Sad. Really sad.

roland.g

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Bought a 15" MacBook Pro from Apple this week in store. Came with High Sierra pre-loaded.

2+ months after Mojave comes out and they are still selling stock with the old OS!!
 

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Given that Mojave just came out (and is going to have bugs), it's not a bad thing. I don't know specifically how Apple does it, but in the tech industry in general, people wait till a piece of software/hardware matures before it is adopted on a large scale. High Sierra is the latest "stable" OS at this point, so it makes sense to ship Macs with High Sierra.

Plus, the piece you bought may have been packaged and sealed before Mojave even came out.
 

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Bought a 15" MacBook Pro from Apple this week in store. Came with High Sierra pre-loaded.

2+ months after Mojave comes out and they are still selling stock with the old OS!!
A buddy of mine just purchased one of the Vega 20 models (against my advice, at least until further review hahaha) and it came with Mojave 10.14.1 installed. But maybe only the Vega models and BTO aren't still from existing stock?
 
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2+ months after Mojave comes out and they are still selling stock with the old OS!!
Why is that sad? I have a 2018 MBP and I'm on HS, in fact I'd rather have HS rather then Mojave. I've not been pleased with some of the issues I've heard and it doesn't really add much in terms of new features. The biggest selling point is a dark theme, if a new theme is the major update, then I'll pass.

If you're intent on wanting Mojave, then its an easy process to upgrade, so in both cases, its really a win-win and I'm not seeing how its sad
 

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Bought a 15" MacBook Pro from Apple this week in store. Came with High Sierra pre-loaded.

2+ months after Mojave comes out and they are still selling stock with the old OS!!
It's really sad, that you did not think your question through :oops:

Why would Apple unpack, hundreds of thousands, Macbooks, iMacs, iPhones, iPads to do an update, and repackage them ?
there is no company in the world who does that :rolleyes:
 

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Why is that sad? I have a 2018 MBP and I'm on HS, in fact I'd rather have HS rather then Mojave. I've not been pleased with some of the issues I've heard and it doesn't really add much in terms of new features. The biggest selling point is a dark theme, if a new theme is the major update, then I'll pass.

If you're intent on wanting Mojave, then its an easy process to upgrade, so in both cases, its really a win-win and I'm not seeing how its sad
Agreed. High Sierra is one of the most stable releases to date. I don't like the dark theme. I don't care for stacks or quick actions. Dynamic desktop? Kid stuff. I plan to keep High Sierra for the time being. From now on I'll just wait for the sequel of Mac OS upgrades.
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Bought a 15" MacBook Pro from Apple this week in store. Came with High Sierra pre-loaded.

2+ months after Mojave comes out and they are still selling stock with the old OS!!
Your computer was manufactured prior to the release date of Mojave. The Vega models as well as any other machines produced after October will have Mojave installed. That's how it's always been.
 

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Dude, wtf are you talking about? Do you think that Apple is going to open up all their stock, load Mojave, then reseal them and package them back up as new? I see a lot of complaints here regarding Apple. Many of them justified, this one is just ridiculous.
 
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Not sad, Vega models were recently packaged and sealed with the latest and greatest that’s why I bought one. The sad part is I have to wait for it to ship but smile :)
 

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OP wrote:
"Bought a 15" MacBook Pro from Apple this week in store. Came with High Sierra pre-loaded.
2+ months after Mojave comes out and they are still selling stock with the old OS!!"


I don't have any problems with this at all.
High Sierra is a "mature" version of the OS. Just about all the bugs have been worked out.

Mojave, on the other hand, still seems like "a work in progress".

I'd rather have HS on mine.
But... that's just me.
 

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Dude, wtf are you talking about? Do you think that Apple is going to open up all their stock, load Mojave, then reseal them and package them back up at noon? I see a lot of complaints here regarding Apple. Many of them justified, this one is just ridiculous.
Agreed, especially when you consider that they give customers the latest OS's for free.
 
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If the worry is that you didn’t get a “freshly baked” unit, why worry? Other than the Vega models nothing has changed between the one you picked up and one that would be built today for that same spec, other than Mojave, which you can upgrade to at any time and at no additional cost.
 

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Given that Mojave just came out (and is going to have bugs), it's not a bad thing. I don't know specifically how Apple does it, but in the tech industry in general, people wait till a piece of software/hardware matures before it is adopted on a large scale. High Sierra is the latest "stable" OS at this point, so it makes sense to ship Macs with High Sierra.

Plus, the piece you bought may have been packaged and sealed before Mojave even came out.
Any machine built after Mojave was released has it preloaded. You missed the point.

Then it was probably manufactured before Mojave was released. They're not going to take it out the box, install Mojave and re-seal it!
No of course they aren’t going change what was loaded. The point is that 2 months later there is still stock out there with the old build. They are not turning over stock very quickly on the MacBook Pro.

It's really sad, that you did not think your question through :oops:

Why would Apple unpack, hundreds of thousands, Macbooks, iMacs, iPhones, iPads to do an update, and repackage them ?
there is no company in the world who does that :rolleyes:
Right
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The point was that they still have stock of machines produced that long ago. Apple isn’t turning their inventory at a good pace.

Dude, wtf are you talking about? Do you think that Apple is going to open up all their stock, load Mojave, then reseal them and package them back up at noon? I see a lot of complaints here regarding Apple. Many of them justified, this one is just ridiculous.
Again. You missed the point.
 

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Dude, wtf are you talking about? Do you think that Apple is going to open up all their stock, load Mojave, then reseal them and package them back up at noon? I see a lot of complaints here regarding Apple. Many of them justified, this one is just ridiculous.
Many deep ridiculous complaints here like tiny scratch, dust, and dirty Apple logo lol I’m OCD too but the world is not.
 
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Any machine built after Mojave was released has it preloaded. You missed the point.



No of course they aren’t going change what was loaded. The point is that 2 months later there is still stock out there with the old build. They are not turning over stock very quickly on the MacBook Pro.



Right
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The point was that they still have stock of machines produced that long ago. Apple isn’t turning their inventory at a good pace.



Again. You missed the point.
Straight
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Apple makes a shi-t-load of devices in 1 go, they know pretty well how much devices they sell, and have extra for exchanges.
this is the cheapest way of manufacturing.
 

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Congrats....you get the choice of staying on High Sierra or upgrading to Mojave. Anyone who got a Vega 20 is forced to use the slower of the two.
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The point was that they still have stock of machines produced that long ago. Apple isn’t turning their inventory at a good pace.
**** really? You mean the top of the line model not targeted at the general consumer that costs thousands of dollars was sitting in stock for a couple months? Who woulda thunk it.
 
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Given that Mojave just came out (and is going to have bugs), it's not a bad thing. I don't know specifically how Apple does it, but in the tech industry in general, people wait till a piece of software/hardware matures before it is adopted on a large scale. High Sierra is the latest "stable" OS at this point, so it makes sense to ship Macs with High Sierra.

Plus, the piece you bought may have been packaged and sealed before Mojave even came out.
This x3. I went through two rMBAs that came with Mojave installed and not functioning correctly. Bought a tb rMBP with an early October production date and was a little surprised, but very pleased, to see that it had HS installed. That's totally fine with me. Mojave has some great updates...Apple can send me a text when it runs properly.
 
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I think the OP's point really is just a bit of astonishment at the fact that the inventory of rMBPs isn't turning over very fast (at least at this store). It certainly provides some anecdotal evidence that they're not selling well. For those of us who are ambivalent about Apple's new machines, this is bittersweet -- hopefully Apple will listen and make something better with the next iteration.
 

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A few years ago I bought a Mac Pro in 2012 from the apple store. It came with Lion which was more than a year old at that point. Macs don't turn over as much as you think especially in store. People opt to order those online.
 
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I think the OP's point really is just a bit of astonishment at the fact that the inventory of rMBPs isn't turning over very fast (at least at this store). It certainly provides some anecdotal evidence that they're not selling well. For those of us who are ambivalent about Apple's new machines, this is bittersweet -- hopefully Apple will listen and make something better with the next iteration.
Define not selling well? There are MANY different configurations/SKUs for the 15" available. To expect each one to be sold out constantly is just silly.
 

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I think the OP's point really is just a bit of astonishment at the fact that the inventory of rMBPs isn't turning over very fast (at least at this store). It certainly provides some anecdotal evidence that they're not selling well. For those of us who are ambivalent about Apple's new machines, this is bittersweet -- hopefully Apple will listen and make something better with the next iteration.
Thanks. Somehow everyone else turned it into a debate over which OS they like better or think is better.

By that rationale they would argue that each year when new iPhones launch in September that they should come with the last and most stable of the prior iOS and not the .0 release of the new iOS. You know, for stability’s sake. Though oftentimes the new models have hardware features that support new features in the brand new iOS.

Every machine manufactured after the release of Mojave has it preinstalled. They never go back and update produced stock. To point that out is ridiculous. But a bunch of posts did that. They also don’t continue producing machines with the old OS, waiting for the x.1 or x.2 or x.0.1 release to be more stable. I’m sure there are those that feel they should.

I’m running 3 machines not including the new MBP, all different (MBA, iMac, Mini), and all on Mojave. Is system wide Dark Mode a bust, yes for the most part, but that is an aesthetic opinion. Is Mojave stable, seems to be.
 

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Thanks. Somehow everyone else turned it into a debate over which OS they like better or think is better.

By that rationale they would argue that each year when new iPhones launch in September that they should come with the last and most stable of the prior iOS and not the .0 release of the new iOS. You know, for stability’s sake. Though oftentimes the new models have hardware features that support new features in the brand new iOS.

Every machine manufactured after the release of Mojave has it preinstalled. They never go back and update produced stock. To point that out is ridiculous. But a bunch of posts did that. They also don’t continue producing machines with the old OS, waiting for the x.1 or x.2 or x.0.1 release to be more stable. I’m sure there are those that feel they should.

I’m running 3 machines not including the new MBP, all different (MBA, iMac, Mini), and all on Mojave. Is system wide Dark Mode a bust, yes for the most part, but that is an aesthetic opinion. Is Mojave stable, seems to be.
So, you now turn to ranting about the .0 not being good for release ?
Why don't you come down from soaring in dreamland, and read up on how it is done in the real world, and how many beta's preceed the .0
there is none, and never shall be, an operating system, that is without flaws.:cool:
 
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Bought a 15" MacBook Pro from Apple this week in store. Came with High Sierra pre-loaded.

2+ months after Mojave comes out and they are still selling stock with the old OS!!
Dell stills sells computers with Windows 7 installed as an "Option".
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Many deep ridiculous complaints here like tiny scratch, dust, and dirty Apple logo lol I’m OCD too but the world is not.
Wouldn't be surprised if some return their Macs because the latest OS is not installed.