Running Firefox 33.1.1 on G5

Discussion in 'PowerPC Macs' started by bunnspecial, Nov 20, 2014.

  1. bunnspecial macrumors 603

    bunnspecial

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    I thought you folks might find this interesting, even though it's fairly impractical.

    I recently picked up a copy of VirtualPC 7 for my work G5, primarily to allow me to run some windows programs that I need(such as Originplot). I bought a copy of VirtualPC that included Windows XP Professional for $12 including shipping on Ebay.

    After installing it, I thought that I would at least install some current, still maintained browsers even though I have no intention of actually using them.

    Below is a screen shot running Firfox 31.1.1 in Windows XP on my Dual Core G5.

    Unfortunately, the limitations of VirtualPC make everything very slow. It's actually fine for the fairly simple programs I want to run, but a modern web browser is a bit much. VirtualPC will only allow me to allocate 512mb of RAM to Windows, and I think that allowing more might speed things up.

    In any case, here it is. As I said, it's not really practical, but is at least possible.
     

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  2. 556fmjoe macrumors 65816

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    Interesting. I routinely use Firefox 33 on my PowerBook when I need Javascript and it isn't too terrible on most websites, considering its massive codebase and the fact that it isn't optimized at all, but I don't use it as much as Netsurf or Dillo. I've had to do a lot of poking around about:config to get it performing acceptably. Javascript performance in 33 is about twice as fast as Firefox 29, 30, and 31 . I'm not sure what changed but it was a dramatic difference.

    I haven't made the leap to using it full time, but FF 33 is decent enough that I think I could. The main thing keeping me back is the fact that I need to block so much Javascript that I might as well be using Dillo, which loads pages instantaneously.
     
  3. bse5150 macrumors 6502

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    Dillo is terrible at rendering pages in my experience. I don't see how anyone can actually use it.
     
  4. 556fmjoe macrumors 65816

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    It's definitely terrible with some websites, especially the Javascript laden ones. I keep Netsurf around for those, or use Firefox if I need the Javascript support. If I'm just browsing a mostly text based site or Macrumors, Dillo does fine and is noticeably faster than Netsurf, even though Netsurf is very fast.
     
  5. Imixmuan macrumors 6502

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    Links2 is way better than Dillo at just about everything, I've even downloaded webvideo in Links2 recently and played in back in VLC. I know you are running OpenBSD but in Puppy and other tux's there are a bunch of useful browsers that have no analog in OS X. Palemoon (a fairly newish Firefox derivative) Qupzilla, Slimboat, Maxthon, Midori and Xombrero to name a few. I am also partial to the barebones webkit browsers like luakit, surf and dwb.

    Its embarrassing, sometimes, how many lightweight browsers exist on other UNIX based platforms. I'd port them to OS X but...I suck at code. Like, bad.
     
  6. 556fmjoe macrumors 65816

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    I might give Midori another try on the PowerBook. It would be a much faster alternative to Firefox if I need Javascript, which is usually just for logging in through captive web portals. I like it a lot, but it had a lot of stability issues on PowerPC last time I tried it. Works great on my MBP though.
     
  7. roadbloc macrumors G3

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    Might seem a bit of an obvious question, but why not just use TenFourFox? Are there any benefits to using FF in VirtualPC?
     
  8. bunnspecial thread starter macrumors 603

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    The answer is "to do it."

    If you look at the dock, you'll see that I actually have Leopard Webkit(my main PPC browser) open, and the TenFourFox icon(which I use a lot also) right next to it.

    As I said, the virtual machine is to run some specific Windows-only programs that don't have a Mac equivalent. There really is no practical use to web browsing in the VM. Remember that VirtualPC actually has to emulate an x86 processor, so there's a lot of overhead with that, and the limited RAM allocation within the VM(512mb) doesn't help either. Programs like Firefox are slow in VirtualPC.

    So, again, there's no practical reason-I just did it to see that it could be done.
     

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