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Rogers to Bring iPhone to Canada
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Thank you.
You and the iPhone announcement have just made my day.
(But one a little more than the other
)
With rollover minutes, I'd be fine with an equivalent value to the $60 iPhone plan (and I currently pay just $20 a month for a Virgin Mobile phone).
Problem is when you roll in system access fees and look at existing mobile pricing in Canada, I don't see it happening. (BTW, I don't think any provider is particularly better than the others -- I was shopping around for a non-pay-as-you-go phone and to me, the plans are all equally expensive among the three major carriers).
I hope the iPhone brings some improved competition to the marketplace, but I wonder if Apple and the clamour for their phone were really enough of a combination to make that happen. I'd like to see it, and I don't think it's impossible... but I also don't think it's probable.
Problem is when you roll in system access fees and look at existing mobile pricing in Canada, I don't see it happening. (BTW, I don't think any provider is particularly better than the others -- I was shopping around for a non-pay-as-you-go phone and to me, the plans are all equally expensive among the three major carriers).
I hope the iPhone brings some improved competition to the marketplace, but I wonder if Apple and the clamour for their phone were really enough of a combination to make that happen. I'd like to see it, and I don't think it's impossible... but I also don't think it's probable.
Come on, Steve! Look to bigger markets!!!
Well, it is time to Steve look to Brazil!!!
If he has Canada in his map, why would not he slip his eyes a little to the south and start selling the iPhone here, too?
Come on! We have almost 100 millions of people with cel phones here! Its a giant market to explore!!!! Way bigger than Canadian market!!!
Well, it is time to Steve look to Brazil!!!
If he has Canada in his map, why would not he slip his eyes a little to the south and start selling the iPhone here, too?
Come on! We have almost 100 millions of people with cel phones here! Its a giant market to explore!!!! Way bigger than Canadian market!!!
S'true. ~40 Million really is of little concern, market-share speaking.
Unless, of course, you consider that Canada is the major trade partner with the US, that cross-border population pollution is higher here than anywhere else in the world (in terns of per cap), the fact that our dollar is almost equal to the US and yet, thanks to half-assed trade laws (including but not limited to things like NAFTA), we still get to pay an extra 15-20% for the same device...
I could rant on...but at the end of the day, when you price a device so high so as to only make it available to maybe 15% of the market, which Rogers will almost certainly do...yes, I agree, Canada's market is likely of little concern to Apple. Add to that the inherent difficulty in bringing new mobile tech here, thanks to our shoddy infrastructure, and you wind up with an endeavour that's more trouble than it's worth.
Stupid effin' Rogers
BRILLIANT!!!! I WAS HOPING THIS WOULD HAPPEN
i live in the UK and I always come to Canada every summer just for a month durning vacation/holiday, and i get all gadgets there coz its almost half the price cheaper in the UK... HAHA I get a cheaper iPhone...
i live in the UK and I always come to Canada every summer just for a month durning vacation/holiday, and i get all gadgets there coz its almost half the price cheaper in the UK... HAHA I get a cheaper iPhone...
So Canada finally got the iPhone eh?
Yeah, eh? How aboot that. Now if only we could get a whole mile of paved road we'd be in business.
haha yeah, me too. I currently don't even have a data play with my iPhone- much too expensive. I often read emails on the go etc. and sometimes if theres pictures and stuff... they are in the megabytes!... and rogers wants to charge per kilobyte?!?!?
Living in the city, theres always someones wifi you can borrow. Friends houses, school campuses etc. Its a minor hassle :/
I've been without a cell phone contract for the past two years awaiting this news. I am very excited about this and I simply cannot wait. Rogers better do something with their data plans if they want the launch to be a success. Not much point having an iPhone capable of doing great things but limited by the crappy network or high rate plans.
So can the pricing guesses and rumors start now.
if it does drop to $200 in the US of A, i would assume $250 here in Canada.
if it does drop to $200 in the US of A, i would assume $250 here in Canada.
Two words! "Whinners thread!"
U got an Iphone.... suck it up.... Coz the whinning aint gonna stop even if Jobs and Rogers/Fido/O2/Vodafone presented the IPhone on a golden platter in Canada/US/NZ.... or anywhere.... there will still be whinners...
U got an Iphone.... suck it up.... Coz the whinning aint gonna stop even if Jobs and Rogers/Fido/O2/Vodafone presented the IPhone on a golden platter in Canada/US/NZ.... or anywhere.... there will still be whinners...
So Canada finally got the iPhone eh?
Don't make me come down there and kick your a$$.
kixsand
S'true. ~40 Million really is of little concern, market-share speaking.
Unless, of course, you consider that Canada is the major trade partner with the US, that cross-border population pollution is higher here than anywhere else in the world (in terns of per cap), the fact that our dollar is almost equal to the US and yet, thanks to half-assed trade laws (including but not limited to things like NAFTA), we still get to pay an extra 15-20% for the same device...
I could rant on...but at the end of the day, when you price a device so high so as to only make it available to maybe 15% of the market, which Rogers will almost certainly do...yes, I agree, Canada's market is likely of little concern to Apple. Add to that the inherent difficulty in bringing new mobile tech here, thanks to our shoddy infrastructure, and you wind up with an endeavour that's more trouble than it's worth.
Stupid effin' Rogers
Yeah, NAFTA and our trade agreements are bull****, especially when we let the rules be ignored, *cough* softwood lumber *cough*
Really though, apple doesn't have to worry about infrastructure, that's not they're problem.
No, you are whinning. If you don't like it, steer clear, and if you still hate that bit of whinning you may here, go crawl under a rock.
There is absolutely ZERO chance that Apple would allow such restrictions on the iPhone. This is one of the dumbest things I've read on the Macrumours forums in a long time. Wow.
I'm glad to hear the iphone is in Canada now but come on..... a phone is just a consumer electronic. They shouldn't be locked to the network. If people had to buy a TV from Rogers then we would see a lot more PO..ed PPL....
I'm glad to hear the iphone is in Canada now but come on..... a phone is just a consumer electronic. They shouldn't be locked to the network. If people had to buy a TV from Rogers then we would see a lot more PO..ed PPL....
To be pragmatic for a moment, within the Canadian marketplace, there's not much to distinguish between a locked GSM phone and an unlocked GSM phone - even if you do happen to have an unlocked GSM phone in Canada, there is still only one company with the necessary infrastructure be able to provide you with nation-wide service.
It's not just that Bell and Telus are being arbitrarily denied permission to sell/service iPhones - there's also the simple fact that the iPhone uses an underlying technology which none of the competitors are currently equipped to work with. Even if Apple desperately wanted to allow it, Bell and Telus are technologically incapable of taking pieces of the iPhone pie.
Unlocking any GSM phone from the network is only really beneficial for Canadian consumers if they happen to travel outside the country frequently and want to avoid roaming charges by using a local prepaid SIM card.
Maybe someday there'll be real competition among GSM network service providers in Canada - but right now it's a choice of Rogers/Fido or no service at all.
It's just extrapolating from Rogers' existing "unlimited" data plan - which does place restrictions on the types of data traffic which are allowed to flow, the titles of applications on the handheld device which are allowed to initiate the data transfer, and the nature of the content being delivered to the application. If any attempt is made to access data that falls outside these restrictions, the regular per-kilobyte fares apply.generationxwing said:
Until we see any evidence to the contrary (eg a formal description of the pricing plan) it's just as reasonable to assume Rogers will continue with its current practices as it is to predict anything else.
goosnarrggh, totally great post. Consumers in Canada need to make it more obvious what they want here and not just take what they're given from the likes of Robbers and Bell .
I've read a few commentaries in the papers here in Canada on how the current pricing will make the iPhone expensive etc.
I'm glad to hear the iphone is in Canada now but come on..... a phone is just a consumer electronic. They shouldn't be locked to the network. If people had to buy a TV from Rogers then we would see a lot more PO..ed PPL....
Ok, so get an unlocked iPhone in canada. Then where are you going to go? Back to Rogers?
Or never leave, take the sim out of the Nokia, install in iPhone. wave magic wand...
Do you know Jim? I think he's from Canada.
I've actually been asked something similar 3 or 4 times...
When I was younger on vacation in Myrtle Beach, my friend and I spent 30-40 minutes trying to convince two girls on the beach that we *didn't* live among igloos, Mounties, and dogsleds...we eventually gave up. Shook our heads for ages over that one.
(proudly from Ottawa)