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And I meant it...

Oh, me too. I just mean that it would seem like whether or not someone actually wanted this in their notebook would play a role in whether they'd delay getting a Macbook Pro! ;)

I dunno... I go through on and off phases where I carry my notebook around with me, but whenever I do, I pretty invariably would prefer it to be, like you said, very thin and light. I'd make most of the same trades you would.

And given that I have a Blackberry and not an iPhone, I'd still see a lot that I'd do on a notebook -- report writing, reading journal articles and doing patient research, etc, etc.

Although I do notice that I usually don't feel the need to keep Mail or GMail open anymore on my iBook, since I have my BB sitting next to it. :)
 
Yes. I did. And yes, I would have drastically hoped for a subnotebook-- if, like I posted, it weren't for the advent of the iPhone/touch which make it almost a moot point for me. :p

See, I'm the type of person that would want both an iPhone and a subnotebook. I would use the notebook for "school" stuff like writing notes and such, and the iPhone for getting myself out of a boring lecture:p

Even though the notebook can function as a "fun" device, the iPhone just fits that "fun" paradigm so much better.
 
What they need is to make the trackpad out of an iPhone screen. Then you would not only have multitouch, but have a programmable / context sensitive touchpad. I know they had patents lately that showed some sort of color changing touchpad.
 
These numbers are very high, even if you include Mac mini, Mac Pro and MacBook Pro sales.

I bet The Street has no idea that there are more than two Mac models on the market. :rolleyes:


I agree. Ramping-up production takes time. If there was such a spike in Mac purchasing I'm sure DigiTimes would chime in quoting anonymous manufacturing reps.
 
Guys...

i know everyone wants a sub-notebook. I definitely do. But do not read anything into what The Street says. They admittedly pump false info into the market to influence stock prices. Just google Apple - Moritz - Cramer - Wolverton and be amazed at the FUD these guys spread before they want to invest. Screw The Street and Jim Cramer. I would bet more on the 9to5mac info then The Street. ;)
 
These numbers are very high, even if you include Mac mini, Mac Pro and MacBook Pro sales.

I bet The Street has no idea that there are more than two Mac models on the market. :rolleyes:

Yeah, that number does seem to be inclusive of all Mac sales, not just iMacs and macbooks. Oh well, we'll just wait a few (and maybe a few more) more weeks for Apple's 4th Quarter results to be out.
 
I don't believe the street's numbers. I think they're too high. 2M seems about right, maybe 2.1. I dont think the halo effect is that strong - most people I know who bought an iPhone were mac-heads already (or in my case, hybrids since I have an XP desktop and a MacBook, c'mon xMac!).
 
yes! Yes! YES!

That would be magnificant if it were released soon!

Looks like my girlfriend will be getting a hand me down 12in pb...lucky girl!
 
Great....I was planning on buying a MacBook Pro in the next few weeks...

Should I wait now?

If you've investigated the current options and think that a Macbook Pro meets your needs and a standard Macbook does not, then you will find that this sub-notebook, if that is what it is, will not meet your needs.

That being said, I'm like you; planning a MBP purchase for after Leopard (late october...?) but wondering now if I should hold out for Penryn or Macworld or whatever... January is far away, I'll need a new machine before then.

Of course, I wouldn't be thinking this at all if I didn't come to these sites, I'd buy, and be mad later when the update came out. At least now, I can gamble, I can choose to buy despite the knowledge I might be outdated within months, but I won't be mad, because I knew.
 
Ignore "The Street" and Scott Moritz entirely. They can't even be counted on to make educated guesses--the invent things for their own profit. They invent fake good news and bad news alike, and are likely to report something as true when they actually think it's NOT true, so they can later report some fictional "problem" at Apple that prevented it from happening.

They completely fabricate sources and rumors, and have been clearly shown to make a habit of this again and again.

This article discusses about The Street's "analysts" intentionally manipulating Apple (and other) stock prices with false info, and admitting brazenly on video that they are lying--and how illegal it is--but saying that it's profitable to invent these lies. And, clearly, getting away with it:

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q3.07/F521AA31-1E02-4DF1-86C3-AA022A105D18.html

Seeding false reports of bad Apple news is easy, as Cramer explained, “If I were short Apple, I would be working very hard today to get that. And the way you would do that is pick up the phone and call six trading desks. And say, listen, I just got off the phone with my contact at Verizon, and he has already said 'listen, we’re a Lucky G [LG] house, we're a Samsung house, we’re a Motorola house. There is no room for Apple. They want too much. We are not going to let them in. We are not going to let them do what they did to music.' And that’s a very effective way to keep a stock down.”

“What's important when you're in that hedge fund mode is to not do anything remotely truthful. Because the truth is so against your view that it's important to create a new truth, to develop a fiction. The fiction is developed by almost anybody who is down by 2% or up 6%. You can't take any chances, you can't have the market up any more than it is if you're up 6.”


Amazing :(
 
Sub-notebook-sub-notebook-sub-notebook.

If this notebook is like a sub it will sink.

I want to know exactly what a subnotebook would aid? If they can make it a touch screen, flash drive, wifi-blue tooth utilizing-cintiq screen mofo, then it will rule. If it is just a cheesy, small size, more-of-the-same type thing, it will be very disappointing. It should be made to be a note pad affair for note taking; no flip up screen, no keyboard, and total writing/art control.

And it should do the dishes.
 
I want to know exactly what a subnotebook would aid?

It would aid portability. I have a 15" PowerBook now, and have tried carrying around a friend's 13" MacBook too. I want something smaller. Some say "deal with it, carry something bigger," but that ignores the age-old fact that people DO find value in smaller and lighter.

And I wish this rumor came from a credible source, because a 12"-or-smaller MacBook Pro is what I've been waiting to buy.
 
Portability is what we have.

You have to offer a bit more then portability in the current market. So it would be helpful to make it portable, AND functional. A MacMiniPowerBook sounds kinda assy to me.
 
If Apple do this then will it:

(A) be a beautiful device, costing similar to other subnotebooks from Sony, etc - i.e., a lot

(B) be a beautiful device, at a decent price because Apple's expertise in manufacturing compact devices lets the do this at a decent price.

(C) be a reasonably nice looking device, a bargain for what it is, although it will still have a lot. $799, but far more desirable and useful than an Asus Eee PC.

The fact is, decent sub notebooks, with decent screens, non-anaemic CPUs and good design, are fricking expensive.
 
And I wish this rumor came from a credible source, because a 12"-or-smaller MacBook Pro is what I've been waiting to buy.

The subnotebook rumors are multi-sourced now, so we don't need to rely on TheStreet.com for credibility. For me, the lightest smallest Mac I can use for making Keynote presentations, surfing and e-mail is just what the doctor ordered. It sure doesn't need to have a mondo hard drive, or even to be cutting-edge fast.
 
The fact is, decent sub notebooks, with decent screens, non-anaemic CPUs and good design, are fricking expensive.

Yep. And I'll pay it! Or if Apple chooses a compromise between small performance and price, I'll take that. Now, if Apple goes rock-bottom and low-cost, it will be a great machine for some but is NOT what I'm after.

The subnotebook rumors are multi-sourced now, so we don't need to rely on TheStreet.com for credibility. For me, the lightest smallest Mac I can use for making Keynote presentations, surfing and e-mail is just what the doctor ordered. It sure doesn't need to have a mondo hard drive, or even to be cutting-edge fast.

In fact, I hope it has no HD at all. Even if it means limited capacity and high price, I want flash storage! Light, fast, power-efficient, and no moving parts! 64 GB would suit me fine. I have a 60 GB iPod to attach when I need more space.
 
They expect the new subnotebook next quarter in time for the holiday sales season, and even claim a memo has been circulated to tell some employees to cancel vacation plans between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

aww come on! that's the best time to go to Disney! Let them support Jobs' other employer.
 
Rather than trying to shrink the MB or MBP, I'd think Apple would come at this from the other direction--growing the iPhone. To me, that makes a lot more sense than trying to shrink current laptops because it would let them do something really different.

And no, I don't mean to make an iPhone with a 9 inch screen, though they could probably incorporate phone functionality also. Also, a bit further afield, but couldn't the iPhone be the first step to a world where we use an iPhone like device to tap back to a desktop we have parked at home? Not an IT person, but rather like a thin client model?
 
now that i saw this on 9to5mac I believe its true. well i WANT to believe its true.. i SOOO want a mini mini mini apple laptop. PLEASE jobs make it a black christmas this year.
 
In fact, I hope it has no HD at all. Even if it means limited capacity and high price, I want flash storage! Light, fast, power-efficient, and no moving parts! 64 GB would suit me fine. I have a 60 GB iPod to attach when I need more space.

Half that much flash RAM would be fine for me. A sub is not supposed to be a desktop Mac replacement. I think it would be very cool if Apple took the iPhone/Touch interface to the next natural step in this product. Give me a display with a touch interface and a wireless keyboard and I'm in hog heaven!
 
In fact, I hope it has no HD at all. Even if it means limited capacity and high price, I want flash storage! Light, fast, power-efficient, and no moving parts! 64 GB would suit me fine. I have a 60 GB iPod to attach when I need more space.

I think that if Apple is serious about this subnotebook, then Flash would be the only viable storage solution. Here's hoping:eek:
 
One thought in favor of this being a new MacBook and NOT a sub-Pro: Penryn is coming in January, and it would make sense to release new Pro models then. Meanwhile, holiday shopping is coming now, which makes this a good time to refresh the consumer models. And the Back To School promo may have cleared out a lot of the old MacBooks too.

It does seem that the plastic MacBooks haven't been out that long--it feels too early for a total replacement. But I seem to recall the iMac G5 got a near-total redesign (albeit with the same basic styling) pretty quickly. So it happens.

Black aluminum is definitely the future I see for the Pro line--and maybe the consumer line as well. A choice of real colors would be even cooler! Orange or red MacBook Pro Nano please!
 
If is got Penryn + Santa Rosa, I'll be interested, otherwise I'll wait for that. That means that it won't ship until at least November 12, 2007 when Penryn is "officially" released.
 
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