Rovio Denies Any Role in NSA Spying on Angry Birds Users

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Documents leaked by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden and made public yesterday claim U.S. and UK intelligence agencies are retrieving personal data sent by mobile apps during mass surveillance sweeps.

    Rovio's Angry Birds was one of the apps targeted by intelligence agencies for key profile data such as age, location and gender, and the company has now defended itself against these allegations, denying any voluntary cooperation with government agencies.
    Apple last year faced similar allegations it and other technology companies provided the NSA with backdoor access to its servers. Apple CEO Tim Cook denied these reports, saying last week the NSA "would have to cart us out in a box" in order to gain access to Apple's servers. Cook also has been vocal about increased transparency, asking the government for permission to talk about information requests from federal and law enforcement agencies.

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    Article Link: Rovio Denies Any Role in NSA Spying on Angry Birds Users
  2. the8thark macrumors 68040


    Apr 18, 2011
    It is standard practice to deny any illegal activities one has done.

    The question, is this denial of guilt or proof of innocence? Only time and the evidence will tell.
  3. Solomani macrumors 68040


    Sep 25, 2012
    Alberto, Canado
    The FBI has issued a warrant for the arrest of…. Bomb Bird. News at 11.
  4. AngerDanger macrumors 68040


    Dec 9, 2008
    ← Downward Crow's Head
    If the NSA wants to watch me play Angry Birds, by all means, they can go ahead. It's every other thing the NSA watches that's unnerving.
  5. H2SO4 macrumors 68040

    Nov 4, 2008
    and the company has now defended itself against these allegations, denying any voluntary cooperation with government agencies

    Says it all.........
  6. bushido Suspended


    Mar 26, 2008
  7. LostSoul80 macrumors 68020


    Jan 25, 2009
    I'd have expected them to say the opposite.

    Strange move on their part. :rolleyes:
  8. UnfetteredMind macrumors 6502


    Jun 6, 2012
    I'm surprised they're not taking this opportunity to tell everyone that by purchasing the paid version, they won't be at risk of government snooping (by way of monitoring the connections to the ad networks).
  9. ArtOfWarfare macrumors G3


    Nov 26, 2007
    I believe them. I have no problem believing companies don't cooperate with these spy agencies. If they were cooperating with them, somebody would have spoken up about this a lot sooner.

    That Apple and others have handed over information to officials when requested to do so is no surprise - it's always been in their terms and conditions that they will if they're required to. That's fine and legal - the government came in with a warrant. What's not legal is mass collecting info at random because it has the slimmest chance of being useful to national security.
  10. iJohnHenry macrumors P6


    Mar 22, 2008
    On tenterhooks
    I guess they are not that angry after all. ;)

    Perhaps they will rename their product Complacent Birds?
  11. ghettochris macrumors 6502a

    Feb 19, 2008
    so for the sake of everyone's privacy, all games need to remove all ads asap!
  12. LV426 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 22, 2013
    I agree. We've got enough ads in the world as it is, and games are cheap enough to be bought with pocket money.

    NB, what happens when you do make an app purchase and it turns out to be a duffer? I don't suppose you have a 2-week return window like Apple hardware purchase, but some kind of short period would surely be of benefit to consumers.
  13. avanpelt macrumors 68030

    Jun 2, 2010
    If it turns out that the NSA did, in fact, collect data from Rovio, I feel sorry for the person who had to sit and analyze that data all day long. What a boring job -- and what a colossal waste of taxpayer money.
  14. Macrolido macrumors regular


    May 14, 2012
    Monterrey, Mexico
    Just like the person who collect data from Facebook and finds only pics of babies and food.
  15. 2457282 Suspended

    Dec 6, 2012
    Unfortunately, the more accurate statement is that any activity that is done on the internet or through an internet connected device is subject to being "spied." We are hearing about NSA because of the leaks, but I would not be surprised that other governments are doing the same. Unless everything is encrypted (and even then its not a guarantee), there is no way to prevent your connections and habits from being tracked. And the truth is that it's not that hard. What is is hard is storing and analyzing the amount of data that flies around every day. In general, it is true that because of the volume of data, the analysis is done by software looking for patterns. So again, in general, unless you have a pattern that triggers a flag, no one will ever bother you. Still, the fact that my information is stored without my permission by countless number of governments is of concern. How many of are storing and analyzing this post right now?

    Security is good, but this level of distrust of everyone is not the answer, IMHO. Actually, quite the opposite, until we can rebuild trust and tolerance between peoples and nation, security will continue to degrade regardless of all these "security" systems.
  16. xStep macrumors 68000

    Jan 28, 2003
    Less lost in L.A.
    When I read the Rovio statement I tranate to mean the the information possibly mined by the NSA is being shared with advertising networks. Also they do not mention is this information is being sent to servers, including their own, in the clear. Looks to me like their just trying to push the blame into someone else.
  17. SBlue1 macrumors 65816


    Oct 17, 2008
    They don't need your highscore. They are looking after your digital footprint. Where have you been. Your age. Your gender. What apps are you using. What web pages have you visited. Are there other people with similar profiles.

    It's all just a peace in the puzzle.
  18. iJohnHenry macrumors P6


    Mar 22, 2008
    On tenterhooks
    Wake-up Methuselahs, it's the 21st Century. ;)

    Data will be collected, then interrogated via computer programs.

  19. iVoid macrumors 65816

    Jan 9, 2007
    Well, he is technically a suicide bomber, so no wonder the FBI and NSA are interested in monitoring him. :)
  20. iJohnHenry macrumors P6


    Mar 22, 2008
    On tenterhooks
    HEY, spoiler alert!!! :mad:
  21. ActionableMango macrumors G3


    Sep 21, 2010
    Why does Angry Birds need to know these things?

    How is Angry Birds getting this information?

    How does NSA stop terrorist attacks by knowing the ASL of Angry Birds players?
  22. powerstrokin macrumors 6502a


    May 18, 2013
    You've been misinformed about the role of the NSA, sir.

    Their job isn't to stop terrorists.

    It's to BE terrorists and spy on everyone. They are but one small piece of the pie. All leading up to a completely surveilled populace the likes of which can be seen in many movies. It's all about control.

    While the information coming out about the NSA and their activities is definitely something that needs to be taken seriously, the truly horrible stuff you haven't even heard about.

    You're told what they want you to know. You long for safety, and they are manipulating you into believing they will protect you even from themselves. How? By controlling even more of your information of course. That way they can say "YOU wanted it, we did this for YOU."
  23. JAT macrumors 603

    Dec 31, 2001
    Mpls, MN
    This way they know who is most likely to use slingshots against buildings in a terrorist attack. Duh.
  24. mrsir2009 macrumors 604


    Sep 17, 2009
    Melbourne, Australia
    The NSA doesn't stop terrorist attacks full stop. The reason why there's so few terrorist attacks is because the threat of terrorists has been hugely blown-up by the government to get you to give up your rights. In the USA you're 7 times more likely to be shot by a cop than killed by a terrorist, so you'd do better to try avoid being a victim to that than a terrorist attack.


    The monstrous Utah data center that the NSA has recently built should help with that.

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