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I recently picked up a Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra to possibly replace my Android-sidekick Pixel 9 Pro.

Here are my initial thoughts about it from using it for a week.

Build quality

Tied 1st: S25U & 16PM
2nd: P9P

The redesign of S25 Ultra with completely flat sides and display is a winner for me. It feels very good in the hand gone are the issues with gaps between display and frame. iPhone is possibly one notch better in weight distribution but on the other hand Samsung weighs less.

Pixel is by no means a badly built phone but it just does not compete with the other two. The shiny sides picks up micro scratches more easily and I very much prefer the titanium frame over the aluminum.


Display

1st: S25U
2nd: 16PM
3rd: P9P

iPhone and Samsung basically has the same panel and both look absolutely stunning in terms of color accuracy and light output. The one thing that puts Samsung in the lead is the anti-reflective display. It is such a huge difference when using the phone outdoors or in brightly lit rooms. A real game changer. S24 Ultra had the same coating but I was not at all happy with this display. It had a grainy look and some rainbow effects when tilting the phone - issues that are completely gone with S25 Ultra.

iOS does seem more consistent when it comes to applying the right color calibration based on the app that is used. Games look very vivid while photos look accurate. 16PM is still most accurate, but S25U wins in every scenario where there is light.

Pixel really does not come close to either S25U or 16PM. It just feels a bit bland and less sharp.


Audio

1st: 16PM
2nd: S25U
3rd: P9P

S25U has noticeably better sound from the internal speakers than last years 24U. Still, the iPhone is a clear winner here with a fuller and more natural sound. Both S25U and P9P sounds tinny in comparison and slightly distorted at higher volumes.

Battery

1st: 16PM
2nd: S25U
3rd: P9P

Both S25U and 16PM can be used for a full day without charging with around 9h screen-on-time and plenty of photography. Pixel dies by 9pm with the same usage. 16PM is still more reliable in terms of battery usage, especially when doing plenty photography where S25U sometimes drains the battery faster. Also, 16PM has super quick notifications and does not seem to do quite as heavy "battery optimization" as the Androids but still maintains the best battery life.

Software

Tied 1st: 16PM, S25U and P9P

This is really a question of preference, nothing else.

16PM: iOS is the most refined operating system for mobile phones with an incredible attention to detail. The way it works with other Apple products is second to none. However, despite Apples attempts to make it more customizable and open, it is still nowhere near Android in terms of personalization.

S25U: Latest OneUI is more refined than ever and feels very "iOS"-like in the design language (just look at the Control Center). It is by far the most fun phone to use of the three and it is loaded with features - some of them are useful and some are not. You can basically make your phone look and operate just as you want without limitations. For me personally, this is not how I use my phone. I care less about how the operating system looks and it can be a bit stressful to have so many options. If you get started with customization it will surely consume lots of time that maybe could be spent on something else (I am not judging here...). However DeX is a cool and unique feature that turns the phone into a computer. S-pen can be useful to do quick notes or draw something that comes up in your mind. To be honest, I don't use the pen that much but it might be very useful to some.

P9P: The AI king. Google has done a much better job than Samsung to integrate AI more seamlessly in the operating system. The Pixel software itself is not that much fun but feels more professional than OneUI and iOS. Less playful, more business-like. You could also call it a bit boring and bland. It is also less customizable than OneUI unless you install a different launcher. It is the perfect choice for the Android purist that does not want any bloatware and want to use Android like the creator imagined it.

Side note: Apps on iOS overall feels a lot more refined and less buggy. It also seems like iOS is getting updates to apps quicker than Android. iOS, despite being more "locked down" than Android, has the best developer APIs that makes it easy to create smooth and high performing apps with advanced features. Android apps just feels a bit "older" and less fresh.


Performance

Tied 1st: 16PM and S25U
2nd (far behind): P9P

For the first time ever, a non Apple SoC is on the top of the performance benchmarks. This is pretty huge. The new qualcomm chip in S25U is a true beast. Comparing to Tensor on the P9P, it is a night and day difference. You will not only notice this in demanding apps like games or Lightroom - it is obvious from the first second you are using the phones. S25U is just a lot smoother and quicker than P9P in everything you do. Also, it never gets hot like the P9P. In games, S25U completely kills the P9P with high frame rates and less heat.

iPhones have always been my favorite phones when it comes to performance. This year though, 16PM feels slightly less smooth than last years 15PM. S25U is the most smooth Android phone I have used to date. When comparing them, they perform at the same level. I will give a small edge to 16PM for better game performance and quicker camera processing. It does seem like Apple still have some advantages from creating both the software and hardware. They can make a perfect match.


Camera

1st: 16PM
Tied 2nd: S25U and P9P

Cameras are very personal and taste will differ here. I prefer 16PM by a pretty big margin for the following reasons:
  • The best OIS technology (Optical Image Stabilization) of any smartphone out right now. It makes a huge difference, especially at 5x tele. I can shoot 2-3 stops longer exposure on the iPhone with the same motion blur as P9P or S25U.
  • Almost no periscope artifacts on 5x tele
  • The most open camera APIs. Third party apps can use the same features and sensor output as the stock camera app.
  • Excellent RAW support without any processing at all (Regular RAW, not ProRAW)
  • Very quick shutter. Images look exactly like the viewfinder when you pressed the button, even at 48MP
  • Very reliable. Images turns out as you expect them even in the most demanding scenes
There are a few areas where S25U and P9P outperform 16PM camera system.
  • S25U has one more optical focal length (3x between 1x and 5x) which will improve images taken between 3x and 5x
  • P9P has the most powerful astrophotography mode of any mobile phone camera
  • S25U and P9P has high resolution (50MP) on Tele
Conclusion

It is hard to crown a winner because it really depends on what needs you have. If you want the best overall performing Android phone - get the S25U. There are phones that are better in certain areas (like camera) but they will not have the same high "lowest point" as S25U. It is just an easy phone to recommend because it isn't really bad at anything. S25U can also be purchased with good deals (like trade-in).

If you want the most bang for the buck Android phone and you don't need the very best performance - get a good deal on a Pixel 9 Pro. In Sweden, where I live, the carriers and retailers have more or less permanent offers on this phone. It usually sells around 700-800 EUR. This is the best midrange phone you can get and if you like the stock Android experience, you will not be unhappy.

16PM is by far the phone with the highest average score when all aspects are considered - it has a fantastic camera, top class performance and a fantastic display. If iOS is an option, you can't go wrong with this one.
 
Update: 2 weeks later

I decided to return the phone within the 14 days "no-questions-asked"-return window here in Sweden for a full refund. And here is why:

  1. The anti reflective screen is fantastic but it comes with some issues. There is no screen protector that covers the entire display and retains the anti reflective properties. The only one I found is the OEM Samsung "film" that is absolutely garbage. It feels like plastic and not like glass and has a very ugly cutout for the selfie camera where dust is collected all the time. The display is also very sensitive to scratches. Although I am super careful, I already got a tiny micro scratch on the display. I just cannot use such an expensive investment without a screen protector and when you lose the anti reflective screen you also lose the biggest wow-factor with this phone.
  2. Software. It is feature packed for sure but I have discovered that I do not like the fragmented experience it gives. There are just too many "Samsung" features that does the same thing as Stock Android features already do. One example is Samsung Pass. Although I have done everything to set the Google Passwords feature to be the one to use, Samsung Pass still overrides it in some apps and you have no idea where your passwords are stored. Same goes for backups. It feels like two systems migrated into one, in a very bad way. User experience is just not close to what is offered with an iPhone or Pixel.
  3. Notifications. This is not something exclusive for S25 Ultra but rather an issue with all Android phones. They are not reliable. Since I always carry my iPhone together with my Android side-kick phone, I can see the difference. Messages can be delayed up to 5 minutes from apps like Facebook Messenger, Telegram or Whats App. It also gets worse with time when different battery saving algorithms are kicking in. I absolutely hate this. Unfortunately my Pixel 9 Pro behaves in the same way so this is one area where iOS/iPhone is clearly superior.
  4. Animations. Although I set the animation speed to .5x in Developer settings, some animations are just way too slow. Especially swipe to go home.
  5. Scrolling. This is probably something I could get used to if I used the S25 Ultra exclusively for some time. But in almost all apps I find the scrolling to be inconsistent. It also stutters/jitters a lot. This makes me want to pick up my iPhone to do any kind of reading or browsing because it is super smooth. I don't know if it is a bad "variable refresh rate" issue or just apps being badly optimised on Android. Pixel does have the same issue.
  6. Eye strain. For some reason, I had problems looking at the S25 Ultra screen for too long. I don't know if it is a PWM issue or something else but I had frequent headaches and my eyes felt sore. After swapping back to 16 Pro Max, the issues went away immediately.
  7. Gaming performance. This was a real bummer because I had high expectations when I saw the benchmarks of the new SoC. Games just don't run as smoothly as on iOS. Although I have set everything to 120hz and disabled any 60hz limitation, some games feel like they run in 60hz although the "show framerate overlay" indicates 120.
  8. I was initially happy with the camera but after testing it in tougher scenarios it is just miles behind the 16 Pro Max. Third party RAW support is completely bugged and even worse is that neither of the stock camera apps can produce a real RAW file that is not demosaicked. Night performance is horrible. I just never felt that it was fun to do photography with S25 Ultra. Samsung fans will claim that this gets better with updates but that is nothing I can assume to be true - I want the phone to perform now, not in 6 months.
  9. OIS. The tech used by Apple is much better than Samsung. This is very apparent on 5x but also on 1x. I can shoot handheld single-frame RAWs at much longer shutter speed with the iPhone without blur which makes a big difference for low light photography without tripod.
  10. Second hand value. It seems that the S25 Ultra is already selling at sub-1000EUR here in Sweden which is remarkable for a phone that is listed at close to 2000EUR new.
I will miss the anti reflective screen but in reality when there are no screen protectors that can retain this feature, it just doesn't matter that much.

I will miss the ergonomics - 16 Pro Max does feel heavier.

I also appreciate the playful software packed with features but if I have to choose between that and a cohesive user experience I will go for the latter. This is just not well polished and feels a bit cheap in comparison to iOS.
 
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And another reflection

I remember when Samsung released the information that their phones would get 7 years of updates. My thought was "That is great but claiming something and delivering are two different things".

It seems I had right in some sense. Just look at the delayed release of A15.

Also my S25 Ultra had december security patch when I shipped it back in mid-February (and no new software to be found when doing a manual search for updates). I understand that they want to solve as many issues as possible in one big update after such a big release but still there are many question marks regarding Samsung and their software support.

iPhone or Pixel are probably better choices for people who are concerned about longevity.
 
If Samsung still hasn’t fixed the infamous shutter lag which I see some people reported it is little bit better but still old problem, its camera is still the worst out of these three since it doesn’t work if you take photos of moving objects like kid or pet.
 
Samsung stock price is around half of its peak few years ago, it was already famous for spending resource on marketing but not hardware or software quality, look like it gets worse when the company is going downhill.
 
Samsung stock price is around half of its peak few years ago, it was already famous for spending resource on marketing but not hardware or software quality, look like it gets worse when the company is going downhill.

Meanwhile Apple stock price is closed to its historical high, number doesn’t lie.
 
If Samsung still hasn’t fixed the infamous shutter lag which I see some people reported it is little bit better but still old problem, its camera is still the worst out of these three since it doesn’t work if you take photos of moving objects like kid or pet.

16 Pro Max is by far best on shutter lag - no lag at all even at 48MP. Photo looks exactly like the shutter when you press the button.

Pixel 9 Pro is ok in 12MP mode but very laggy in 50MP.

S25 Ultra is by far the most inconsistent of the three. Sometimes it shoots the photo immediately without lag, sometimes it has almost a second lag. Very unreliable in this aspect. Doesn't seem to matter which resolution that is used.
 
If I was considering an Android for a new phone I genuinely think the OnePlus 13 sinks the lot of them on price vs performance.

I'm an iOS guy because there are too many exclusive apps that will never get released on Android I use every day (funny how this always gets forgotten in the comparisons...) but older OnePlus devices I used were all brilliant. I can put up with 'slightly less camera performance' for a saving of £300, better battery life and a less generic design.
 
If I was considering an Android for a new phone I genuinely think the OnePlus 13 sinks the lot of them on price vs performance.

I'm an iOS guy because there are too many exclusive apps that will never get released on Android I use every day (funny how this always gets forgotten in the comparisons...) but older OnePlus devices I used were all brilliant. I can put up with 'slightly less camera performance' for a saving of £300, better battery life and a less generic design.
Couldn't agree more with you there.
 
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Update: 2 weeks later

I decided to return the phone within the 14 days "no-questions-asked"-return window here in Sweden for a full refund. And here is why:

  1. The anti reflective screen is fantastic but it comes with some issues. There is no screen protector that covers the entire display and retains the anti reflective properties. The only one I found is the OEM Samsung "film" that is absolutely garbage. It feels like plastic and not like glass and has a very ugly cutout for the selfie camera where dust is collected all the time. The display is also very sensitive to scratches. Although I am super careful, I already got a tiny micro scratch on the display. I just cannot use such an expensive investment without a screen protector and when you lose the anti reflective screen you also lose the biggest wow-factor with this phone.
  2. Software. It is feature packed for sure but I have discovered that I do not like the fragmented experience it gives. There are just too many "Samsung" features that does the same thing as Stock Android features already do. One example is Samsung Pass. Although I have done everything to set the Google Passwords feature to be the one to use, Samsung Pass still overrides it in some apps and you have no idea where your passwords are stored. Same goes for backups. It feels like two systems migrated into one, in a very bad way. User experience is just not close to what is offered with an iPhone or Pixel.
  3. Notifications. This is not something exclusive for S25 Ultra but rather an issue with all Android phones. They are not reliable. Since I always carry my iPhone together with my Android side-kick phone, I can see the difference. Messages can be delayed up to 5 minutes from apps like Facebook Messenger, Telegram or Whats App. It also gets worse with time when different battery saving algorithms are kicking in. I absolutely hate this. Unfortunately my Pixel 9 Pro behaves in the same way so this is one area where iOS/iPhone is clearly superior.
  4. Animations. Although I set the animation speed to .5x in Developer settings, some animations are just way too slow. Especially swipe to go home.
  5. Scrolling. This is probably something I could get used to if I used the S25 Ultra exclusively for some time. But in almost all apps I find the scrolling to be inconsistent. It also stutters/jitters a lot. This makes me want to pick up my iPhone to do any kind of reading or browsing because it is super smooth. I don't know if it is a bad "variable refresh rate" issue or just apps being badly optimised on Android. Pixel does have the same issue.
  6. Eye strain. For some reason, I had problems looking at the S25 Ultra screen for too long. I don't know if it is a PWM issue or something else but I had frequent headaches and my eyes felt sore. After swapping back to 16 Pro Max, the issues went away immediately.
  7. Gaming performance. This was a real bummer because I had high expectations when I saw the benchmarks of the new SoC. Games just don't run as smoothly as on iOS. Although I have set everything to 120hz and disabled any 60hz limitation, some games feel like they run in 60hz although the "show framerate overlay" indicates 120.
  8. I was initially happy with the camera but after testing it in tougher scenarios it is just miles behind the 16 Pro Max. Third party RAW support is completely bugged and even worse is that neither of the stock camera apps can produce a real RAW file that is not demosaicked. Night performance is horrible. I just never felt that it was fun to do photography with S25 Ultra. Samsung fans will claim that this gets better with updates but that is nothing I can assume to be true - I want the phone to perform now, not in 6 months.
  9. OIS. The tech used by Apple is much better than Samsung. This is very apparent on 5x but also on 1x. I can shoot handheld single-frame RAWs at much longer shutter speed with the iPhone without blur which makes a big difference for low light photography without tripod.
  10. Second hand value. It seems that the S25 Ultra is already selling at sub-1000EUR here in Sweden which is remarkable for a phone that is listed at close to 2000EUR new.
I will miss the anti reflective screen but in reality when there are no screen protectors that can retain this feature, it just doesn't matter that much.

I will miss the ergonomics - 16 Pro Max does feel heavier.

I also appreciate the playful software packed with features but if I have to choose between that and a cohesive user experience I will go for the latter. This is just not well polished and feels a bit cheap in comparison to iOS.
This was a really good read. Thanks.
I found myself agreeing with some of your points too. I think what I have found is that there isn't such a thing as a perfect device. Not for me, anyway.
And every single one of the "big 3 flagships" each has their list of pros and cons. If I could amalgamate bits from each one I for sure would!
 
16 Pro Max is by far best on shutter lag - no lag at all even at 48MP. Photo looks exactly like the shutter when you press the button.

Pixel 9 Pro is ok in 12MP mode but very laggy in 50MP.

S25 Ultra is by far the most inconsistent of the three. Sometimes it shoots the photo immediately without lag, sometimes it has almost a second lag. Very unreliable in this aspect. Doesn't seem to matter which resolution that is used.

This is the biggest reason I can only buy iPhone. All YouTubers just talk about photos of non moving objects.
 
It's worth noting that the S25 U has been great for me for moving objects (my dog). Even in lower light. So there are definitely improvements this time round.
This was the biggest issue I had with Samsung devices in the past and nice to see it's improved greatly.
 
It's worth noting that the S25 U has been great for me for moving objects (my dog). Even in lower light. So there are definitely improvements this time round.
This was the biggest issue I had with Samsung devices in the past and nice to see it's improved greatly.
Agree it has been much better. Not quite as good as my 16PM or 9 Pro XL but it has been much improved overall.
 
Agree it has been much better. Not quite as good as my 16PM or 9 Pro XL but it has been much improved overall.
Yeah I still think the camera is a step behind those two but it's not the mess it has been in older Samsung's.
 
Yeah I still think the camera is a step behind those two but it's not the mess it has been in older Samsung's.
In most situations I feel it is ahead of them but photos with motion in less than ideal lighting it lags behind a bit. Hopefully they can fine tune it in software updates but it is good to see that Samsung finally is trying to improve this.
 
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Gaming performance. This was a real bummer because I had high expectations when I saw the benchmarks of the new SoC. Games just don't run as smoothly as on iOS. Although I have set everything to 120hz and disabled any 60hz limitation, some games feel like they run in 60hz although the "show framerate overlay" indicates 120.
Refresh rate and frame rate are two different things. 60 fps at 60 hz will look smoother than 60 fps at 120 hz. If the game cannot consistently hit 120 fps, setting the refresh rate back down to 60 hz will make it feel smoother.
 
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Update: 2 weeks later

I decided to return the phone within the 14 days "no-questions-asked"-return window here in Sweden for a full refund. And here is why:

  1. The anti reflective screen is fantastic but it comes with some issues. There is no screen protector that covers the entire display and retains the anti reflective properties. The only one I found is the OEM Samsung "film" that is absolutely garbage. It feels like plastic and not like glass and has a very ugly cutout for the selfie camera where dust is collected all the time. The display is also very sensitive to scratches. Although I am super careful, I already got a tiny micro scratch on the display. I just cannot use such an expensive investment without a screen protector and when you lose the anti reflective screen you also lose the biggest wow-factor with this phone.
  2. Software. It is feature packed for sure but I have discovered that I do not like the fragmented experience it gives. There are just too many "Samsung" features that does the same thing as Stock Android features already do. One example is Samsung Pass. Although I have done everything to set the Google Passwords feature to be the one to use, Samsung Pass still overrides it in some apps and you have no idea where your passwords are stored. Same goes for backups. It feels like two systems migrated into one, in a very bad way. User experience is just not close to what is offered with an iPhone or Pixel.
  3. Notifications. This is not something exclusive for S25 Ultra but rather an issue with all Android phones. They are not reliable. Since I always carry my iPhone together with my Android side-kick phone, I can see the difference. Messages can be delayed up to 5 minutes from apps like Facebook Messenger, Telegram or Whats App. It also gets worse with time when different battery saving algorithms are kicking in. I absolutely hate this. Unfortunately my Pixel 9 Pro behaves in the same way so this is one area where iOS/iPhone is clearly superior.
  4. Animations. Although I set the animation speed to .5x in Developer settings, some animations are just way too slow. Especially swipe to go home.
  5. Scrolling. This is probably something I could get used to if I used the S25 Ultra exclusively for some time. But in almost all apps I find the scrolling to be inconsistent. It also stutters/jitters a lot. This makes me want to pick up my iPhone to do any kind of reading or browsing because it is super smooth. I don't know if it is a bad "variable refresh rate" issue or just apps being badly optimised on Android. Pixel does have the same issue.
  6. Eye strain. For some reason, I had problems looking at the S25 Ultra screen for too long. I don't know if it is a PWM issue or something else but I had frequent headaches and my eyes felt sore. After swapping back to 16 Pro Max, the issues went away immediately.
  7. Gaming performance. This was a real bummer because I had high expectations when I saw the benchmarks of the new SoC. Games just don't run as smoothly as on iOS. Although I have set everything to 120hz and disabled any 60hz limitation, some games feel like they run in 60hz although the "show framerate overlay" indicates 120.
  8. I was initially happy with the camera but after testing it in tougher scenarios it is just miles behind the 16 Pro Max. Third party RAW support is completely bugged and even worse is that neither of the stock camera apps can produce a real RAW file that is not demosaicked. Night performance is horrible. I just never felt that it was fun to do photography with S25 Ultra. Samsung fans will claim that this gets better with updates but that is nothing I can assume to be true - I want the phone to perform now, not in 6 months.
  9. OIS. The tech used by Apple is much better than Samsung. This is very apparent on 5x but also on 1x. I can shoot handheld single-frame RAWs at much longer shutter speed with the iPhone without blur which makes a big difference for low light photography without tripod.
  10. Second hand value. It seems that the S25 Ultra is already selling at sub-1000EUR here in Sweden which is remarkable for a phone that is listed at close to 2000EUR new.
I will miss the anti reflective screen but in reality when there are no screen protectors that can retain this feature, it just doesn't matter that much.

I will miss the ergonomics - 16 Pro Max does feel heavier.

I also appreciate the playful software packed with features but if I have to choose between that and a cohesive user experience I will go for the latter. This is just not well polished and feels a bit cheap in comparison to iOS.
Here are my observations thus far on the points you made:

1) Agree. I'd prefer to not use a non-glass film. The best screen protector I've found is FloLabs antigare tempered glass protector. It isn't cheap and doesn't really differ much in terms of glare from regular glass protectors, but it does an OK job, covers the whole screen, and is simple to install. Any "matte" screen protectors all have graininess to them that I don't find acceptable.

2) I use Bitwarden and have not experienced any issues with passwords. You need to tinker with a few accessibility settings. I've had the phone for 9 days and not once have I even seen Samsung Pass pop up.

3) I don't use social media at all, but regular messages, BlueBubbles (iMessage), emails from Gmail and Outlook, I haven't experienced any delays so far. I know it is an issue because I experienced it before on other phones, but so far no issues here for me.

4) No issues for the most part. Home Up still needs work, as I use the "grid" option to view all open apps. On many occasions when I swipe up from bottom to view / switch open apps, it'll soft crash to the home screen and I'll need to swipe up again.

5) Also no issues with scrolling or stuttering. I previously had the Pixel 8 and 9 Pro XL, the S25U is smooth as butter compared to those. Pixel 9 vastly improved over the 8 but still stutter issues pop up now and then. I ultimately didn't use Smart Switch, decided to factory reset and set up new, so maybe that helps.

6) Luckily I don't have PWM sensitivity, but Samsung, Google, Apple all need to follow what the Chinese brands are doing.

7) I don't game on my phone present day. On earlier Androids I remember I needed to set the refresh rate to 60hz because anything higher caused stuttering.

8) Apparently the February update contains a camera update, time will tell.

9) Can't relate as I don't use advanced camera features all too often.

10) Yeah, they can be had for under $1000 on Swappa here in the U.S. Hopefully Samsung will offer nice trade in values toward the S26 next year.

There are definitely optimization issues with the S25U. I think excessive CPU usage is one of them as I get really bad battery drain. I currently have the phone running in "light" performance mode as it really functions no differently and allegedly increases battery life. We'll see how it fares today.

Hopefully everything will be ironed out over the coming months, Samsung was on a roll with monthly updates last year. This will leave a sour taste in many people's mouths, especially those who have S24 series, they are getting screwed.
 
I use both daily and this is a very biased set of reviews here. People need to learn to admit when there are better equipment out there. Each tool has its use and not everyone needs to use both, but not sure why they need to come up with garbage reviews that are skewed to their opinions.....
 
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I use both daily and this is a very biased set of reviews here. People need to learn to admit when there are better equipment out there. Each tool has its use and not everyone needs to use both, but not sure why they need to come up with garbage reviews that are skewed to their opinions.....

I am confused here - is it my review that you call "garbage"?

If so - do you care to elaborate why you consider it garbage?
 
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If Samsung still hasn’t fixed the infamous shutter lag which I see some people reported it is little bit better but still old problem, its camera is still the worst out of these three since it doesn’t work if you take photos of moving objects like kid or pet.
I have an S25 ultra and a 16 pro max. Unfortunately Samsung still has shutter lag. Though not as bad as previous phones.
 
No idea when and how Samsung can fix the shutter lag, better just keep using old iphone pro.
The S25 ultra is not a bad phone at all. It's actually my daily right now. I am enjoying it 10x more than I did the 24 ultra.
 
I use both daily and this is a very biased set of reviews here. People need to learn to admit when there are better equipment out there. Each tool has its use and not everyone needs to use both, but not sure why they need to come up with garbage reviews that are skewed to their opinions.....

I am confused here - is it my review that you call "garbage"?

If so - do you care to elaborate why you consider it garbage?
I didn't write a review either, simply stated my observations = opinions. I didn't think I showed bias, I also use the S25U and 16PM, owned the Pixel 9 Pro XL before that. 🤷‍♂️
 
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