPs they issue out to developers in the company have a very high defective rate on the butterfly keyboards.

Apple has a specific corporate keyboard replacement plan to address these issues. My assumption here is if they have a specific plan to address this, albeit not widely publicized, it's because it's not massively overblown.

Again, I'm not saying there aren't issues, I'm just saying I think they're overblown. If you look at these forums you'd think every single butterfly keyboard is bad, yet at work there are 0 failures out of 65 laptops we have issued. For me personally it's 0 out of 3 laptops. The failure rate is likely far lower than this forum would have people believe.
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Apple apologists never stop twisting themselves into pretzels trying to defend what after 3 years was clearly one of the worst and most expensive decisions in the company's history. I find it utterly amazing that there are still people who try to act like those of us who had multiple keyboard/topcase replacements were just loud and obnoxious and didn't own them. My 2017 MBP was in need of its 3rd keyboard replacement when i traded it in for a 16" MBP -- and I have owned a MB Air (with the same keyboard design) since my MBP's keyboard first failed on a business trip and I needed a computer while Apple repaired it. Sure, I could have returned it within 30 days and not gotten stuck with the expense, but given all the reports it was a good decision, seeing the keyboard failed two more times. But having to buy a backup to a brand new $3500 laptop just so I can keep typing means YES, I am going to complain like hell about the issue.

Please read what I wrote, carefully this time, instead of trying to be snarky.
 
I honestly think most of the naysayers didn’t actually own one. I owned all three generations of the keyboard and never had an issue. None of my coworkers who have various iterations of the keyboard have had issues. I’m not saying issues didn’t exist, but like most issues reported in this forum, I highly suspect they’re massively overblown.
Ok. So how come Apple did remove it from present laptops available for sale? Just an upgrade?
 
Good riddance.

Meanwhile my A and spacebar keys is starting sticky right now, on 2018 MBP. Anyone defending butterfly keyboard must be nuts.
 
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