rMBP 1st gen vs "2nd gen"

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  1. applepie555 macrumors regular

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    Is there any worthwhile difference between the first gen and second gen rMBPs, aside from clock speed? Second gen is more expensive. I heard that it might have some newer parts, but I haven't heard of any of those parts actually affecting anything. Image retention, high temps occur on both models. Has anyone actually noticed a difference?

    Also, how much hotter is a 2.6 vs a 2.3/4? I might play some games, some cpu intensive...I want to avoid throttling if possible..
     
  2. dazlicous macrumors 6502a

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    I wouldn't really call the Feb refresh a 2nd gen. It was more of a slight fix and a very minor speed bump. Haswell will be the 2nd gen
     
  3. jcpb macrumors 6502a

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    Mid-2012 MBPR can come with Samsung or LG screens, and Samsung 830 or Toshiba SandForce for SSD.

    Early 2013 MBPR comes with 100MHz speed bumps on the CPU, courtesy of Intel's Ivy Bridge mid-cycle refresh. This is not "second generation", it's a refresh. Same display variation, addition of SanDisk for SSD.

    LG screens are prone to "image retention" (read: if this bothers you, go back to a TN display!) while exhibiting better overall colors.
     
  4. Badrottie Suspended

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    Apple never use 1 or 2 gen term they just called it as Early, Mid, Late…. I believe Apple got rid of "Late" model. Anyway I am happy with my mid 2012 rMBP. :apple:
     
  5. fskywalker macrumors 65816

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    If you are looking at the 2.7 GHZ version, be aware that the 2012 release has a 8mb L3 cache, while the feb 2013 release has the 6mb L3 cache (on 2013 the one with the 8mb cache is the 2.8 BTO model)
     
  6. katmeef macrumors 6502

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    Or just return it till you get a samsung without IR. No need to accept inferiority on a premium priced machine.
     
  7. ColdCase macrumors 68030

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    As has been noted over the past few months here by several owners, the LG SA2 is a far superior screen than the Samsung with fewer IR problems reported than the Samsung screen. About 1% of the SA1s used in "gen1" rMPB had a tendency to IRIf you care about color, clarity, contrast... etc get the LG. The refresh fixed a couple nagging thermal problems but, I think, more importantly began the release of the SA2.

    I think you need to get your facts straight, get up to date, instead of repeating year old rubbish as the current state of the rMBP.

    The refreshed units are better machines, but when pushed, they will run hot just like the older models.
     
  8. jcpb macrumors 6502a

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    You're not only playing with the display panel lottery, you're also playing with the SSD lottery.

    LG display, Samsung SSD
    LG display, Toshiba SSD
    LG display, SanDisk SSD
    Samsung display, Samsung SSD
    Samsung display, Toshiba SSD
    Samsung display, SanDisk SSD

    Only the Samsung+Samsung combo is worth having for the MBPR, that's 1 of 6. What inferiority? This is like gambling your life's savings at Las Vegas for a super jackpot.
     
  9. fskywalker macrumors 65816

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    Well, I think last year there were that many options in SSD's as now, but I won the double Jackpot with my third rMBP (first 2 had LG SJA1 displays and Samsung SSD!!! :D
     
  10. applepie555 thread starter macrumors regular

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    What's so bad about the Toshiba and SanDisk SSDs? I heard problems with the SanDisks were fixed
     
  11. Purant macrumors 6502

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    Hey, I can make up statistics too!

    Around 54398% of LG panels develop IR after a few months! Fact!
     
  12. sonjdsh macrumors newbie

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    I heard that it might have some newer parts, but I haven't heard of any of those parts actually affecting anything. Image retention, high temps occur on both models.[​IMG]
     

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