rMBP screen allternative ??

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  1. Tobias Funke macrumors 6502a

    Tobias Funke

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    Just a quick question.

    Do you think the rMBP would have been better off with a high quality 1920x1200 screen,

    Rather than the 1440x900 (2880x1800) retina screen ??

    Just something I have been wondering. :D

    I know you can scale to this resolution before somebody says that. ;)
     
  2. mykelala01 macrumors 6502

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    First of all Apple uses 1920x1200 as a standard resolution for 17 inch Macbook Pro... 1440x900 is a standard for 15 inch display. It makes sense right? It is only practical for Apple to scale its 15 inch rMBP to its standard resolution.
     
  3. PS65 macrumors 6502

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    Another pointless thread!

    Do you think it would be better if the rMBP had 4TB SSD, too? Just wondering?
     
  4. Tobias Funke, Aug 18, 2012
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    I agree there are standards.

    But from what I read on this forum people want more "real estate"

    And a lot of people run there rMBP in 1920x1200 anyway.

    So would it not have been better to have this native rather than retina ?? :D

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  5. Rajpdx macrumors regular

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    No.

    The scaled 1920 x 1200 looks at least as good as native to me, and possibly better. So I can't see the advantage of a 1920 native display in this case.

    Given that the 1920 quality is so good, and there's the option of 1680 which is also impressive and the 1440 looks so great why wouldn't I want that?
     
  6. DVD9 macrumors 6502a

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    The answer depends upon how you feel about the scrolling issue with the Retina screen.
     
  7. Tobias Funke thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Maybe with a native 1920x1200 screen ALL graphical issues people are having would have been non existent? :confused:

    There was none I can think of on the 17 inch MBP.
     
  8. Rajpdx macrumors regular

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    Wouldn't know - I've not been having any graphical issues.

    As far as graphical issues are concerned it strikes me that most of the complaints come from people using the machine at 1920 or 1680 res - which Apple have made a decision to try to render to the highest possible quality rather than just a straightforward translation - like we would see the 17" native display try to do.
     
  9. Adidas Addict macrumors 65816

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    1: What graphical issues? None at all here.
    2: Why would anyone want the retina display downgraded to 1920x1200, are you on hard drugs?
     
  10. PS65 macrumors 6502

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    Exactly my thoughts!

    Bottom line; people who don't have a rMBP are complaining more than those who do. I have not once noticed any graphical issues, and I am pushing it to a thunderbolt display, too.

    This post, along with several other posts, is here to serve no purpose other than to confuse potential purchasers and deter them from purchasing the best Apple MacBook Pro ever made.
     
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  12. neilpryde23 macrumors regular

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    I thought he/she meant 1920x1200 as 3840x2400 so it would be 'retina' with the 'best for retina' having the same effective screen real estate as 1920x1200 instead of 1440x900 since most people who are complaining are saying the lag is more prominent on those scaled settings.
     
  13. rikbrown macrumors regular

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    The Apple crack you guys are smoking is insane. The rMBP is good, sure, but there is noticeably increased visual lag (maximising/expose/etc) compared with a standard MBP. I don't understand the apologists who pretend there isn't. I got over it, I use a Thunderbolt Display as my primary screen - where everything is smooth and fine - but once a window gets dragged over into the rMBP screen/if I'm undocked - it's all sorts of lag in comparison.
     
  14. stevelam macrumors 65816

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    Yep pretty much. The ones who don't see the lag are the ones who literally do nothing on their RMBP besides post on internet forums.
     
  15. Tobias Funke thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Sorry if I wasn't clear.

    I meant just a normal 1920x1200 screen like on the 17 inch MBP but on a 15 inch MBP.

    Rather than a retina screen.

    Which is just a sharp 1440x900 screen. :D
     
  16. NutsNGum macrumors 68030

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    This is an honest post. I've noticed it too. Same deal, on Thunderbolt display, smooth as you like. On its own, choppy seas on the scaled resolutions.
     
  17. PS65 macrumors 6502

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    So whilst you're powering ANOTHER screen, your GPU is struggling on the Retina? :eek:
     
  18. ixodes macrumors 601

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    Since it was on your mind, what are your thoughts about this?
     
  19. jacktorrance macrumors regular

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    What does high quality mean?
     
  20. PS65 macrumors 6502

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    I think it would have been better to have an 8TB SSD as standard, to be honest.

    Silly Apple!
     
  21. ixodes macrumors 601

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    First we should debunk the "Retina" Myth.

    Apple has a brilliant marketing strategy that Steve Jobs created many years ago, as only he could do. Here's how it goes: take an existing technology, give it a clever and compelling new name, then sell that name to the public as something so special that it's irresistible. Appeal to "the dreamers" give the masses something to make them feel special.

    Having already created a cult like following of worshipers to hang on his every word, they'd embrace whatever he gave them as gospel, and spread the word. It was a brilliant and time tested way then, and remains so now.

    Example:
    Apple decides to use WiFi.

    Jobs renames it "AirPort" then hypes it & sells it to the masses during a keynote speech. Suddenly even the otherwise intelligent tech-savy users get all excited having heard from their hero, and it's now something special.

    iThis, iThat,
    Time Machine
    Time Capsule
    AirPort Express Base Station
    AirPort Extreme Base Station... Oh WOW!

    And now... *drum roll* ... RETINA !

    See? You get the picture. Jobs was nothing if not the worlds best salesman. Just look at all the success he created. Look at the massive revenue & ultra high margins generated by convincing people he had the "Magic"... and he did! :)

    Fast forward to "Retina" his last big thing.

    Nothing more that a fancy name for a high resolution IPS display, he whipped everyone into a buying frenzy convincing them that unless it was a Magical Retina display, it was nothing special.

    All you have to do is read the forums here to see all the posts created by the worshipers saying things like once you've gone Retina, there's no going back. It's an amazing yet time tested phenomenon. A brilliant strategy that a super ego, an ultra narssistic guy like Steve could pull off.

    He got people salivating for "one more thing". He left them wanting more. To this day it's reflected here over and over ad nauseum.

    Better than David Copperfield, Steve Jobs was the ultimate showman, magician, and salesman. Very impressive. Everyone loves it, Hollywood can identify since they sell dreams.

    It put Apple on the map forever.
     
  22. PS65 macrumors 6502

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    I agree and disagree with you. I agree on the naming etc, it is awful and most people don't realise that.

    I completely disagree on your point that this is just existing technology. I purchased my retina display because I love the clarity that was offered by a high density DPI screen, not because it is 'retina'.

    I am being honest, seeing a rMBP screen and using it everyday does make your average screen look...well..poor.

    The bottom line is, whilst Apple may use the naming and marketing to hype their products, they tend to be the first that use new technologies well.

    Touch screen is the best example of that....

    Bottom line; there is not point in being anti-Apple or pro-Apple. Have a balance!
     
  23. rikbrown macrumors regular

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    It does the same thing without the external screen plugged in. I was mentioning that to make the point that on the external screen (not retina scaled) it's fine; on the scaled retina screen, it isn't.
     
  24. Stetrain macrumors 68040

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    The 2880x1800 retina display gives you the flexibility of choosing your own scale. Going with a 1920x1200 display would have pretty much fixed people into that resolution. Besides, the retina display still provides more detail/information at the "looks like 1920x1200" than a native 1920x1200 screen.
     
  25. Dustman macrumors 65816

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    Question. If you select 1920x1200, is it actually running at 2880 still? just with the icons and whatnot running at the size they would be if it was actually at that resolution? OR are you actually running it at true 1920x1200 resulting in slightly skewed looking picture as it's not at native?

    If the sooner is true, I wish all laptops performed like this. I am assuming however that it's the latter thats the case.
     

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