rMBP - Do you still experience lag in the UI?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by emporiky, Mar 27, 2014.

  1. emporiky macrumors regular

    Mar 27, 2014
    Hey guys, I just got my rMBP (the 2012 one), and even with 10.9.2 I am still sometimes seeing lag on the UI, especially if I have video running in Safari tab, and then swipe to another desktop.
    I was wondering if others still have such issues (although they are really minor, compared to previous OS), or is it just because of my old HD 4000 ?

    Hopefully the 10.9.3 version comes out soon, as there is expected to be updates on the graphic performance :)
  2. TranceMessiah macrumors newbie

    Apr 10, 2013
    The lag is there for everyone with a Retina mac. Even the new ones from 2013 have it.
  3. emporiky thread starter macrumors regular

    Mar 27, 2014
    I kind of feel relieved that I am not the only one, but it is quite frustrating, that even the 2013 rMBP has this issue. I am coming from the MBA 2013 and the difference in UI performance is significant. I guess this is the price to pay for the Retina display :/
  4. thundersteele macrumors 68030

    Oct 19, 2011
    Yeah there is lag, even on the new machines, more if you use the higher resolutions.

    I wonder if it is more a software problem and not hardware.
  5. jffluis macrumors regular


    Aug 28, 2012
    I have this problem since 2012. My Mid 2012 rMBP suffers from this problem since day one. I have 10.9.3 beta build and with Safari 7.0.3 I think my MBP is faster..
  6. caribiner23, Mar 27, 2014
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2014

    caribiner23 macrumors regular


    Feb 15, 2005
    I have a late 2013 rMBP and I see no lag. In fact, this unit screams compared to my mid-2008 MBP with 8 GB and an SSD.

    What symptoms are you seeing? I have no UI issues with multiple tabs in Safari even with Netflix running.
  7. skirmisser macrumors member

    Oct 2, 2012
    I have a 2012 15" rMBP and have experienced this issue from day one: 10.8.0. However, lag has become much less of a problem. Following the release of 10.8.2, 10.8.3, 10.9, and 10.9.2 there have been constant noticeable improvements. 10.9 and 10.9.2 were huge improvements. I can say that browsing with Safari is hugely improved now. Facebook and The Verge used to be super slow and now they quite smooth. Only with Mission Control there is a little lag but this has also been reduced considerably.
  8. dumastudetto macrumors 68030

    Aug 28, 2013
    These new Retina MacBook Pros are the fastest laptops on the market at the moment with blazing fast performance. I have a fantastic experience using the high-end 15" Retina MacBook Pro with its supreme 2GB dedicated graphics chip. I see no lag in OS X. Everything is buttery smooth.
  9. simon48 macrumors 65816


    Sep 1, 2010
    Lag isn't really defined the same by everyone. It's a total judgment call and some people say their computer is lagging when it's really the internet or the computer is running flat out.

    Also comparing all rMBPs isn't fair, the specs vary a lot, especially the GPUs (the difference between Iris and Iris Pro can be substantial).
  10. emporiky thread starter macrumors regular

    Mar 27, 2014
    I guess the lag issue refers manly to the 13" rMBP, as they still don't have dedicated gpu. And yes it's really minor now, and safari is really smooth, as fast as my MBA. It's that choppy desktop swiping, when I have more tasks running that bothers me a bit.
  11. simon48 macrumors 65816


    Sep 1, 2010
    The 5200 is pretty good and it's an iGPU. Give Intel a couple years, it's going to get better.
  12. Indy89 macrumors member

    Apr 26, 2009
    No UI lag here on a 2013 13" rMBP. It screams in comparison to my 2011 15" MBP that it replaced.
  13. yimyim macrumors newbie

    Mar 21, 2014

    yes, of course. I have lag always, using heavy applications or not. Its just the 13" Retinas. I have no experience with the 15"

    I use a non retina resolution for my daily use and retina for image viewing etc.
    Probably in about a year or so the 13" retinas will be powerful enough to drive the screen with scaling.

    My impression is that the users who say they have no lag are perhaps just less sensitive to such things.

    all the best
  14. robE89 macrumors regular

    Oct 9, 2011
    The problem with the 2012/early 2013 rmbp 13' is the HD4000 which simply isn't enough for that resolution, iris is way way way better than hd4000, that's why you won't see any lag on late 2013 13'
  15. caribiner23 macrumors regular


    Feb 15, 2005
    I regularly run multiple applications simultaneously: multiple tabs of Safari, iTunes, Chrome, my corporate VPN Client, Photoshop Elements, and most recently a video capture program called LifeFlix. Zero lag in UI performance even when they are all running at the same time.

    I guess this is a "Your Mileage May Vary" issue.
  16. emporiky thread starter macrumors regular

    Mar 27, 2014
    I think there are a lot of people, complaining from lag with the rMBP 2013 as well. The lag seems to get more and more unnoticeable with every OS X update, which could mean that the weak hardware problem (HD 4000 and iris) could be solved by newer software.
  17. robE89 macrumors regular

    Oct 9, 2011
    I didn't really see anyone with LATE 2013 complaining, maybe i'm wrong, but don't forget that there were 2013 ivy bridge models with hd4000 beside the 2012 one, it's very confusing...i know.
  18. Orr macrumors 6502


    Oct 8, 2013
    I've only noticed little traces here and there, although I don't do anything remotely demanding. It's so insignificant for me that I don't consider it relevant.
  19. Barney63 macrumors 6502a


    Jan 9, 2014
    Bolton, UK.
    I've noticed no lag, rMBP as in signature.

  20. boast macrumors 65816


    Nov 12, 2007
    Phoenix, USA
    I do not notice any UI lag. But since I always have my 1440p monitor connected to it, the dgpu is always running too.
  21. Zeov macrumors 6502a


    Apr 1, 2011
    yes, it is there..

    Either Apple cannot fix it, which is probably the case.

    Or they're slow, which makes no sense

    or they don't want to.. which would make less sense.

    people kept saying "it will be fixed within a week"..
  22. Cardsnk macrumors regular

    Jul 18, 2013
    Since day 1 that i bought it (model in signature), mostly running graphic intensive apps. Photoshop CS6, Final Cut Pro X, Lightroom 5

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