ryzen based macbook ?

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  1. nephron8 macrumors regular

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    hello,
    any chance of apple using amd ryzen for macbook of any lineage?
    considering all security loopholes in intel chips and apple themself accepting 40% loss of performance in latest vulnerability .

    what you think ?
     
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    It seems more likely that they would stick with Intel for the time being as the rumor mill is showing them developing their own CPUs for use in their hardware in the possible near future.
     
  3. nephron8 thread starter macrumors regular

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    I agree they are ramping up.pretty fast with their A series chips reaching core i5 performance but wont thay require rewritingnwhole mac os to arm architecture and what would they do for professional apps like adobe and all?

    isnt it more better to adopt ryzen and zen architecture .I would love to see threadripper based mac pro and ryzen based macbook line .
     
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    "Love to see it" and "likelihood of it happening" are two completely different things though. We would also be ignorant to think that Apple hasn't developed prototypes of devices that use a variety of hardware components for in-house testing and research purposes, and that probably includes AMD based Macs. They've probably researched this subject and developed a roadmap for years now to figure out what the best long term solutions would be for them. It's practically all but certain they want to use their own components and hardware across the board with near complete vertical integration being their goal.
     
  5. nephron8 thread starter macrumors regular

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    I am worried about all intel.fracas and doubt I would ever purchase intel processor based system.
    what should be our way out to stay in apple ecosystem without intel?
     
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  7. frou macrumors 6502

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    Transitioning to AMD platform (not just the processor, but ancillary chipsets too) is clearly not worth the upheaval, given that the goal in sight is to transition to in-house stuff.
     
  8. leman macrumors G3

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    Not until AMD supports Thunderbolt3/USB4.
     
  9. maflynn Moderator

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    I would consider it more likely that Apple will arm (<-- see what I did there :) )there laptops with their Ax based CPUs then AMD. I'm not knocking AMD at this point, they have some fantastic processors, but I think they have a desire to use their own CPUs and chipsets
     
  10. iMacDragon macrumors 68000

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    macOS is already written for Arm almost certainly, considering the kernel etc is shared with iOS, and that they had Intel version of macOS running since beginning secretly too.
     
  11. Basic75 macrumors 6502

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    What would be interesting for laptops, but will never happen, is an AMD custom processor with Apple or AMD Navi GPU, and then a few Ryzen 3 cores on one chiplet, and a few A13 cores on another one.
     
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    Back in the day when apple was on PPC, they had a version of OS X (as that's what it was called back then), compiled for intel. I suspect Apple has been doing that with the current versions of macOS. As for apps, you're correct, apps will have to be updated with varying levels of updates to make it compatible for ARM. For some, it may be a simple recompile, for others, that have a lot of legacy code, like Photoshop and Office, its a bigger endeavor.
     
  13. nephron8 thread starter macrumors regular

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    what I found online is people are running ryzen 7 and even threadripper based system so some code is in place.
    for ARM macbook,project marzipan may reveal some secrete hidden facts.

    I am avoiding buying new macbook or any laptop due to intel and its monthly new security leaks and more worried by fact that they tried to bribe researchers to keep mum on latest vulnerability .

    shows their business policy and enforces my opinion on their dirty practices .
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    This I think is major reason.
    intel wont license amd with thunderbolt and optic parts .
     
  14. leman macrumors G3

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    Thunderbolt3 has been made royalty-free and its specification is available. So AMD is welcome to implement it any time they want. Not to mention that they will have to do it soon, since Thunderbolt is merged into USB.
     
  15. maflynn Moderator

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    To be sure the news is not great regarding MDS but right now, the only alternative is AMD. I have no idea who offers AMD based laptops and what features they may or may not have.
     
  16. nephron8, May 22, 2019
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    Lenovo put up some Thinkpad with ryzen. I guess x395 series but I hate to touch windows.
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    I guess my pro 10.5 inch has to do secure work like banking and all.
     
  17. nephron8 thread starter macrumors regular

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    at least apple A series processors aee not having those vulnerability like MDS and all.
     

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