S0 Questions

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by rugmankc, Mar 24, 2018.

  1. rugmankc macrumors 68000

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    My son just gave me an S0 Stainless Steel watch. Runs real nice for first generation. OS4. He had a grey nylon sport loop on it. Soft and I barely notice the watch is on.

    Wore it for an hour or so to set it up and get the health complications I wanted on watch face. Cardiogram, Activity and Workout.

    If I remember correctly I can't join the Stanford Study with the S0. What does anyone know about the UCSF eHeart Study that Cardiogram wants you to join. Worthwhile? Does it provide feedback yet, like Stanford, if problems encountered?

    Also, after taking it off a slight ring is seen on my wrist from watch back. A depression I guess. Watch didn't seem tight. I haven't wore watches for years. Common, or a symptom of the AW in Stainless Steel. To wear everyday would seem like a cosmetic issue, at least, if not wearing it out in public for certain occasions.

    Any very in depth video on using Cardiogram.

    Some very basic questions, I know. But, I have researched a lot. Bits of info here and there. Maybe it just takes time to figure the Apps out.

    I am trialing the watch to see if I want the S3 or S4 coming out.


    Thanks for any feedback--
     
  2. CNebs macrumors member

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    Impression is from the base where the heart rate monitor is housed. Common, not an issue.

    The heart study has certain requirements to join, and data is sent to the study group. The app on the phone only shows how many data points have been sent and the number of days in the study. Now you will receive a notification if there is a heart rhythm event.
     
  3. rugmankc, Mar 24, 2018
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    Thanks

    Continuing to read, I think the one that provides feedback is the Apple Heart Study App using Stanford. The one you get thru Cardiogram and from Univ of Calif San Francisco, eHeart, doesn't seem to give any feedback.

    I can't use the Stanford one on the S0--
     
  4. rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Pretty much answered my original questions. Trying the Sleep++ app tonight.
     
  5. Beards macrumors 6502a

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    Try ‘Autosleep’. It has a ton of features, very accurate and you don’t need to install anything on the Watch.
    Simply launch the app on the phone and it will automatically look for your watch.
     
  6. rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Thanks Beards

    That’s one I was gonna try. Wanted to trial watch for awhile before buying apps. Sleep++ did well. Battery went from 98 to 18 percent in 7hrs 22 minutes. Assume S3 watch will be better on battery life.
     
  7. Beards macrumors 6502a

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    No problem.... and ref the battery usage:- With Autosleep you won't get any hit on the battery because there is no app on the watch draining the battery. On average I lose around 10% overnight but that's due to the other apps working in the background.
    PS I'm running Autosleep on a Series 0 Stainless Steel which I have had since it was initially released.
     
  8. rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Thanks Again

    Will see how battery does tonight with no Sleep app running.
     
  9. rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Can you safely charge AW with an iPad charger. I find charging off my rMBP very slow.

    Haven't timed it with my base iPhones wall charger yet.
     
  10. Beards macrumors 6502a

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    Absolutely.. The Watch will only take the power it requires. I've regularly used my 29W charger for my iPad Pro 12.9" to charge the Watch.
     
  11. rugmankc, Mar 26, 2018
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    I guess AW S0 doesn't support Elevated Heart Rate notification.

    I have no "Heart Rate" option on AW
     
  12. Beards macrumors 6502a

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    Yes, unfortunately Apple did not add the Elevated Heart Rate for the Series 0. You can still monitor heart rate though, only not elevated. There are many apps for this but I find Apple’s Heart Rate is good enough. It not only shows your current rate but also your last activity and recovery, all with graphs.
     
  13. rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Thanks Again,

    I was reading some varied answers to that question. But, came to the same conclusion.

    Am trying HeartWatch now. Lots of data--
     
  14. rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Question on S0 battery life.

    I put it on at 7:29am today (100%) and at 1:40pm it was 19%

    Yesterday it went from 11:30am till 7pm untill it was at 19%

    Yesterday I played with it a fair amount while walking etc.

    Today very little.

    I do have 4 health apps on it. Activity, Cardiogram, Health, and yesterday added Heart Watch.

    Perhaps they are the problem.

    I know this is 1st generation and would hope for much better on the 3 or 4 if I buy one.

    Otherwise enjoying it----


    Thanks
     
  15. Beards macrumors 6502a

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    The biggest battery killer on the watch is actually using the screen and apps. That on its own can drain the battery quiet heavily.
    The next killer would be Activities. Doing an activity by launching the app on the watch again has severe processor time and drains the battery significantly.
    Other than that, notifications etc bear little on the battery.
    I charge my watch first thing in the morning whilst having a shower then start my day with a full charge 100% battery.
    I will then wear it all day and probably lose around 40%. I'll then nip to the gym, do an hour workout and lose another 25 to 30%.
    By the time I get home in the evening I have around 20% left.
    At that point I'll put it back on charge until bedtime then wear it again for the nights sleep fully charged at 100%.

    If I were you I would look at removing your apps one by one to see which is killing your battery so.
     
  16. rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    I will uninstall Heart Watch it is the latest app I put on---Thanks
     
  17. Beards macrumors 6502a

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    No problem. I'd just use the built in Heart Rate app. It draws little power in use.
    I have it as one of the compilations which allows me to access it with just a tap on the little icon.
    I can then see not just my heart rate but a graph of when it was high.
     
  18. rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    I was thinking the same. Health and Activity seem to do what most of us need. Cardiogram I like.

    I do get what I call false spikes of heart rate. Only a handful of times a day. Heart rate is fairly consistent during workouts. But, on occasion, and even if not working out, it can jump up over 120 and sometimes over 150. I am on heart meds that keep the rate low. Even on the treadmill it rarely goes over 100. So, a spike over 120 is not the norm. I have read this issue other places. Maybe a faulty reading or some certain movement with the arm. Not sure.
     
  19. Beards macrumors 6502a

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    Of topic but I'm 65 and work out hard every day.
    I consider myself fit and believe my heart is still very strong, probably because I was military for 25 years and have always looked after my body.
    Having said that I too often spike well over 150 during workouts, sometimes as high as 200 but it's the recovery that counts. I can go from 180 to 65 in around 20 seconds.
    The time to concern yourself with a spike is only if you don't do anything. Granted even a kiss for my wife can still make my heart spike but under normal use it should stay at a moderate continuous pace.
    One thing to be aware of though is to keep the watch close to your skin. If it is either too tight or lose you will get an irregular heart rate from the watch.
     
  20. rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    67 and 24 years active duty

    Pre 40 was my heavy workout/running years. At 40, first of two heart attacks. So, not as active on the intensive workout level.

    With my actual heart condition, guess the spikes could be real. But, I doubt it.

    See Cardio in May will address it there. They can always have me do a monitor.


    Thanks
     
  21. Beards macrumors 6502a

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    Respect and I'm a Brit.
     
  22. rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Thanks to you too--


    I will continue to trial the watch. As I mentioned, it is my sons. He bought it when they first came out. Just sitting in a drawer.
     
  23. Neo999955 macrumors member

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    I still wear my S0 Apple Watch every day. I don't really have any third party apps running on it anymore except when I use a rock climbing app during boulder sessions. My watch these days really can't make it a day on a full charge. I have to keep it in theatre mode all day, which is super frustrating. But makes sense for a device I've used every day for three years now and have recharged probably over 900 times.
     
  24. rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Thanks Neo

    I thought age might be a factor. Son used it a lot.

    Pretty sure I am seeing better numbers on the S3. And, they should be.

    I can keep this as long as I like. May wait to see what S4 offers new.
     

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