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riker1384

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Jun 29, 2007
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I just bought a collection of 200 used CDs. I haven't ripped them yet. I'm not sure how I want to do it. I don't think I have space for lossless. It bothers me that ripping to AAC limits the players I can use. Sansas don't play AAC, and there are tons of car stereos and various things that can play mp3 files these days. I don't like being stuck to only using Ipods.

In the past I've ripped in 128 AAC, and sometimes 256 AAC.

What do you guys think is better? If I rip at, say, 192 AAC, is the quality gain over mp3 enough to be worth the loss in compatibility?
 
MP3 at the highest bit rate you can while still maintaining the size footprint you want.
 
Personally, I'd buy more storage. Ripping 200 CD's is a giant time commitment. By the time every disc is inserted, ripped, labeled and organized you will be at at least 20 hours of your time, likely much more.

By ripping to lossless, you are assured that you will have good copies of the music and access to the entire collection with whatever device you want (it may require a transcode, but computer time is cheap). You would need ~150 gigs to fit the music as wav. 1 TB now is <$100. Would you work for 20-40 hours and be happy with being paid less than $100?
 
I just bought a collection of 200 used CDs. I haven't ripped them yet. I'm not sure how I want to do it. I don't think I have space for lossless. It bothers me that ripping to AAC limits the players I can use. Sansas don't play AAC, and there are tons of car stereos and various things that can play mp3 files these days. I don't like being stuck to only using Ipods.

In the past I've ripped in 128 AAC, and sometimes 256 AAC.

What do you guys think is better? If I rip at, say, 192 AAC, is the quality gain over mp3 enough to be worth the loss in compatibility?

The only reason that there are players not playing AAC is because of Microsoft's "PlayForSure" program where all the manufacturers were ******** themselves at the idea of being Apple-compatible and annoying Microsoft. Turns out that Microsoft shafted them all when the Zune was released, not compatible with PlayForSure, and compatible with AAC.

200 CDs in Apple Lossless is maybe 60 to 80 GB. Rip in Apple Lossless and put the result on your backup drive (if you don't have one, BUY ONE RIGHT NOW), then put the CDs away. Now you can convert from Apple Lossless to anything you like. 192 KBit/sec AAC is for my ears with good headphones not distinguishable from the original. 160 KBit/sec MP3 makes an audible difference. But if you have the original in Apple Lossless, you can change your mind at any time.
 
Personally, I'd buy more storage. Ripping 200 CD's is a giant time commitment. By the time every disc is inserted, ripped, labeled and organized you will be at at least 20 hours of your time, likely much more.

By ripping to lossless, you are assured that you will have good copies of the music and access to the entire collection with whatever device you want (it may require a transcode, but computer time is cheap). You would need ~150 gigs to fit the music as wav. 1 TB now is <$100. Would you work for 20-40 hours and be happy with being paid less than $100?

Buying more storage is not a bad idea but I'd still stick with mp3s. I've ripped around 1800 CDs into my library (mostly 192k mp3), which is just over 150GB. I know I can play them on almost any player, Windows or Mac, or burn them to CDs with great sound quality.
 
160kbps VBR MP3 if you need the compatibility. AAC doesn't have much of an advantage at that range anyway. If you're used to 128kbps AAC, this is a significant step above that.
 
Personally, I'd buy more storage. Ripping 200 CD's is a giant time commitment. By the time every disc is inserted, ripped, labeled and organized you will be at at least 20 hours of your time, likely much more.
I don't think the time commitment is all that great. I can set iTunes to automatically rip a disk when I insert it. It also automatically get the CD track info and album art. All I have to do is insert the discs and eject them, and let it rip them while I do other stuff on my computer.

If I want to convert the stuff I already have into mp3, I know transcoding intoo 128 mp3 would lose quality, but does transcoding hurt quality much if I do it into a higher rate, like 128 AAC to 192 mp3?

I do have a backup drive, it doesn't have 60GB free. My main drive does, but I'd have to set it not to back up the music files, and it would get pretty full holding the lossless AND lossy copies at the same time. I think I have some unused DVD-Rs somewhere, maybe I could put lossless files on those. I don't want to blow $100 on a drive now.

Are there any compatibility issues with Apple Lossless? In the future, if I'm not using iTunes will other programs be able to decode them?
 
If I want to convert the stuff I already have into mp3, I know transcoding intoo 128 mp3 would lose quality, but does transcoding hurt quality much if I do it into a higher rate, like 128 AAC to 192 mp3?

Transcoding up in bit rate is a terrible idea. You end up with larger files that sound (at the very best) exactly as the smaller files did. Think of taking a thumbnail of an image and printing it on a big sheet of paper, sure it's big, but the data was already lost and now you just have a bigger blurry image.

If you are encoding in a new format, you should always start from the best copy of the source material available to you (in your case that would mean going back to the CD's as you don't have the room to store lossless).
 
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