iPad mini rMini: You guys had me all worked up over nothing!

[chabig]

The only thing holding back is the enormous black bars when watching video. That's a tough call

You have two options:
1) You can make the video play full screen
2) You can buy another tablet, where they've used a screen aspect ratio that lacks those extra pixels.

 

[deeddawg]

I don't follow what you're saying.

Two ways of looking at quality:

Conformance and Performance.

You're talking about "performance" quality from the standpoint of more gamut is higher quality.

Zboater is talking about "conformance" quality from the standpoint of the display adhering to the design specifications (which we don't know for sure since Apple hasn't published anything but resolution).

One might also look at "quality" in terms of the display providing more real estate for the same diagonal. So if comparing to a Nexus 7 for example, the rMini provides higher "quality" if looking at usable real-estate, but provides lower "quality" if looking at % of sRGB gamut.

Yes it'd be better (at least on paper) if the rMini provided both more screen real-estate and 100%+ sRGB gamut, but it doesn't so it's up to the buyer to decide which is more important.

 

[bmac4]

I have no complaints about my screen. Mine complaints have more to do with iOS 7. I love my rmini, but I feel iOS 7 is holding it back a little. The mini has all the power just needs iOS 7 to be bit more polished

 

[wermy]

It's the same idea with a display, you can have a higher resolution but if the gamut is lower (meaning it has less colors available to show on screen) then it means a lower quality.

The rMini has a sharper display (higher specs) but is of a lower quality because of the gamut. They could have gone with the same resolution (specs) but with a higher quality screen (better gamut, brightness, contrast, etc...).

That makes no sense, how is resolution a specification and color gamut isn't? They are both quantifiable characteristics of the screen.

Every screen will have some areas that do not compare favorably to other screens. The rMini could have a more vibrant display, yes (that is to say that it's possible, not that it's necessarily needed), but to say that it is objectively poor is just silly.

After using my rMini for a while, I actually prefer it to my 5S or my colleague's iPad Air - both of those seem over-saturated to me now, while my mini seems far more natural and true-to-life. But that's just my opinion, and I suppose that's why nobody is going to "win" this debate - it's all preference!

 

[Tyler23]

That's insane! I only scored a 4.

Psh I scored a 20.

 

[ZBoater]

Bottom line : the screen is lower quality compared to what's currently out in the market, and I have no idea what you're trying to say.

I am saying that a lower gamut is NOT an issue of lower quality, it is just -- lower gamut. If there were defects on the screen or problems with color accuracy (within the gamut the screen does support), I would consider those quality issues.

Bottom line: an unpublished spec that doesn't meet your expectations is NOT a quality issue.

 

[Shoco]

That makes no sense, how is resolution a specification and color gamut isn't?

I didn't say gamut isn't a specs, what I meant is that when it comes to a display it represents quality.

Resolution represents quantity (number of pixels) and gamut (among other things) represents quality (the ability of each of those individual subpixels to filter light properly).

After using my rMini for a while, I actually prefer it to my 5S or my colleague's iPad Air - both of those seem over-saturated to me now, while my mini seems far more natural and true-to-life. But that's just my opinion, and I suppose that's why nobody is going to "win" this debate - it's all preference!

Now you're the one who's not making sense. Undersaturated, which is what the rMini is objectively since it can't show 40% of the colors it should be showing, isn't true to life.

There's no debate here, this is an objectively lower quality display than it should have been for the price. This isn't up to debate, and that's all I'm saying.

It's up to every one then to decide if they're okay with the screen, that I'm not trying to argue about.

 

[tbolt11]

My mini's display looks great. Couldn't be happier. It passed the marco test and doesn't have a bit of yellow glow in the edges.

I think the colors looks great as well

 

[deeddawg]

Now you're the one who's not making sense. Undersaturated, which is what the rMini is objectively since it can't show 40% of the colors it should be showing, isn't true to life.

Respectfully, you should brush up on the different between gamut and saturation. Very different things.

Not saying the Mini/rMini display isn't less capable than others, but do try to understand what's going on (clipping of out-of-gamut colors).

 

[Shoco]

Respectfully, you should brush up on the different between gamut and saturation. Very different things.

Yeah you're right, only out-of-gamut colors will look dull, but at only 60% sRGB coverage that's a lot, making the display look undersaturated overall, that's what I meant.

 

[EZB]

I got my rMini and did the test. I had image retention, but it is not too severe in my mind. I have no yellow screen, led bleeding , etc. I compared color with my ipad 4 and actually prefer the retina mini! The mini seems to display more realistic blues, yellows, and greens, but with a very slightly lighter red.

 

[Señor]

Your obviously lying. My rMINi screen is so washed out that its worse than the original iPad.

Don't forget to wash behind your ears, Billy!

I honestly think people hyperventilating over these small issues are entertaining.