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mozumder

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Been stuck with a 17" MacBook Pro from 2011. Yes, that far back. Mostly Python coding (in Xcode even)

I skipped the 2012-2015 model - Apple got rid of the 17" but I wanted a big screen, and then I was going to upgrade the 2016-2019 models, but the first thing I did when they were released was to try them out at the Apple store. I immediately noticed several models at the store had keyboard problems, and knew that something bad was happening. So I waited for them to fix it. Eventually, they finally fixed it last year, along with giving us a sweet 16" model, but they still used a 2015 14nm Skylake-based cores! F-that!

So this year comes around, maybe there's going to be high-end Tiger Lake 45W core, but it looks like the next high-power core is going to be Alder Lake at the end of next year. And given the timeline of Apple transitioning to Arm, Alder Lake is likely never going to materialize.

SO now I'm thinking I'll have to stick with this year's 16", with a craptacular CPU core from 2015. WTF Intel! And I tend to get maxed-out laptops, so this version is going to be 64G with 8TB SSD & Radeon 5600M. But then ARM transition is coming... do I wait for that? Or do I skip a laptop and work on Mac Mini ARM? I would use Postgres database locally, not sure if that's Mac ARM ready yet. My 17" is crashing a lot now, so I do have to replace it. Would have been nice if we had a MacBook Pro 16" ARM right about now...
 
Not really.

intel's 10nm process sucks (I say that as a 10nm MacBook Air owner), and they can barely make 4 core parts that run at slow clocks, that barely keep up with the previous generation parts on 14nm.

The only improvement is the integrated GPU.

The 16" MacBook Pro has a discrete GPU; ergo the integrated graphics improvement is largely irrelevant.

It would be pointless upgrade.

Tiger lake? Don't believe the hype. Based on the 10nm Xeon parts they have announced (1.x Ghz base clocks!) it will be largely crap as well.

Apple have done the right thing here by moving on.
 
I am thrilled they are moving to arm but will still need Windows on Paralell, thus I purchase MBP 16”. It will take few years for pro apps to mature and seems you will be able to keep 16 for at least good 4 years before switching to Apple Silicon macbook when it matures.
 
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