And the new Mac pro is all Mac mini's stacked up to each other, a modular system with even extra CPU's, graphics cards and HD's in a separate module. Or is this not posible because of the connection speed between the modules?
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Rumor Suggests Replacement for Mac Pro Due in April or May
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I'm not bothered. I could not afford to change my 2009 model anyway :-/ I only just finished paying for it last month.
I beliebe they're going to make it a smaller tower with four 2,5" drive bays and no 3,5" or 5,25" bays. And perhaps Thunderbolt ports without a video signal (is that within Thunderbolt specifications?), because that would be almost impossible to do in conjunction with a removable video card. Maybe even no Thunderbolt at all. Also, I think they won't call it Pro anymore.
Indeed. It seems like most MR cares to publish these days is yet more US-centric, irrelevant carrier-related crap...nothing that matters to 70% of Apple's global market, of course.
In any case, mark my words: following SJ's passing, this finally constitutes the coming of the fabled xMac mini-tower, no less.
All I want is a freaking desktop computer that has a discrete graphics card that can handle multiple monitors, without one of them being the actual computer.
Is that too much to ask Apple!?
Is that too much to ask Apple!?
The countdown begins....
I would be happy if Apple simply spun-off the MacPro production officially to an autonomous company/entity, like IBM and Lenovo. A group that collaborated and worked exclusively with Apple, but produced output at their own rate, while not being constrained by executives and project managers that were serving the misguided idea that the future of Apple is un-upgradable (iMac anyone?). They have really let there own inaction kill the Pro line.
Frankly, I am personally at the point where I am considering constructing my own non-Apple computer (I'm too lazy/busy to deal with the Hackintosh stuff), and run my pro applications there. I would keep my Mac for personal use, maybe scale back to a cheap Mac mini, while the 'other' computer would not often/ever be connected to the web.
For me Apple has a few months to 'wow' me enough to not go that route. I am sitting on a online shopping cart that will take me that direction with one click, but I am keeping my finger off that trigger, for now....
And yes, a $1500 price range model for what is essentially a iMac with PCI express slots and thunderbolt would be a smart move in my opinion.
I would be happy if Apple simply spun-off the MacPro production officially to an autonomous company/entity, like IBM and Lenovo. A group that collaborated and worked exclusively with Apple, but produced output at their own rate, while not being constrained by executives and project managers that were serving the misguided idea that the future of Apple is un-upgradable (iMac anyone?). They have really let there own inaction kill the Pro line.
Frankly, I am personally at the point where I am considering constructing my own non-Apple computer (I'm too lazy/busy to deal with the Hackintosh stuff), and run my pro applications there. I would keep my Mac for personal use, maybe scale back to a cheap Mac mini, while the 'other' computer would not often/ever be connected to the web.
For me Apple has a few months to 'wow' me enough to not go that route. I am sitting on a online shopping cart that will take me that direction with one click, but I am keeping my finger off that trigger, for now....
And yes, a $1500 price range model for what is essentially a iMac with PCI express slots and thunderbolt would be a smart move in my opinion.
Not sure where that number comes from, the last major update was 2009 and the current version is still that same motherboard. Closer to four years, if not more.
From the last "official" update from 2010. (Apple said that the 2012 update wasn't anything near a new Mac Pro)
At this point...... Unless of course, you would want to wait another year for that "upgraded" port..
There was also one in 2011, and I'd argue that the one in 2010 was no more "major" than that one or even the one in 2012. 2009 was a big one, the first CPUs with hyperthreading and a different motherboard design, all they've done since then is swap in different CPUs and incremental updates to things like hard drives and ram.
intel chips?
Hi all,
I'm wondering if this holds parallel to any new forthcoming Intel chips? Hopefully that's what they've been waiting on and if there are new chips are available soon....
Then maybe we can hope.
I did buy Applecare for 2010 in December and when the guy asked me if there was anything else I could, I jokingly said something like, "Well you could send me a discount for a new Mac Pro coming out soon."
He replied, "Well there is a part number in our system for the new ones."
I asked if he was BS'ing me and he said he wasn't and that's what the system said. I asked if he meant the lightly updated ones from 2012 and he said no.
So..... unless he was BS'ing me?
Hi all,
I'm wondering if this holds parallel to any new forthcoming Intel chips? Hopefully that's what they've been waiting on and if there are new chips are available soon....
Then maybe we can hope.
I did buy Applecare for 2010 in December and when the guy asked me if there was anything else I could, I jokingly said something like, "Well you could send me a discount for a new Mac Pro coming out soon."
He replied, "Well there is a part number in our system for the new ones."
I asked if he was BS'ing me and he said he wasn't and that's what the system said. I asked if he meant the lightly updated ones from 2012 and he said no.
So..... unless he was BS'ing me?
Hmm, nice idea, but they'd have to either have a couple custom build options, or supply a RAID card that has both internal and external ports.
My Mac has an Areca 1880ix-12, which is set up for 12 internal and 4 external ports, but I've used all 16 ports externally so far. Well, I'm using only 9 of 16 today, but I'd need 16 ports total available for growth.
So, if they build in 16 ports that can be used inside or out, and can deliver the same speed and memory cache (4GB cache for mine) as 3rd party cards, I'd be happy with it. Truth is, I'm *very* skeptical that it would cost more and be less. They mark up RAM, CPUs and drives like no tomorrow, so why wouldn't they mark up RAID? (They would, unfortunately.)
Intel has been tending to release mobile CPU's before desktop/server CPU's in recent years, and Haswell (New Intel architecture) is road-mapped to start rolling out in June at the earliest. Thus, that leads me to believe that unless Apple and Intel have some sort of early deal worked out, I'm not sure how this redesign could include Haswell, if we are to see the new Mac Pro in May/June.
It would have to wait until later in the summer, IMO.
I don't know of anyone who would need something as powerful as the Mac Pro other than people who really require a Workstation-class machine. Not even I could ever need something like that, as cool as it would be.
I'd say a fully loaded 27" iMac would be plenty. Maybe that's why Apple hasn't updated it as much as their other products. Not only that, but it'd be quite expensive to be replacing in upgrading once per year, unless you only need more RAM, graphics or hard disk space.
I'd say a fully loaded 27" iMac would be plenty. Maybe that's why Apple hasn't updated it as much as their other products. Not only that, but it'd be quite expensive to be replacing in upgrading once per year, unless you only need more RAM, graphics or hard disk space.
If they release a Pro model Desktop system with memory and or drives that are not user serviceable, that would be the most ignorant move Apple could make in this arena. So.... Its likely. I agree with you.
Every other Mac has lost the optical drives. If they make any design tweaks, those are probably gone. I guess it's a matter of whether they do make adjustments to the case. I don't care about aesthetics, but they could improve airflow for things like gpus and internal hard drives.
This makes little sense. You can set up solutions for external HDDs today. USB3, eSATA, SAS, and thunderbolt provide such functionality depending on the machine. I don't see a company like Apple getting into that business. In the case of the thunderbolt RAID, it's not Apple branded. There isn't a real advantage to doing this, and yeah you lack a fast interconnect for something like this. Thunderbolt is not infiniband. It remains to be seen whether thunderbolt is even implemented on these, as the ability to route it through embedded graphics isn't present unless they change something.
This a option. Don't need a Mac Pro is overpriced and no real roadmap they don't care about real pro users. You can have a great Workstation based on PC:
Custom made, HP Z, Leonovo and Boxx. Well configured is great. REALLY GREAT.
I switch form a Mac Pro to a custom workstation and use a Macbook Pro and i don't regret a single day!
The best from both world's!
P.S.: Only for open minds!
The brands you mention can cost just as much or more depending on configuration. Where Apple was extremely overpriced or under-specced was really the base model. For $2500 they could have made it somewhat more competitive. At the 12 core level they were a lot closer in price. HP places a huge markup on cto parts.
They might do 2.5" bays if they want to increase the number. I kind of doubt it, but it's possible. It wouldn't make a lot of sense if you mean to RAID 5 SSDs, but 2.5" form factors are becoming fairly viable. Bulk storage is still typically better in 3.5" drives due to cost per GB.
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Sweet! A clock bump and a video card from 2011!
About time. I cannot wait!
Or maybe this time around they might actually do something beneficial for the Pro community instead of constantly just taking things away.
I still find it ironic that the network server icon in ML is a Pro product that Apple stopped making years ago. Doesn't look the same when it's just a Mac Mini does it Apple?
About time. I cannot wait!
Or maybe this time around they might actually do something beneficial for the Pro community instead of constantly just taking things away.
I still find it ironic that the network server icon in ML is a Pro product that Apple stopped making years ago. Doesn't look the same when it's just a Mac Mini does it Apple?
That would be great. There was also a G4 at $1299 which, although not as powerful as the pricier machines, was a great starting point for people that wanted expandability.
Please tell me there is an updated Thunderbolt display to go along side this...
and bump it up $200
Why would you know someone?
The point of a Mac Pro is for professional users. If you don't work in the industry it's geared towards (or was) then you won't know anyone who needs it.
It's like saying you don't know anyone who would need a steadicam. If you do work in that industry then you probably know quite a few people.