S2 straps on S4 watch?

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  1. jamin00 macrumors 6502a

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    I’m guessing not but Will the Milanese loop from my series 2 42mm fit the series 4 44mm or are they not compatible?
     
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    Yes. I went from a 42mm Series 1 (which has the same external specifications as the Series 2) to a 44mm Series 4 and all of the bands that I was using with my first Watch have been working without any issues with the new Watch.
     
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    Oh sweet. That’s a pleasant surprise. I have quite a few Apple straps and non Apple straps so it’s good to know they will fit. Thanks for confirming.

    Just got a text 5 mins ago that my series 4 is being delivered tomorrow as only ordered yesterday so pretty chuffed.
     
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    I just hope Apple continues to make bands from previous models compatible with future models. Heck, some of the posters have more money in bands that the cost of a watch:) I think I'm getting close myself only because my Gen. 1 bands work with my Gen. 4.
     
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    I, and many others, would be quite upset if they ever make them incompatible.

    And I'm only at 28 bands or so.
     
  8. jazz1 macrumors 68000

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    You are our inspiration!

    I've got a weird project in mind reference a watch band, watch case combo I purchased for my previous 42mm watch. It was from from brand called Lunatik. The band is so nice, but it is too wide at the anchor points (in order to accommodate the case). I'm thinking about taking it apart, and getting someone that works leather to modify it to fit my 44mm watch. I purchased some aftermarket hardware to mount the band.

    I'm sure this is going to cost more to customize/modify than a new band. Now who is the watch band Lunatik/Lunatic ;)
     
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    Sounds like a cool project! I've never done that, but I think there's some posts on here about changing up hardware etc so someone must have. Let us know how it works out!

    Inspiration??? lol ;)
     
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    https://www.amazon.com/LUNATIK-Aluminum-Leather-Strap-Apple/dp/B015Y5KPXC

    I think they make Gen. 3 cases/bands. But the brown Gen 1 is mine. I think you can see why I would like to convert the band to Gen 4 if possible. Maybe it will be too expensive.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I'm not sure that can be updated, now that I understand better.

    Straps/bands work between the different Series watches, but I'm don't think a case will?
     
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    No, the case won't work. I'm just hoping the band, which is wider than the standard attachment point hardware can be tailored down to fit. If it is too expensive to customize the band (only) I'll find a home for the whole rig.
     
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    I think they will make them incompatible at some point. Look what Apple did with the connections to iPhones and iPads over the years!
     
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    I think the chances of that happening any time in the foreseeable future are vanishingly small. Apple started with the 30-pin dock connector on iPhones and iPads, and switched to Lightning 9 years later. Lightning has been the standard for the past 7 years, and is still the current standard for iPhones and iPads (save for the latest iPad Pros that use USB-C, for greater interoperability).

    When you say, "Look what Apple did with the connections to iPhones and iPads over the years", you make it sound like there have been many changes and they've happened frequently. Yet there's been one change (well, call it one and a half, perhaps). So, I'm looking, as you asked, and I don't see the thing that you're holding up as an example.

    Apple went from 30-pin to Lightning because rapidly evolving technology had outstripped the ability of the 30-pin connector to adapt. The watch band connector interface is mechanical, not electronic. That field isn't changing nearly as fast. Wrists are still wrists, and watches are still little boxes full of parts (whether those parts are mechanical or electronic has little bearing on the mechanics of attaching a strap and wearing a watch). The watch itself can change substantially and still use the same straps, if the engineers that designed the connector put some thought into precisely this, and I believe that Apple did.

    Changing the connector without a really good reason - some very important unmet need that couldn't be worked around - would needlessly anger a whole lot of loyal customers, who are currently buying lots of very profitable watchbands. It's not going to happen for a long time.
     
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    That was driven by changes in technology. With watch bands, they have a strong incentive to make them compatible for as long as possible, as this probability is a factor in any decision to purchase a fairly expensive band.
     
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    As others have noted, they have no real incentive to do so because keeping them compatible across generations encourages people to keep buying bands, knowing that years down the road they will still be able to use them with a new generation watch.
     
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    I hope you are right.
    --- Post Merged, Jun 1, 2019 ---
    Ouch! Sorry I hit a nerve, lol! I take it you work for Apple?
     
  18. CarlJ macrumors 68030

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    No, I do not. You stated an opinion and backed it up with an extremely misleading assertion ("Look what Apple did with the connections to iPhones and iPads over the years!"). I simply explained why the actual details of what you offered as a backing argument actually run counter to the opinion you were trying to support.
     
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    Lol!
     

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