rMB is the iPad Pro

[macguy360]

For the past year, people have been predicting an iPad Pro, but Apple has not delivered. Here were the expectations of it....

iPad Pro
12" Screen
Running full OS X
Ultra Portable
Retina Screen
Keyboard compatibility similar to Surface tablets
Meant as a more compelling iPad for productivity
Single Port
Slightly more powerful processor
Fanless design

Here is what rMB delivers
12" Screen
Running full OS X
Ultra Portable
Retina Screen
Keyboard
Non Touch-Screen
Single Port
Slightly more powerful processor but basically same level as iPad Air 2
Fanless design

So literally the only difference between the rMB and the expected iPad Pro is that the rMB doesn't have touch screen, but does have a keyboard.

Performance wise, the rMB performs as if you were to take the processor out of the iPad Air 2 and put it in a laptop.

It isn't likely that Apple is going to release a 12" iPad Pro now that the rMB has filled that niche. The rMB is likely the 12" device that rumors have been mentioning.

 

[saifrc]

What about this?

https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/ipad-pro/

 

[212rikanmofo]

I can agree with that because this new MacBook is definitely replacing my iPad all together.

 

[Nicky G]

I think iPad Pro may be a separate thing. But yeah, my new rMB is getting a lot more use than my iPads ever did (and I've owned basically every model of iPad released so far). I still see myself keeping an iPad, but my annual refresh cycle will be much more oriented around the rMB than the iPad line.

 

[Mcdevidr]

Another one of these threads.

I don't think the processors are equivalent. I still want an iPad pro so it doesn't fill my need. I need something to display sheet music on a 12 inch 4:3 ratio screen would be the best. The iPad is too small for a full sheet.

 

[macguy360]

Another one of these threads.

I don't think the processors are equivalent. I still want an iPad pro so it doesn't fill my need. I need something to display sheet music on a 12 inch 4:3 ratio screen would be the best. The iPad is too small for a full sheet.

Geek bench says otherwise. The similarity in processing power is too close to distinguish.

 

[Mcdevidr]

Geek bench says otherwise. The similarity in processing power is too close to distinguish.

True I forgot geekbench is the one tool to rule them all.

Actually what I see is a 33% discrepancy in single core performance. Multi core maybe a wash but I would bet the MacBook is better in sustained loads.

 

[macguy360]

True I forgot geekbench is the one tool to rule them all.

Actually what I see is a 33% discrepancy in single core performance. Multi core maybe a wash but I would bet the MacBook is better in sustained loads.

I mentioned that cpu performance was expected to be slightly better in the iPad Pro compared to the regular iPad. I would say a 33% gain fits that definition. You are arguing semantics

 

[Mcdevidr]

True. I hope they still come out with an iPad plus or pro or whatever it will be. It will be great for musicians.

 

[macguy360]

True. I hope they still come out with an iPad plus or pro or whatever it will be. It will be great for musicians.

I would like that too. I want an iPad Pro with keyboard compatibility similar to Surface and running full OS X

 

[Hankster]

For the past year, people have been predicting an iPad Pro, but Apple has not delivered. Here were the expectations of it....

iPad Pro
12" Screen
Running full OS X
Ultra Portable
Retina Screen
Keyboard compatibility similar to Surface tablets
Meant as a more compelling iPad for productivity
Single Port
Slightly more powerful processor
Fanless design

Here is what rMB delivers
12" Screen
Running full OS X
Ultra Portable
Retina Screen
Keyboard
Non Touch-Screen
Single Port
Slightly more powerful processor but basically same level as iPad Air 2
Fanless design

So literally the only difference between the rMB and the expected iPad Pro is that the rMB doesn't have touch screen, but does have a keyboard.

Performance wise, the rMB performs as if you were to take the processor out of the iPad Air 2 and put it in a laptop.

It isn't likely that Apple is going to release a 12" iPad Pro now that the rMB has filled that niche. The rMB is likely the 12" device that rumors have been mentioning.

An iPad will never run a full OS X. iPads run on mobile platforms along with the app store. Take away iOS and the iPads are not iPads. There is a reason 99% of iOS apps cannot be found on Mac Apps.

 

[newellj]

A lot of people seem to expect the iPad Pro, with a 12.9" screen, too. That would be an interesting crossover.

 

[OrdinaryAvgGuy]

A lot of people seem to expect the iPad Pro, with a 12.9" screen, too. That would be an interesting crossover.

And even more useful for musicians. I wanted something in that size for a long time.

 

[5errated]

Geek bench says otherwise. The similarity in processing power is too close to distinguish.

geek bench is bull ****. it's a really rough gauge, but not all-telling.

reasoning? core M is still a full desktop architecture. that means it gets all of the fancy intel instruction sets. those matter.

 

[leman]

Geek bench says otherwise. The similarity in processing power is too close to distinguish.

You can't compare Geekbench scores across platforms and architectures. Geekbench is known to report high numbers in ARM chips, even though they are sugnificsntly slower in real world applications

 

[Newtons Apple]

I do not agree and the MacBook is not a replacement for the iPad Pro. To me there is a huge difference in a laptop and tablet for function in the field.

I am not saying that I would not like the power of the MacBook in a tablet, I just think that Apple will deliver a separate device in tablet form. A laptop could never replace my iPad/tablet.

 

[212rikanmofo]

I do not agree and the MacBook is not a replacement for the iPad Pro. To me there is a huge difference in a laptop and tablet for function in the field.

I am not saying that I would not like the power of the MacBook in a tablet, I just think that Apple will deliver a separate device in tablet form. A laptop could never replace my iPad/tablet.

It could for some. To me the new MacBook is like an iPad with a keyboard. The size, and portability being even smaller now makes it a more qualified iPad replacement for me.

 

[ct1211]

I think iPad Pro may be a separate thing. But yeah, my new rMB is getting a lot more use than my iPads ever did (and I've owned basically every model of iPad released so far). I still see myself keeping an iPad, but my annual refresh cycle will be much more oriented around the rMB than the iPad line.

Your iPad "refresh" will shorten. Any of us ordering a rMB will still be contending with a new iPad something come October. Bigger, Stylus support (iPen) just a gaggle of ways to get us back in the stores. Others like the Surface line with integrated pen, touch etc. are catching on. This will be Apples response. Plus they have probably noticed Wacom selling $99 pens in vain attempts to work with the current iPad. Apple can sell pens for $199 Sport $499 Stainless and $6,000 in Gold. Another fashion item coming.

 

[MacManTexas56]

I can agree with that because this new MacBook is definitely replacing my iPad all together.

how is this machine any different than the 11inch macbook air (i know retina and fanless etc.)? but i'm talking size wise and portability wise. Also, it's not a touch screen...so not sure how you replace an iPad with it.

I have one...but i don't see how it replaces my iPad Mini 2 or iPad Air 2?

I don't get why people are comparing this to an iPad....

 

[newellj]

how is this machine any different than the 11inch macbook air (i know retina and fanless etc.)? but i'm talking size wise and portability wise. Also, it's not a touch screen...so not sure how you replace an iPad with it.

I have one...but i don't see how it replaces my iPad Mini 2 or iPad Air 2?

I don't get why people are comparing this to an iPad....

I've owned two 11" MBAs...

Footprint is about the same.

Weight feels MUCH lighter, far more than the 0.35 pound spec would lead me to believe.

Same on thinness - I feel like I could actually lose this in a sheaf of papers that I'm carrying to a meeting, which never happened with either the 11" MBA or my 13" rMBP.

The improved aspect ratio is much appreciated because it's basically all additional screen space vertically, perfect for spreadsheets and word processing docs.

I won't comment on the TN/retina differences.

 

[MacManTexas56]

I've owned two 11" MBAs...

Footprint is about the same.

Weight feels MUCH lighter, far more than the 0.35 pound spec would lead me to believe.

Same on thinness - I feel like I could actually lose this in a sheaf of papers that I'm carrying to a meeting, which never happened with either the 11" MBA or my 13" rMBP.

The improved aspect ratio is much appreciated because it's basically all additional screen space vertically, perfect for spreadsheets and word processing docs.

I won't comment on the TN/retina differences.

i understand the differences...but i don't get how it replaces an iPad? lol

 

[newellj]

i understand the differences...but i don't get how it replaces an iPad? lol

For me, it won't. I plan to keep, and keep using, my iPad Air and rMini.

 

[MacManTexas56]

For me, it won't. I plan to keep, and keep using, my iPad Air and rMini.

yeah but i see so many people that are like i'm selling my iPad now. they are 2 totally different devices lol. i don't get it i guess

 

[noobinator]

So it's the iPad pro:

Minus the touch screen
Plus a keyboard
Plus a full OS

Yep, it's a MacBook.

 

[Anand953]

A lot of people seem to expect the iPad Pro, with a 12.9" screen, too. That would be an interesting crossover.

It would be interesting to see how functionally different it will be compared to iPad Air... With a bigger size, how thin will it be? Will it be equivalent to the size of the current iPad Air 2 or even thinner than that?

Interesting times ahead..