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Eric8199

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Sorry if this is the wrong place for this. Might be a little long. I know there are a lot of people on the fence about the new rMB versus other computers, so I wanted to give you my impressions after using this as my main machine for the last week.

A couple precursors: I'm coming from a 2012 rMPB 15" which I am keeping to do any heavy lifting I might need to do. The rMB is a secondary computer for being on the road and out and about. However, I have used it almost exclusively since I bought it to test it out. Second, I am a journalist and amateur vlogger. My use case is mostly Safari and Microsoft Word. I've used it a little bit for QuarkXpress 8, some light Lightroom and Photoshop, and have edited three vlogs so far in FCPX.

First, I was concerned whether it could handle FCPX. I've edited three 10-20 minute 1080p videos for YouTube on it without so much as a hiccup. The only difference between this and my rMBP is it takes longer to export. That's it. Otherwise, cake. Every other use case, no problems. It rarely stutters, and when it does, it's nothing major. I love this computer, and could easily use it as my only computer. It will be my primary work computer.

I have an old MBA 11" 1st gen at work, and it's amazing that this thing is actually SMALLER than that computer, because it FEELS bigger. Obviously the screen is larger, but that computer feels to cramped to be a primary machine. This one does not.

Now, issues I have:
-I was not sure if I would like the keyboard. However, after using it for a week, I love it. Except when I don't. I find that even with the shorter throw, you have to hit the keys harder. I feel like I'm pounding on them when I type. It still feels better than my MBP though. Also, I tend to miss the period key all the time. I don't hit it hard enough, or there's a problem with it, because I often have to go back and put the period in. I think I'm just not hitting it hard enough.

-The trackpad. I love Apple's trackpads, and after playing with this one in the store, I really thought I was going to love this even more. But I don't. It fascinates me that it doesn't actually click. However, I find when I click it, sometimes it clicks too easy. I am used to clicking with my thumb and dragging and sometimes it feels like it unclicks but the item is still selected. It's weird. After a week I really don't like it, and wish I could have my old trackpad back. I can deal with it, and I will. But I much prefer the old style.

Overall, this thing is amazing, and I totally recommend it. The screen is beautiful. The battery life is magnificent. Even with the annoyances of the trackpad, I give this thing a 9.5 out of 10. I would love one more port, but I bought the $80 Apple HDMI dongle, and it does what I need it to do without much annoyance. My favorite thing: I can stick this thing in my iPad bag! It's so small and light, it really makes the 11" air feel like a brick.

If you're on the fence, I HIGHLY recommend you buy one of these and try it for a week. For most, I think you will find that you LOVE this computer.
 
You don't have to be so heavy handed with the new trackpad. You had to press hard because if you were to press it in the middle or at the top on the previous trackpad, you had to use more force.

Go easy on it, don't punch it with your finger. :p
 
Hmm. I love the new trackpad even more than the old one.

The big thing for me is force-click while moving files around to a different location, rather than having to hover and wait for the system to decide to open the folder i am hovering over.

I'll admit that the "click" takes a little getting used to, but the additional functionality is worth it IMHO. It only took a few minutes to adjust for me.
 
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Journalist? Newspaper? Magazine? Broadcast? Freelance? Wannabe (blogger.) As a longtime mac user, print journalist and published author who uses Word, I'm considering it (when the price drops.) Did you buy the base?
 
Journalist? Newspaper? Magazine? Broadcast? Freelance? Wannabe (blogger.) As a longtime mac user, print journalist and published author who uses Word, I'm considering it (when the price drops.) Did you buy the base?
I am a print/online journalist for a newspaper — actually a group three.

I bought the base model as the small jumps in the processor didn't seem worth the large jump in price. I used a Best Buy Movers Coupon and bought an open box, bringing my cost before tax to right around $1K. I had to get the silver model instead of the space gray that I really wanted, but it was worth it for the discount. I HIGHLY recommend checking Best Buy for open boxes if you have that option, as they said there a lot of people are returning them because they don't realize there is a lack of ports.

Also, to clarify, my issues with the trackpad are by no means a deal breaker. It's still a million times better than any trackpad/touchpad on any Windows device. I just prefer the old style a lot more — I'm just used to that feeling. What they have done with this force touch trackpad is amazing though, and I think force touch on an iPhone is going to be pretty amazing. It just isn't the great thing I expected it to be on the Mac. I'm "used" to it. I just still don't particularly like it.
 
Also, I tend to miss the period key all the time. I don't hit it hard enough, or there's a problem with it, because I often have to go back and put the period in. I think I'm just not hitting it hard enough.

Just as an FYI, there are a number of people complaining of this issue with various keys. They are getting their MacBooks replaced. Suggest you do the same - but be prepared for the 4-6 week wait!

More: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-keyboard-h-key.1867551/
 
The whole thing takes a bit of adjustment. But in a good way, IMHO
 
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The whole thing takes a bit of adjustment. But in a good way, IMHO

I agree with this comment, its such a big change from the MBP and Air... After one week of having my second go at the rMB I love using it and its battery has been awesome. I think if it suits your computer usage then it is a really amazing computer.
 
Force touch is one of my favorite features of the new macs. It's the first trackpad ever that's completely consistent in the required pressure no matter where you use it.
 
Force touch is one of my favorite features of the new macs. It's the first trackpad ever that's completely consistent in the required pressure no matter where you use it.

Im still getting used to it, but I still prefer tap to click... One thing about all apple trackpads is that they are way ahead of PC laptops... with a Macbook I feel I don't need to use a mouse at all
 
Im still getting used to it, but I still prefer tap to click... One thing about all apple trackpads is that they are way ahead of PC laptops... with a Macbook I feel I don't need to use a mouse at all

I've generally preferred tap to click, but since Force Touch I've realized that was probably because no trackpad before has been consistent in the amount of pressure required. Tapping was a way around this.
 
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I've generally preferred tap to click, but since Force Touch I've realized that was probably because no trackpad before has been consistent in the amount of pressure required. Tapping was a way around this.

Cool, I prefer tap to click as I find it easier on my fingers... Ive never liked pressing on trackpads. Its great that you have so much choice now on the trackpad and set it up the way you like to interact with it.
 
I can't use tap to click because then I end up accidentally clicking on stuff all the time. haha.

I agree about Mac trackpads being so far ahead. I rarely use a mouse, and only when I'm doing graphic design work. Otherwise, I only use the trackpad. I haven't even paired a mouse with my rMB yet.
 
Any of you using the new trackpad that also use tap to click like I do - are you still using the "real" click when you drag and move files or windows or do you use three finger drag now exclusively with the new trackpad?
 
I am light on the trackpad, so I mainly use tap to click, unless I have to drag something.
 
Any of you using the new trackpad that also use tap to click like I do - are you still using the "real" click when you drag and move files or windows or do you use three finger drag now exclusively with the new trackpad?

Yup, I'll use both depending on what I'm doing. I life to have options. Also since the rMB is the computer I use around the house as well I find that sometimes depending on the position I'm in (laying in bed, sitting in a couch, on a desk) can affect whether I'm clicking or tapping, So I'll go back an forth on it.
 
I went to the local Apple Store a couple of days ago, intending to check out the new retina MacBook after researching it online and comparing it with Apple's other laptop models, planning to order one for my wife once I'd finalized my choice. After looking at it for a while and discussing with the Apple specialist, I was pleasantly surprised to learn that they had a few in stock (Apple online had not shown any stock at my store and was showing 2+ week delivery). I ended up going home with the silver 256GB model.

It is an incredibly slim and lightweight laptop. Very fast to boot up. I like the keyboard and the trackpad. For our uses I don't really see any deficiencies.

My home office computer is a 6 month old retina iMac with solid state hard drive as well, so I'm very pleased to have equipment with few (or no) moving parts to fail, as well as the greater responsiveness of the solid-state hard drive.
 
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Just as an FYI, there are a number of people complaining of this issue with various keys. They are getting their MacBooks replaced. Suggest you do the same - but be prepared for the 4-6 week wait!

More: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-keyboard-h-key.1867551/
I just saw your post and noticed this morning on closer inspection that there DOES seem to be a problem with that particular key. It seems to be uneven or something. I might have to look at getting that fixed.

It's a Best Buy open box machine, should I go to Best Buy first or just go straight to Apple?
 
I just saw your post and noticed this morning on closer inspection that there DOES seem to be a problem with that particular key. It seems to be uneven or something. I might have to look at getting that fixed.

It's a Best Buy open box machine, should I go to Best Buy first or just go straight to Apple?

You need to return it to Best Buy. Apple will advise you to do the same. They MIGHT offer to fix it (you can demand a fix under warranty), but do you really want a patched MacBook on day three? I wouldn't.
 
You need to return it to Best Buy. Apple will advise you to do the same. They MIGHT offer to fix it (you can demand a fix under warranty), but do you really want a patched MacBook on day three? I wouldn't.
I don't think that is true actually, based on other posts I've read and past experience. The computer is still under warranty, so as long as it is a warranty fix, it should still be something Apple will fix. And based on others having similar issues, as was addressed in this thread, it sounds like others are having the same issue and it's pretty widespread.

Note the discussion in the thread that was linked from here — one person purchased their machine from Best Buy and Apple allowed him to exchange it and pay the difference for a better machine. So I believe you are incorrect.
 
I don't think that is true actually, based on other posts I've read and past experience. The computer is still under warranty, so as long as it is a warranty fix, it should still be something Apple will fix. And based on others having similar issues, as was addressed in this thread, it sounds like others are having the same issue and it's pretty widespread.

Note the discussion in the thread that was linked from here — one person purchased their machine from Best Buy and Apple allowed him to exchange it and pay the difference for a better machine. So I believe you are incorrect.

That's why I said you can DEMAND a fix. It just doesn't make sense to do so, and I simply questioned whether you'd be happy with a patched up MacBook that's only a few days old. I wouldn't, personally.

My personal experience with an almost identical situation with my rMB is that the retail store employees will, quite rightly, recommend you return it to the store you bought it from and demand a new one. I am in the UK, however.

If you manage to return an open-box Best Buy purchase to an official Apple retail store, I'd be hugely surprised. Give it a go, if you've got one nearby!
 
That's why I said you can DEMAND a fix. It just doesn't make sense to do so, and I simply questioned whether you'd be happy with a patched up MacBook that's only a few days old. I wouldn't, personally.

My personal experience with an almost identical situation with my rMB is that the retail store employees will, quite rightly, recommend you return it to the store you bought it from and demand a new one. I am in the UK, however.

If you manage to return an open-box Best Buy purchase to an official Apple retail store, I'd be hugely surprised. Give it a go, if you've got one nearby!

Based on other people's posts, Apple is not fixing these, they're simply replacing them, like the do with iPads/iPhones. Therefore, they would likely replace mine too, not fix it.

I don't want to return this to Best Buy and spend extra money on a replacement because I had several discounts which saved me $300+ on my purchase that I will lose if I return this machine.

I don't plan to RETURN anything. I plan to get either a replacement or have mine fixed.
 
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