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eyoungren

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i doubt that will actually happen. just trying to scare people.
I'm just reporting.

Never been a Verizon customer so I cannot say either way.

I can say that both Sprint and T-Mobile have a history of canceling high usage accounts though. So, if Verizon won't - both Sprint and T-Mobile will and have.
 

itsray

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its cool.

i just don't know how people can use that much data. unless they don't have internet at home. and are constantly on the move (maybe for work) or don't have free wifi access. the most I've ever used i think was maybe 5 gigs one month.

that and using so much data every day would kill your battery life.
 

eyoungren

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Additional: https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/comments/4tstuk/ooc_unlimited_data_high_usage_lines_forced_to/
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its cool.

i just don't know how people can use that much data. unless they don't have internet at home. and are constantly on the move (maybe for work) or don't have free wifi access. the most I've ever used i think was maybe 5 gigs one month.

that and using so much data every day would kill your battery life.
I think it's probably directed more at those who are tethering or using their phone as an ISP.
 

timeconsumer

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its cool.

i just don't know how people can use that much data. unless they don't have internet at home. and are constantly on the move (maybe for work) or don't have free wifi access. the most I've ever used i think was maybe 5 gigs one month.

that and using so much data every day would kill your battery life.
I think that's the issue though. People were paying for unlimited data then using it as their home internet. Which is fair in my opinion as they are paying for unlimited...
[doublepost=1469047240][/doublepost]Also let's say you watch 1 hour of Netflix in HD per day, that will easily take you over 50GB per month.

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/87

People who commute on public transportation it wouldn't surprise me if they use 100GB or more per month.
 

itsray

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Actually it's awesome. It's ridiculous to you because you either can't do it or are jealous. I stream everything without a cable bill. Explain to me why that's ridiculous to you?

sorry. my cable internet is magnitudes faster than your your fastest cellular data speed. why would i be jealous? can't do what? cool you stream "everything" good for you. still dumb to have to rely on your phone for internet use.
 
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Applejuiced

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At the iPhone hacks section.
Some can rack up 50GB without tethering or using it as their main home internet hotspot.
Not sure what kind of backlash that could bring to Verizon though.
Either customer lawsuits or government sanctions and penalties.
When they bought the lte bands from the government they agreed not to throttle, restrict or disable customers.
And now they want to just kick off customers after a set amount of data used?
I'm not surprised though, classic shady Verizon move:)
 

aneftp

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Couple of points:

1. Those out of contract (many Verizon users with unlimited data have used various loopholes to get both a subsidized phone PLUS extend their contract (my contract expires October 2017 now)

So those still under contract won't be affected

2. "Extraordinary amount of data". We don't know what that amount is. I reckon like the article posts it's between 50-300gb.

I have home internet pretty fast 100mpbs. But I use the unlimited data sim in cellular iPad for my kids. For restaurants, hotels (we travel often). It's convienent since hotspot is included when sim is put in iPad. So both kids can use iPad in car for road trips.

We use between 10gb-40gb each month


Saying that. I do have plan B in place once out of contract: (I have Att wireless service with unlimited data as well)

I have direct tv and will likely switch to giga power internet soon. So I will just get 4 lines unlimited (use one of those lines for iPad unlimited data) for $180/month.
 

JayIsAwesome

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Actually it's awesome. It's ridiculous to you because you either can't do it or are jealous. I stream everything without a cable bill. Explain to me why that's ridiculous to you?

I don't see how it's ridiculous either. I mean, you're paying for unlimited....IMO you should be able to use UNLIMITED data. Tbh, how is it any different than everybody dumping their landline housephone and only using their cell phone b/c you have unlimited minutes? Many do that. But that seems to be ok. But using as much data as you want is frowned upon? Ok....
 

Siamese_Dream

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sorry. my cable internet is magnitudes faster than your your fastest cellular data speed. why would i be jealous? can't do what? cool you stream "everything" good for you. still dumb to have to rely on your phone for internet use.
Lol you sound really butthurt over this. I pull 110 Mbps down over LTE even in the lowest level of my house. If you need any more than that from the wifi you're shelling out $$ for monthly then you're a certain kind of special.
 
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There are always those who abuse and I can hardly blame them for doing something about it.

We all know by now that "Unlimited" does not mean unlimited of you read the fine print. People should pay for excessive bandwidth use.
 
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itsray

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Lol you sound really butthurt over this. I pull 110 Mbps down over LTE even in the lowest level of my house. If you need any more than that from the wifi you're shelling out $$ for monthly then you're a certain kind of special.

thats pretty slow.
 

aneftp

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You really only need 15-20mpbs to stream 4K. 50mpbs is overkill.

I have 100mpbs. About to upgraDe to att giga power 1gbs when my $35/internet promo/100mpbs ends

My neighbor has 1gbs att giga power Get around 400-600mpbs consistently. Really don't notice much of a difference streaming at any of those speeds.
 
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an-other

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i apologise in advance as I'm repeating myself: Business offer options like "unlimited data" to seduce you to enroll in their service. They are either expecting you to to overpay for your consumption or willing to take a "new business" acquisition loss to get you to sign-up.

The tables turn quickly when you're no longer overpaying or the new business stipend can no longer be supported. Things like throttling or calls for metering start happening. It became very clear iPhone users consumed massive amounts of data beyond initial estimates. My home ISP is trying to convince regulators metering is necessary.

I have no issues with anyone using as much data as they can, as long as they're following their service agreement. Good on ya for a prudent business decision.
 

lordofthereef

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The reason unlimited plans don't exist anymore is because of the folks that used dozens of gigs a month opening the eyes of telcos to limit and throttle; they simply didn't have the proper plan in place from then get go.

If you look at streaming accounts, namely music, it's against license terms to stream them at your place of business unless you are buying a more expensive business plan. They thought of that from day one.

I don't understand why these threads always devolve into pissing matches of how jealous a person is, how big a data hog a person is, etc etc. At some point Verizon will show customers that are not profitable for them then door, or allow them to get on a plan that is profitable for them. That makes good business sense. Frankly, with all the moves they've made, in surprised it lasted this long. They likely just don't want a mass exodus and have slowly given people reason to move over to other plans (similar to what everyone else is doing).
 
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I7guy

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The reason unlimited plans don't exist anymore is because of the folks that used dozens of gigs a month opening the eyes of telcos to limit and throttle; they simply didn't have the proper plan in place from then get go.

If you look at streaming accounts, namely music, it's against license terms to stream them at your place of business unless you are buying a more expensive business plan. They thought of that from day one.

I don't understand why these threads always devolve into pissing matches of how jealous a person is, how big a data hog a person is, etc etc. At some point Verizon will show customers that are not profitable for them then door, or allow them to get on a plan that is profitable for them. That makes good business sense. Frankly, with all the moves they've made, in surprised it lasted this long. They likely just don't want a mass exodus and have slowly given people reason to move over to other plans (similar to what everyone else is doing).
I stream through Lte at work, usually the financial news stations.

I just checked my data and 4 lines used about 10 gig, sometimes it goes to 20 gig.
 

eyoungren

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The reason unlimited plans don't exist anymore is because of the folks that used dozens of gigs a month opening the eyes of telcos to limit and throttle; they simply didn't have the proper plan in place from then get go.
This is a problem I never understand. Perhaps it's because when it comes to humanity in general I am a pessimist, IDK.

Business always seems to assume the best of people for some reason. That the customer will never take advantage, never seek a workaround, never try to leverage an offer for more than it's worth. And it always ends up biting them in the ass.

Unlimited Data should have been presented as Unlimited Data on your device only from the beginning. Advertising should have made that clear. Because it was unclear a lot of people took that to mean no limits whatsoever, myself included. It was false advertising and because they didn't make it clear from the beginning the customer had a right to complain about it. And that is the fault of the carriers because they were trying to have their cake and eat it too. Had they made this clear they would have had less business - but they would not have had as many problems.

Perhaps their own greed blinded them to the greed of others.
 
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