rMBP - Yosemite...more like Yose-mite-not-work

Discussion in 'OS X Yosemite (10.10)' started by AnonDP, Oct 6, 2014.

  1. Anitramane macrumors 6502

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    The problem is I shouldn't have to pony up cash because Bluetooth le 4.0 is only a more efficient faster blutetooth. Even though 2.1 could handle it just fine it isnt supported. And even if it uses more battery, what if I'm plugged in all the time? Apple could've just given us the option, it would've worked.

    There is no reason for bluetooth 2.1 devices not being supported except for in the case that the software itself (Yosemite, Ios8) is not supported.

    Let's say I bought a computer in 2011 with bluetooth 2.1.
    Then in 2014 the computer manufacturer makes a feature that uses bluetooth 4.0, locking out the feature for all the other computers artificially.
    That's what Apple has done.
     
  2. blueroom macrumors 603

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    BT4.0 has more hardware / firmware / stack features such as advertising (aka iBeacon) that simply aren't part of the older spec, especially BT2.1. Bluetooth started life as a wireless serial port replacement but now is so much more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth

    Same happened with display mirroring via ATV, it required hardware not available (Intel QuickSync) in older chipsets.

    Either way the four year old iPhone has been solidly updated for more than three years, far more than most other companies.

    TLDR, BT4.0 has hardware differences.
     
  3. Gav Mack macrumors 68020

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    Not apple's fault - the hardware can't take iOS 8, it's not got enough ram and is single core unlike the 4s, it would run worse than an old 3G and feel almost unusable. I'd recommend a 5 on it's a bit sluggish on the 4s.

    If anyone has a 2011 no need to complain as that hardware can be cheaply upgraded not by apple, just look at the big thread about the 2011 and handoff right near the top of this forum. :D
     
  4. yjchua95 macrumors 604

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    Can a moderator just ban the OP straight away? MR doesn't need blokes like this.
     
  5. plusnq macrumors member

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    That is the way it has always been.Floppy drives, Zip dives, Jaz drives, MO drives, CD drives Power PC, Intel chips, etc etc. technology moves on. As long as you only want the features that were present when you bought new, then you have no problem. But wanting the new features in a four year old machine is a fools errand and always has been. Personally I have no issue with how long Apple supports old hardware. I think they do a good job. We have a MacBook air from 2009 running Mavericks. It works just like it did when we first bought it. Sure I won't get features that require new hardware but if I need that then I have to decide what that feature is worth to me. Obviously you have decided that you would like the handoff feature but not enough to sell your old machine and upgrade your hardware. That's a personal internal conflict that only you can resolve. But no hardware manufacturer is going to base their platform development and new features on four year old technology. Look at the Mac mini thread for how outraged some people become because the hardware features are two years old.
     
  6. fletch33 macrumors regular

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    link your phone number to Google Hangouts and get SMS/MMS and phone calls on anything that offers hangouts. when my phone or text come in my Macbook, Tablet and Phone ring or chime and i can send or call out from all of them as well.

    i know its not exactly what your looking.

    good luck
     
  7. AnonDP thread starter macrumors member

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    No idea what the hell is spewing out of your mouth...but I am on a SIM only contract thus purchase my phones cash in hand.
     
  8. Merode macrumors 6502a

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    This thread is either 10/10 trollfest or you're one of those people who buy Apple products just for people around them to see. I mean executives, managers, sales represantatives and so on. It doesn't really matter you prefer other devices, because you care the most about how people perceive you and Apple is considered premium. This explains your braggart signature.

    Despite your hatred, I bet you'll be the first in line for golden :apple: Watch. Just for your peers to see and admire.

    I would sum it up with a picture, but I don't think it would be considered appropriate. Lets just say you're on the wrong website, in the wrong forums.
     
  9. AnonDP thread starter macrumors member

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    I've made my feelings VERY clear about that watch...if you can even call it a watch. I'll stick with my SMP 300m, doesnt need electrics or batteries, it's a real watch not one of these Micky Mouse gimicky bits of tat.

    And I bought the rMBP on the premise it was the best laptop around and I needed a PORTABLE computer, it's my own fault for listening to peoples opinions on the laptop in here, I should have went to the store and picked it up and discovered the faults before I purchased.

    I bought it so I will keep it, I am a firm believer in if you make your own bed you should lay in it; making a rod for your own back if you will.
     
  10. Staggeredsix macrumors newbie

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    Yes, make the jump to Android and use Mightytext. I use it and it works very well. Though I cant answer the phone with my MBP, I can view/send SMS and see whos calling. Besides... if you answer your phone on your laptop in public or at work you'll look like a meathead hipster fanboy... just like the people who walk around with the speakerphone on. My GOD I want to slap telephones right outta people's hands....

    Anyway.. I suggest you pick up a Nexus 5 if you decided to take this upstanding forumer's advice. Obviously he's friendly enough to be looking out for your best intrest, while throwing rocks across the internets. I've had a Nexus 5 for a while and it destroys the iPhone 4, 4S and 5 in every possible way. I wouldn't buy an iPhone 6 until the next iteration is released... the current one is sketchy. As far as the iPhone 4 not being supported for iOS 8? The phone is kind of aged. I'd highly recommend purchasing a new phone and selling your old one if it's in good shape. You can also continue to use it as an MP3 player or as a backup phone.

    As far as my iPhone 4? It met the wrong side of my Ruger. I hated it. Glass fell off, Apple told me to suck an egg. Switched to a powerhouse mobile OS and haven't looked back.
     
  11. petey2133 macrumors member

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    Wow. Horrible reason to be mad. Because you have a phone that came out in 2010 you expect all the amenities of 2014/2015 to be just handed down to you. Part of the company goal is to make money. If your not upgrading your phone but every 5 years then you are not helping he company create new and exciting products and features. It takes money to make money.


    Now back to the real issue at hand. Why would you have an iPhone 4 still ?
     
  12. AnonDP thread starter macrumors member

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    Why would I still have an iPhone 4?....
    • Send SMS
    • Recieve SMS
    • Send Email
    • Recieve Email
    • Make calls
    • Recieve calls
    • Takes Pictures
    • Send pics via Apps
    • Use chat Apps
    • Use for banking
    • Use for brief internet searches
    • Use for games
    Pretty much everything the bendy iPhone 6 does...just without the handoff feature (which is dumb by Apple).

    So sue me for not paying $800 for a new phone every year. Just because I have money doesn't mean I am stupid and a dog to pedigree chum.
     
  13. Gav Mack macrumors 68020

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    I have bought my own phones for the past 4 years. My 5s was a bargain I got recently and so was my 5 last year which is going to the missus to replace her 4s, son with his 4 gets hers. So why not sell the 4 and trade up to a used 5 to get handoff, on a phone that has a big enough CPU and RAM to handle iOS 8 and Bluetooth LE instead of moaning about it? It's no more than a 120 buck upgrade with the difference in prices and the only pain is getting a nano sim for it.
     
  14. Bending Pixels macrumors 65816

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    AnonDP - so you're still whining about being "ripped off" by Apple? Seriously, either take it back and get your money back, or sell it on Ebay.

    It's not your own fault for listening to people's opinions. It's your own fault for not researching to see if your iPhone would support iOS 8 (something Apple made very clear it wouldn't). Blaming Apple because your iPhone 4 won't with the Continuity features of Yosemite isn't Apple's fault. That's just the way it is. The iPhone 4 doesn't have the hardware spec's to support iOS 8.

    To use one of my favorite lines from NCIS - "don't be such a girl" (said by McGee to DiNozzo)
     
  15. petey2133, Oct 7, 2014
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    rMBP - Yosemite...more like Yose-mite-not-work


    No need to bash the newest greatest product if you cannot afford it. That's jealousy.

    Also nice list of things you CAN do. Guess what you CANNOT do... Send and receive text messages and accept phone calls on your shiny new laptop lol...


    Oh and bendy iPhone 6? You are carrying the single most broken phone in the history of phones. The iPhone 4/4s had more screen replacements and insurance claims in the history of phones. You are carrying a solid hunk of glass. You arguments are invalid.

    Buy a Mac mini used and get a new iPhone. Seems more in your budget
     
  16. scaredpoet macrumors 604

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    Except the phone isn't "killed off." Your iPhone 4 hasn't stopped working, it just lacks the hardware for a new feature that wasn't available at the time it was released.

    You bought that phone thinking it was pretty neat for what it did, and you even got some improvements for a few years. But there's a limit to how far older tech can be pushed, and it so happens that this new feature isn't in the cards for your older model device. That's all there is to it.

    If that one feature is the ONLY reason you bought that rMBP, then I'd say you need to re-evaluate why you buy certain things, because that's a lot of money to pay for not having done your research.


    TVs don't gain new features after the manufacturer is done selling it to you. Microwaves don't get OS updates and new features after the manufacturer is done selling it to you. Fridges don't gain OS updates or new features after the manufacturer is done selling it to you.

    So when Frigidaire or Amana or GE comes out with some new appliance that does some whizz-bangy thing that your three year old appliance doesn't do, do you complain that they are making you throw away your old TV, or fridge, or microwave?

    On the other hand: Even on older OS versions, your current iPhone 4 can get new apps and do all of the things Apple said it would do when you bought it, and even a little bit more. And it will still do all those things for quite some time yet. You got your money's worth.

    On the contrary: I don't throw away my computers simply because some shiny new thing has come out that my three+ year old kit can't support. I purchase knowing that technology evolves, and new things in the future might not work on what I bought now. So I consider whether what I'm purchasing serves my needs enough to be worth using until I'm ready to buy something new without feeling bad about it.

    Or you can just keep using it, because, you know, it still works. It just doesn't do this one thing you didn't even know it couldn't do, because you know... that thing didn't even exist until right now.
     
  17. dasams macrumors member

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    $98,000 is a nice start but I wouldn't call it 'money' nor would I advertise ;)
     
  18. thehimay macrumors member

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    I'm having a hard time following your train of thought here…
     
  19. besler3035 macrumors 6502a

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    No offense dude, but if you're expecting a four year old iPhone to have all the same features as a 5S or 6, you're a complete idiot.

    Computers are often replaced every four years — whether you're on a PC or Mac. Stop being a cheap ass and pony up the $200 it takes to get a new phone working on your contract.

    Would you expect a PowerBook G4 to run Yosemite?!? :eek:
     
  20. bennibeef macrumors 6502

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    Me neither. I dont get why it makes it not a good laptop computer and to regret it altogether to buy it when 1 feature does not work? And I mean its a nice feature yes but not really a important one and everyone was happy without it.

    and if you dont like your macbook, buy a windows laptop and you cant get phone calls or sms on it either. At least it wasnt advertised for it and now you can feel happy you can actually use all advertised features (Just less features). With and iphone 4 or newer.
     
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  22. KBS756 macrumors 6502a

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    Crafty I believe would imply that Apple was hiding this fact that continuity would need certain hardware ... It was pretty clear in the iOS 8 keynote

    Anyway ... even without that feature the rMBP is a great machine ...
     
  23. Bending Pixels macrumors 65816

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    uh...what?!!?
     
  24. abn0rma1 macrumors newbie

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    That would be sarcasm.
     
  25. RobFog macrumors regular

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    I don’t get the pun in the title of this thread. "Yosemite" does not rhyme with "might", does it?
     

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