Rumoured Graphics Card in New MPB

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    I thought it was the 670m?

    EDIT: Sorry, I thought I read the lower-end 6xx cards were rebranded Fermi cards.

    Of course, only Apple knows for sure what GPU they are using.

    -P
     
  3. that1guyy macrumors 6502

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    What the ball sack? If that's true then I'm not buying. I was hoping for an AMD 7770 at least.
     
  4. mikeo007 macrumors 65816

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    The sky is falling again! Seriously though--

    I don't know what comparisons you're looking at...
    The 650m is benchmarking at 50% faster than the 6770m in some tests.
    It's not a night and day difference, but it is an improvement.


    http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-650M.71887.0.html
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6770M.43955.0.html
     
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    It probably won't get it, Apple notoriously brings the fail to cutting edge video hardware. Your grandpa's video? They rock at that :(
     
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    1) The NVIDIA GT 650M is a far more powerful card than the 6770M; it is slightly faster than the NVIDIA GTX 560M, a high-end gaming GPU from 2011, and is slightly slower than the AMD 7850M. It would probably also bring 2GB+ of vRAM.

    2) It is a 28nm, Kepler based GPU.

    3) A NVIDIA GTX 660M would be ideal. Some of the 6XX series cards aren't Kepler 28, and are rather 45nm. It's actually the fastest mobile Kepler GPU at this time.
     
  8. Meever macrumors 6502a

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    Nvidia 660m or AMD 7770m Please.

    Anything below those would be unacceptable for the price range!
     
  9. w00t951 macrumors 68000

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    Read the above post. The 650M is faster than the AMD HD 7770M.
     
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    Is it seriously reasonable to presume a 650M would be in a stock 15"?
     
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    You mean a base 15"? If Apple does the same thing they've done for most MBP generations, the base 15" will be a lower end GPU.
     
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    Yes, the base 15", if so, what would be expected to be in the base 15"?
     
  13. mikeo007 macrumors 65816

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    If i had to guess, I'd say something similar to the 6750m they're using now.
    Tends to be how they do it. This year's low end is roughly equal to or slightly less than last year's high end.
     
  14. Rilely macrumors member

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    This is possibly the worst news I've heard so far. I haven't minded just about anything else but I was expecting with at least the AMD 7790 or 7770... I don't think I could abide by the 650M, which is only slightly faster than the current generation of discrete graphics cards... From what I'm hearing this is not the greatest news in the world.

    Maybe I'll switch to iMac if they offer something better? I don't know how much I need that level of "thinness" for the price tag unless they can accommodate a new generation graphics card.
     
  15. Xcallibur macrumors 6502a

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    Arhh right, that sounds quite boring then.

    Have you actually looked at the statistics of the 650M compared to the currently used HD 6770M? I've looked and found an increase in performance of around 30% to 50% on average.
     
  16. psykick5 macrumors 6502

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    Well it said 650M on the report, but maybe they were testing the low-end 15? Maybe the 660M or a 650M with more video memory will be in the high end 15 and 17?
     
  17. thundersteele macrumors 68030

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    The 650m is perfectly fine for the MBP. It's a true Kepler GPU, not a rebranded 5XX series GPU like the 670M and 675M GPUs.

    Unfortunately the 650M has a TDP of 45W (according to wikipedia). This is actually more than the MBP can handle, I think the 640M is more likely at this point, but they might also down clock the 650M.
     
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    the 650m is an underclocked 660m, just overclock and you have a 660m!
     
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    3DMark Vantage:

    Radeon HD 6750M: 4,545
    Radeon HD 6770M: 4,899
    GeForce GT650M: 7,753

    3DMark 06:

    Radeon HD 6750M: 8,843
    Radeon HD 6770M: 10,234
    GeForce GT650M: 13,218

    3DMark 05:

    Radeon HD 6750M: 15,010
    Radeon HD 6770M: 15,484
    GeForce GT650M: 19,909

    PCMark Vantage Gaming:

    Radeon HD 6750M: 6,240
    Radeon HD 6770M: 8,571
    GeForce GT650M: 15,872

    Battlefield 3 (High):

    Radeon HD 6750M: 20 FPS
    Radeon HD 6770M: 22 FPS
    GeForce GT650M: 32 FPS

    Crysis 2 (High):

    Radeon HD 6750M: 37 FPS
    Radeon HD 6770M: 40 FPS
    GeForce GT650M: 61 FPS

    Call of Duty : Black Ops (High):

    Radeon HD 6750M: 53 FPS
    Radeon HD 6770M: 54 FPS
    GeForce GT650M: 96 FPS

    Starcraft 2 (High):

    Radeon HD 6750M: 33 FPS
    Radeon HD 6770M: 46 FPS
    GeForce GT650M: 64 FPS

    The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (High):

    Radeon HD 6750M: 25 FPS
    Radeon HD 6770M: 30 FPS
    GeForce GT650M: 42 FPS

    If I was able to Google all this, you should too.
     
  20. mikeo007 macrumors 65816

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    Lol, I posted all this I'm the 4th post of the thread and people ignore it. They'd rather complain than research.
     
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    But... I thought we were all ramping up for the 7XXX series? Isn't the 6770 and 6790 the cards that are in the latest generation? Yes.

    Honestly, you all are completely missing the point of having a more major upgrade in the graphics department. No one wants last generations graphics card that is a "30%" improvement. For those of us who are expecting this computer to last us a bit longer, you'd think we could see something more substantial and with AMD releasing their latest technology, Apple should be taking advantage of it, or something up to par with it.

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    Great. I think I'll Google a comparison against this generations newest mobile cards rather than last year's...
     
  22. mikeo007 macrumors 65816

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    Er...the 650m is less than 2 months old. The comparison is showing that (as expected) it's significantly faster than last generation's options.
     
  23. thundersteele macrumors 68030

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    30% is a lot. Nvidias new Kepler CPU has killed most of the AMD competition in benchmarks. The 650 is brand new! This GPU would seem like a good choice.

    I think you missed the point.
     

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